US soliders cheating at promotion exams by downloading answers from the internet?

Question

as reported on CNN today - does this lower the military in your estimation?

Answer 1

Let's just say that you're not generally going to find people turning down Harvard to enter the military. I know there are some bright people who choose it as a career, and I don't mean to insult them, but, honestly, my image of their brainpower is not too good. Of course they're going to cheat on exams. They know they couldn't pass them any other way. Did you think they were going to somehow be more honest and trustworthy than non-military people? That's a bit naive, I'm sad to say.
And, rotor, why do you think only the liberal college students cheat? I work at a college: half these kids don't know enough about politics to know if they're liberal or not. They're whatever their parents are, just like with their religion. Cheating has to do with how honest a person is, and cheaters come in all colors, races, religions and politcal persuasions.
As I said, gib, I know there are intelligent people like yourself who choose a military career, but, and this is my opinion, I think that's the exception rather than the rule. I see it as a choice for someone who perhaps didn't have as many other options.

Answer 2

Do you have a link to this source?

There have been cheating scandals at the academies in the past (a higher profile than other universities).

I have no idea how someone can cheat on a Navy advancement exam. The tests change each cycle, are sealed before the test is taken, and locked in a vault prior to the test. Much of the test is rate specific, so it would do me no good as an MM to get answers from another rate. And when the test is given, nothing can be brought into the room for the test, so it would be difficult to have a crib sheet.

I would not trust the test answers on the Internet. When I was an undergrad, the ROTC kept old copies of a test in military history. However, the professor changed the test quite often and students having the old test answers ended up failing the exam. They learned quickly not to trust the old crib sheets.

Answer 3

It's interesting that the tests are changed every test cycle, and the actual test packets are kept in vaults until test time. As usual it is a case of the media making a mountain out of a mole hill. The Navy Tests are alomst the same way, people buy what are called northstar study guides that have about 1000 possible answers on advancement exams. The guide doesn't guarantee that you'll advance, just that out of a 100 question test these are the subject matter that might be on the test. Now the test for the Navy advancement are job sepcific, and are not the same every test cycle. There are even 5 versions of 200 question test given at the test time. If you have a study guide made of 1000 answers you still can possibly get all the answers right on the exam. The worst advancement exam I took for the Navy I relied on a Northstar study guide, never again.

Answer 4

Its not fair to the people who study their a** off for months on end. Like the Navy you can pass the test but they only advance so many people. They need to get their head out of their a** and do it right like others. I still support the military and it doesn't really change my view but they are just looking for an easy way out and they should prosecute-serves em right.

Answer 5

Just like members of the general population, there are some in the military that will cheat on tests just as there are asome who will rape or murder. The military isnt seperate from the real world, it is made up of people from the real world. The difference is that in the military you will be punished for wrong doing.

Answer 6

I am actually taking Correspondence Courses right now, I am doing my own work, sometimes I will ask my husband for help or talk about my exam when I have finished, but reality is alot of Soldiers do it, I dont think it will stop anytime soon.. for me i could Cheat , but why?
I think maybe one of the reasons people have been cheating is because of the points, sad reality but true, knows of a few Soldiers who cheated on Pt scores.. it happens.. but I am not one of them nor do I plan to be..everything I plan on doing is because I busted my tail to get it done on my own.

Soldier & Armywife
All about choices .

Answer 7

It's got nothing to do with the Military as an organization. Just like an educational institution like Yale, or Penn, they are excellent institutions, but still there are people who cheat. The malice is on the individuals not the entire institution.

Answer 8

Not at all. It lowers the individual not the institution. Look at all the college athletes who cheat and are "pushed" through because they can play a game. Does that in anyway change your preception on colleges?

Answer 9

VIVA USA'
is a troll who has used many names on here such as:

Nuns Cant Fly, Angel of Deth, (he cant spell either)

he claims to have been trained at the US School of the Americas as a death squad, (how 1 person can equate to a squad??)

He also claims to be in prison in the Argentine and in France.

He is obviously the end product of a close family breeding experiment where brother and sister are encouraged to have sex because they are so pig ugly even the family dog wont play with them.

Answer 10

Why would a soldier cheat on one of those test, it doesn't take much studying to pass one . I have to disagree with bookish. The majority of us are smart military people.