Infant baptism?

Question

article 2270 of the roman catholic communion states:
"Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life."

roman catholics however teach that the sacrament of baptism is necessary for the soul to attain salvation. (the catholic practice of infant baptism - baptising an infant before she can consent to the sacrament - depends on this idea).

2/3 of conceptuses are shed at the first menses after intercourse has taken place.

if infants must be baptised, and the conceptus is a human being from the moment of conception, can someone give me a link to the roman catholic rite for baptising sanpro (or directly baptising the menses, whichever is the easier)?

Answer 1

Are we all not baptised with the water of life in the womb of our mother even from the time of our creation? There is so much truth in the Bible but to understand it you must understand society, psychology, mythology, and views from many different angles and perspectives. The Bible wasn't the work of one man, but the work of many translations from many cultures and religions. It's the ugly political nonsense which uses it for death means and persecution in which I have a never ending hate towards.

Answer 2

Infant baptism in the Catholic Church requires the presence of the infant, parents and godparents.

1 Peter 3:21 tells us that baptism saves us. Baptism washes away the stain of original sin, making the individual pure in the eyes of God, and places an indelible mark on the soul. This mark indicates that we belong to the Body of Christ. Colossians 2:11-12 tells us that baptism has replaced circumcision as the rite of initiation into God's family. Circumcision in the Old Testament was performed as a sign of the covenant between man and God at the age of 8 days (Genesis 17:12). Does God love infants and desire their salvation any less today than He did at the time of Abraham?

A conscious interaction does not have to take place between both parties in order for a personal relationship to exist. If it did, we would not have a personal relationship with our earthly family until several years after we were born. Babies, because they are God's children, have a very personal relationship with God. They may not have any concept of who God is, but this doesn't prevent God from caring for the child, protecting it, and sending His blessings upon it.

Infant baptism has been practiced since very early in the history of the Church. There are writings from the 2nd century which attest to this practice and the Bible itself refers to whole households which received baptism; no doubt including the infants therein (Acts 16:15; 18:8; 1 Corinthians 1:16). There is nothing in Holy Scripture which erects barriers to or forbids infant baptism.

Answer 3

I'll stick with the Calvinist answer to this. Baptism isn't some sort of "lucky charm" that gets you into heaven if you don't have it. Neither is it to be ignored, with faith being all you need to get into heaven. Catholics should know this, it's a covenant between God and his people. But it doesn't mean that man can usurp this covenant with his own rules for those not yet born in order to "cover them" so he can get what he wants.

Salvation involves predestination and what God wills -- and has willed from before the foundations of the earth, for that matter. He will bring his own into his arms whenever they die. They don't need baptism if it's impossible, just as they didn't need circumcision if it was impossible under the law. I believe this is what the prophets railed against the Israelites for in depending on circumcision so much for their salvation that they saw it as their free ticket to heaven -- nothing could be further from the truth!

Yes, infants must be baptized, but baptism does not have the power of erasing original sin. We are born with it, and we are marked of God in spite of it, not to remove it. The Lord takes to heaven whomever he wants, not whomever we want. We trust that he does the right thing because he is God. We do not tell him what to do through baptism or "baptizing sanpro," or getting baptized after the age of reason for that matter. Article 2270 is right, but your premise that baptism is necessary for the soul to attain salvation, is only partially right. The sacrament belongs to God, not man. And we follow the same covenant with a different administration recognizing who we are before the Lord.

Answer 4

This question is answered in the Catechism of the Holy Roman Catholic Church:

"As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of
God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let the children come to me, do not hinder them," allows us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism."]

The Lord be with you.

Answer 5

Infant baptism is pointless. It doesn't do anything if they have no idea they even exist yet.


The point of baptism is to wake you up from your sin, it's symbolic in a sense, but it does have an effect.


Splashing some water on a baby's head doesn't do a thing.

Answer 6

the reason the roman catholics want a child baptized even befor they can understand the sacrament is because they believe that everychild born into human flesh carries the original sin of adam and eve (eatting the forbidon fruit) and if the child were to die they didn't want this original sin to affect the childs annocents so that it can go straight to heaven. i think that is one of the answeres you were looking for

Answer 7

Infant baptism is not for the child - it's for the parents and makes no sense. Even Jesus wasn't baptized until he could "make the decision for himself. More and more churches are turning away from it.
In Evangelical circles - infants are "dedicated" to God and that's for the parents.

Answer 8

Infants shouldnt and dont have to be baptised. they dont have to until they understand what it means to be baptised . you cant make some one go to heaven. It is totally left up to them to choose to serve God You cant make someone serve God or participate in something they dont understand

Answer 9

its only a part baptisum, you mist be fully put under the creek or river for a proper one.