Are the Army Rangers and Green Berets the same thing?
2007-12-16 23:56:49 · 5 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Military
"Green Berets" are NCOs and commisioned officers that have passed the Special Forces Assessment and Selection program and reclassified into an 18-series MOS upon completion of the Special Forces Qualification Course. They are generally assigned to one of the 5 active duty groups upon completion of training.
"Army Rangers" are members of the army assigned to the 75th Ranger Regiment either in headquarters or in one of the three Ranger BNs.
Many "Green Berets" are "Ranger Qualified" or "Ranger tabbed" but the focus and mission profile of Special Forces Groups and the 75th Ranger Regiment differ in rather extreme ways.
You would not be able to "try out" for Special Forces (attend Special Forces Assessment and Selection) until the Department of the Army put a call out for your year group--usually about three years after you are commisioned. You would then have to attend the 18A qualification course and presumedly would then be assigned to a group and get your year or two of team leadership.
If this is what you think you want to do, you might try knocking out Jump School and Ranger School (if this is an option)while you are still a Cadet. Also your branch selection will have some bearing on your chances of success--think Combat Arms--though I know at least one LTC who is both SF and Ranger Tabbed who came from the Chemical Corps
2007-12-17 01:32:51 · answer #1 · answered by G.I. Reaux 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Green Beret Officer
2016-11-16 06:40:26 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No one can be certain that ANYONE will graduate from Ranger or SF school. One may get selected, but there isn't any guarantee that people will make it.
They are 2 TOTALLY different schools.
After SFAS and the Q Course, there is still the specialty training to go through. It takes a LONG time to become an official Special Forces Soldier.
ROTC doesn't guarantee you anything in the Army except maybe taking a slot in Airborne School from someone that actually needs it. Like the Army needs more 5 jump chumps running around.
2007-12-17 00:35:00 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
No, Rangers and Special Forces are not the same and a Green Beret is a hat.
Once you become an O-1 2LT, it takes about 3-4 years to get to O-3 Captain. Once you are a Captain, you can apply for Special Forces. If you are selected, it will take 6-18 months to do the Special Forces training based on your regional specialty.
You can go to Ranger School as 2LT. Even if you go to the school, it doesn't mean you will be assigned to a Ranger Battalion.
2007-12-17 00:59:03 · answer #4 · answered by mnbvcxz52773 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No. It takes as long as going through selection and SF school. You can find those class lengths online.
2007-12-16 23:59:35 · answer #5 · answered by DOOM 7 · 0⤊ 3⤋
Since you will be attending ROTC that means that you will be an officer. Special Forces (commonly called the Green Berets) only accepts 1st LT'S who are promotable to Captain or Captains to attend the Special Forces Assessment and Selection course. This is a 3 week course at Camp Mckall, NC and has a selection rate of between 20%-35%. If you are selected for Special Forces(SF) training you will attend Army Airborne school (3 weeks at FT Benning, GA), and then attend the SF Qualification course( Q-Course) at Ft Bragg, NC and Camp Mackall,NC. The length of the Q-course depends on your SF specialty. Weapons Sargeants course is about 1year 3 months, Engineer Sargeant is about 1 year 6 months, Communications Sargeant is 1 year 8 months, and Medical Sargeant is 2 years. As an officer your Q-course would be about 1 year and 8 months long. It includes a LOT of training, but thats why Special Forces are special. A Q-course Officer student must learn the basics of Small Unit tactics, military leadership, the basics of SF weapons, Engineer, communications, and Medic Sargeants jobs, Intelligence, mission planning, reconasence, land navagation, wilderness survival, a foreign language, unconventional warfare, army supply system( some SF things are boring but necessary), power point presentations, interogation resistance, hand-to-hand combat, and many other things.
You see, becoming SF isnt like going to other schools in the Army. Once you graduate from the Q-course you will go to a Special Forces Group, there are 5 of them in the active duty Army and 2 in the National Guard. A new SF Officer can expect to spend some time working at the company or Battalion level Staff until he is evaluated and deemed ready to lead an A-team, ofcourse this usually means waiting until an A-team needs a new officer. Once getting onto an A-team he will be the leader of a 12 man SF team that is the "tip of the spear" for the US Army, capable of carying out many different Special Operations missions due to the vast amount of skills of the 12 men on the team. The team leader will have a Warant Officer as his XO ( second in charge) a Master Sargeant as the Team Sargeant ( the most experienced man on the A-team and someone that you will want to listen to), 2 SF Medical Sargeants, 2 SF Weapons Sargeants, 2 SF Engineer Sargeants, 2 SF Communications Sargeants, and a SF Intelligence and Operations Sargeant. The team leader only gets to stay on the A-team for 2-3 years before being moved to a Staff job at Batalion or Group HQ so make the most of your team time.
The other part of your question about are SF and Rangers the same? I will let you decide. I just explained what you must do to be Sf (a Green Beret). To become a Ranger you must graduate from Ranger school, a 64 day school that is very tough. With a 50%-65% graduate rate. You will learn basic Squad and Platoon level Infantry tactics, mountain climbing, survival, leadership, small boat operations, have to perform with very little sleep or food, and I have heard that Urban combat is now part of Ranger school but I cant confirm that.
After graduating from Ranger school you get to wear the ranger tab on the sleeve of your uniform and you return to your Army unit and continue to do whatever it was you did before going to Ranger school because there is a differnece between being a Ranger and being in the Rangers.
Basically Ranger school is a little over 2 months of very tough training that will make you a much better soldier and leader.
SF is a complete change in your life in the Army and what kind of work you will be doing for the rest of the time you are in the Army.
FYI- Once one makesit into SF, getting to go to Ranger School is as easy as simply asking for it.
2007-12-17 02:15:16 · answer #6 · answered by jimmy s 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋