Is God a fact, probability or possiblilty? This Will Corner You Christians!?

Question

I wonder what you Christians conceive God of?

Do you feel God is as real as your mother or your five fingers on your hands?

Do you have the slightest of doubt that you might be mistaken or is there withour a shadow of a doubt that God is there?

If you are 100% certain that God is there as much as you know that you have five fingers on your hand then it is called "fact".

Is it hypocritical to say that you got faith that God is real when "faith" is only applied to the possibility and probability of something to be true.

All of you Christians would say that you are 100% certain that God exists thus saying that you got faith is contradicting your claims.

You wouldn't say that you got faith that you have five fingers because it is a fact.

If God is 100% real then it is a fact and not "faith".

So explain why you claim to have faith when you already know for a fact that God exists and how faith and fact can actually coexist.

Faith and fact can't coexist.

Burned!!

Answer 1

No doubt in my mind that God is as real as my mom or anything else. Is the air you breathe as real as your mom, or the love you feel as real as your fingers? What about the gravity that holds you to the Earth? I hope that you get the picture. If not, too bad.

Answer 2

1) A "fact" is not necessarily something that has been proven, or even *can* be proven. There are "unknown facts" and "known facts". God is a fact, even though his existence cannot be proven scientifically. It was a fact that, 4,000 years ago, the earth was spheroid. This fact is entirely independent of anyone's cognizance of it at that time.

2) Yes, God is *just* as real as my mother or my fingers. Indeed, he is more real, as my mother has passed away and my fingers will, eventually, rot into nothingness while God continues to exist.

3) My faith is secure, but I will say that occasional doubt is common among Christians. However, some things that people most firmly believe in (for example, a flat earth) are later discovered to be fallacious. Faith in some random thing, by itself, has little value. Faith in God has value. Faith in the existence of my fingers has much less. Certainly, "100% faith" does *not* make anything factual, or have anything to do with fact.

4) You clearly have non-standard definitions of both "fact" and "faith". Your claims, based upon your subjective definitions of these words, are wholly groundless.

Clearly, faith and fact co-exist. Faith has no effect on fact (except for the fact of the existence of that faith). Fact has no effect on faith, except that once a fact is know a person may elect to have faith in that fact. Your premises and your conclusion are wholly faulty and illogical.

Jim, http://www.jimpettis. com/wheel/

Answer 3

According to Webster's dictionary, a fact is "something that has actual existence" and faith is "a firm belief in something for which there is no proof".

Since I cannot prove or disprove that God exists, therefore, by definition, it cannot be a fact. However, I choose to believe that God exists, but that is based upon faith.

I can't think of anything that can be both a fact and faith at the same time.

I have read all of the previous postings. Seems like many people have different versions of what proof is. That is why I believe they are confusing faith with fact.

Answer 4

A "fact" is something that can be proven. OR something that more than one person agrees on that CAN'T be disproven.

So, with all this burning going on, I've got some bad news...
If you're going to attack a specific "faith", do so with your "facts" straight. AND....WHO CARES????
If you don't believe....that's great!....If they DO believe....that's great, too!

It's thought processes like this, that progress into superiority complexes, and make those fanatic idiots in the middle east look like they're not alone.

Leave it be. Faith and fact CAN coexist. I have faith that the Patriots will go undefeated....so far, that's a fact. Once a fact is disproven, people will tend to lose faith afterwards. I mean, look at poor Pluto. All that time teaching me that it was a FACT that Pluto was our 9th planet.....only to find out that it never should have been labeled a planet in the first place....sheeesh!!

Answer 5

Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. you have explained a Christians faith perfect yet you say burned. lol silly atheist God is as real as my hand he is as real as my mother, and I can feel his presence when i cry out to him, and I have faith in him. You have done nothing but better explain a true Christians faith. good job, now you should try it.

Answer 6

Faith exists in the absence of fact , fact exists regardless of faith , if a tree falls in a forest and nobody is there to hear it does it make a sound ???
What do you think is it a fact that it will make a sound or do you simply have faith that it did?

Answer 7

My friends used to scold me for switching from religion to religion. I've been searching for the TRUTH since young because I think I should find out why I'm here. Although I didn't get the answer I want after trying so many religions, I concluded that God exist for many reasons. I've witnessed walking on fire, bathing in boiling water, pushing someone without touching, incredible chinese words formation that should be beyond average human, etc and heard many voices.

I asked our creator for wisdom to know what is the truth. I can still remember the day, christians in my church prayed for my wisdom when I told them the reason why I don't want to be baptized. From that day, great wisdom arrived but my intelligence continue to decrease dramatically as usual. A taxi driver told me this, "Its difficult to believe in God because its only after you believe in him, he will allow you to see." For my case its quite fortunate that he allowed me to know him when I'm in doubt of him.

I have not heard of God punishing someone for not believing in him. But I witnessed the day my army friend who refused to burn hell notes and was disturbed by ghost that night. In science, energy cannot be created or destroyed, they transfer from one form to the other. In fact, we do exist. How? Who created the universe? We call the creator, God, though many of us have not seen him.

Science today cannot explain why you can move your fingers. Buddhism explain that emptiness and existence are both the same. Taoism can only explained up to one lump of energy which spilts into Yin and Yang.

I don't know who created God but I do call our creator God. If you take a look at different types of flowers, you will believe that there is a designer behind all these. Its harder to believe that the flowers just happen to look so beautiful. The creation of nature and living things is far beyond the intelligence required to build a city.

I didn't remember any Christians saying that he got faith that God exists. I can only remember hearing them saying we must have faith in God. For a person like me who have gone through the stage of questioning my own birth certificate, I tell you this, God, our creator exists. The most difficult part is, you need to believe in him first. I've heard from him and verified his words, so I know he is real. Now its your turn.

Answer 8

I would take a bullet before I would deny him. Is that sure enough for you?

--edit See, here is the deal, I know for a fact that he exists because I know him and he knows me. We have a relationship. This was a door that I walked through by faith. Once through the door however, I exist in the fact of the true and living Almighty God.

There simply is no seeing him through that door that requires faith. You cannot pass by reason. There is no logic to explain why the God of the Universe would be interested in puny humans.

Answer 9

Truth is a fact.

God is truth.

We believe in God through faith.

Therefore, if we believe in God, we believe in truth, and it is a fact that we know he exists.

See...I can do it too...it's all about redefining words so that you seem YOU know what you're talking about.

Basically for a Christian, fact and faith are synonymous in the religious definitions of the terms.

Answer 10

Wrong ! I know for a fact that God does exist but because people like you don't I have to claim it's faith and it is.

It's both fact by your definition and faith by biblical definition - belief in things hoped for and substances unseen.