WHAT SAY YOU ALL? - Evolutionist, Do you honestly believes you are descendants from the Apes?

Question

In an uncomplimentary sense, evolution would have you exist as a mere link in an endless chain, with bigger and more glorious apes yet to rise from the seed of your seed of your seed, ad infinitum.
In this context, the best life you can hope for here is to live again, and a little better, through them, as expressed by the aphorism: "Your children are your future." But if we shall one day be they, who are we now?
We can have no special human identity as the "image and likeness of God'" for the spirit of ancient monkeys is perpetuating itself in us. How preposterous, utterly ridiculous and if you don't mind me saying outrightly stupid !

Do you still believe in it, after all that's been said ?
What say you all?

Answer 1

This is a joke, right?

Answer 2

Yep, it does still seem like a quite reasonable theory.

I can't easily imagine all the changes that occur in DNA over millions of years, but it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility that yes, through survival of the fittest, the genes of apes at one point branched off into what's become the human genome.

Simplistic example, say you have a dozen chimps. One's a super genius, several are very bright, most of the others are of average intelligence, and the remainder are mentally retarded.

It's a hard winter, and the apes must forage for food to survive. The smart apes might have an easier time of finding food than the lesser apes; therefore, there's a greater chance they'll survive the winter. This means that their genetic material will more likely survive to propagate to their descendants. The lesser apes and their lesser characteristics may be selected out of the gene pool, but the other apes' genes will continue to develop.

Of course this is under ideal circumstances, you would certainly lose some members of the community to random events like murder, disease, natural disaster, lightning, etc. But over millions of years, again, who's to say that over such a long period of time the genes of humanity could NOT condense into what they are today?

Answer 3

Well, you seem to be making an argument that evolution doesn't exist because the prospect of it is unpalatable to you. You don't like the thought of it, so you declare it cannot be. Well, that is no argument against it. Palatable or not, evolution either happens or it doesn't.

Also, it is not "bad" to be a link in an endless chain. In fact, isn't it obvious that we are, in fact, just such links? You are your parents' child, they are their parents' children, and so on and so forth back through the centuries and millennia. And as the generations go on, you will be a link in that long chain.

You are not identical to your parents - you are different from them in size, shape, hair color, temperament, intelligence level and a million other different ways. And they were different than their parents, and so on and so forth.

Those small changes over time is evolution.

The question becomes did small changes over time develop into large changes when one compares today to millions of years ago?

Think about this - 65 million years ago there were no humans, but there were other animals. Over the millions of years, some animals went extinct and others came into existence. At some point about 35,000 years ago or so, humans that were physiologically like us came into existence. That is, we have discovered fossils of them that date from about that time. There are NO fossils of them known from before about 35,000 years ago, yet the world had life for billions of years before.

This doesn't mean that God did not create us, or that we are not in His image. He could have placed humans on earth himself, or he could have simply structured the world so that 35,000 years ago modern humans would arise through evolution.

There is nothing intrinsically wrong with that, and no reason God couldn't have done that.

Answer 4

that's what i find so wonderful about evolution that we are part of a process, a link in a timeless chain. evolution does not have an aim, it is not forging onward and upward, so one day my descendants may not be bigger more glorious apes. in the far distant future and the dichotomy between our big brains and selfishness fail us;some may be aquatic furry fish eaters, some may resemble fruit bats, who knows.
as for the image of god thing, well how many times have people said, "no we resemble god in the spirit not in the body". isn't god's spirit perfect, omnipotent, omnipresent, in fact omnieverything. our supposed spirit does not seem to resemble that very much. we no more resemble that than a bacteria resembles an elephant. to be free to be what we are because we are is far more glorious and dignified than being the puppets and pets of some deity. i'd rather think my ancestors were tick picking, dung flinging apes that be the plaything of some god.

Answer 5

You not understand evolution at all. Must underwstand it before you can really refute it. Human and ape have common ancestors. No gods exist, men create gods in their image. Believe is wrong word, I know evolution true, much scientific evidence for it, no evidence at all for naive creation myths. Creation myths preposterous, ridiculous, stupid really. If you not mind my say so. Again, not just believe, knowing is much better. You believe wrongly, I know correctly.

Answer 6

Just because your poorly understood idea of what evolution is offends your arrogant sensibilities doesn't mean it's not true. Evolution is not a progression toward perfection, what comes before is not necessarily lesser, what comes after is not necessarily more refined. Evolution is merely a description of genetic change and adaptation to the environment over time.

Answer 7

You do realise that nobody believes any of this crap right?

Prominent Creation Scientist Em Ajineri and yourself should really get together, by the way. Maybe that way you could actually come up with some decent trolling posts, not this constant drivvle you keep spouting.

Answer 8

Yep, I believe we did not pop out of creation perfectly baked from the oven. Lots of evidence of evolution at work if you chose to look. It does not waive my right to believe in a creator, just that whacky fully-formed Homo Sapien idea. And you can believe whatever YOU want too.

Answer 9

I don't believe we are the direct descendants of Apes. We eventually became "Ape Like". I believe we came out of the water. We all start out there after all.

Answer 10

Actually, they don't. What they do believe is that amphibians evolved into mammals. It isn't by species, but by order. If you bothered to read the scientific texts, you would know which delusion they are under.

Answer 11

Well I'm kind of pointlessly hairy, and I kind of look a lot like them... and having the choice between that and a "magic man" having made me, I go with the monkeys any day.