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How pathetic can the Catholic Church be to ask people to give money to buy their way to heaven. How cheap and sleazy can a religion get. Even Cult leaders are more slick in their deceit than this.

2007-12-16 14:25:36 · 18 answers · asked by realchurchhistorian 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=indulgences

http://forums.christianity.com/Pope_Announces_New_Indulgence/m_2916020/mpage_1/tm.htm

2007-12-16 14:39:00 · update #1

Wigginsray - Who is the liar?

2007-12-16 14:39:32 · update #2

Trina - you are ignorant of the facts of unabridged Church History. You are repeating the propaganda prepared for you by Jesuit Priests. There is NO TRUTH in the claims that the Catholic Church is the original church or that it gave the world the Bible.

Do some independent study of unabridged sources, and you will be amazed at how much of the Catholic Church is built upon blatant lies.

2007-12-16 14:42:53 · update #3

18 answers

They apologized for selling indulgences, I believe. Not that it matters. Your Christ-God is a failure no matter who keeps shop.

2007-12-16 14:29:29 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 7

ok, in the beginning, Catholicism is the unique Christianity. Baptists would permit you comprehend in any different case, however the Catholic church has been there long earlier the Protestants got here to visit. So, that being reported, Catholicism, like Christianity, specializes interior the full Trinity, Jesus for salvation perception gadget. No distinctive, aside from what Protestants call "extra complex rituals" etc, inclusive of sacrements, communion, yet different than that its extremely no distinctive because it has the middle teachings of Christ in touch. Do Catholics use a distinctive bible? nicely they (tend to) use the Douay-Rheims, or all seventy six books of the canon bible, so definite they do use writings and scriptures that Protestants have ignored and deemed non-canon. And no, clergymen are basically there as clergy, no person worships the Pope or thinks clergymen are each little thing. they have faith in unfastened will and private religious family with God. it is coming from somebody who grew to become into raised Catholic and have kinfolk who're religious Catholics. they're going to permit you comprehend the comparable project (yet in all probability bypass into extra factor because of the fact that they nevertheless prepare the religion).

2016-10-01 23:33:38 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

When the Catholic church was established, and they created the Bible, there were many things that they institutionalized as a way of making money. They also did these things as a means of control. These are some of the very things that Martin Luther was so against. (This included weddings and indulgences, as well as many other things.)

I do not know what their stance is on these things now. But one thing is for sure... had it not been for the creation of Catholicism and the compilation of the Bible, none of you others, who hold steadfastly to the Bible, would have a Bible to cling to.

Edit:
Thumbs down... some people really hate the truth, don't they?

Edit:
For your information I have done independent research on the subject. I am not in the habit of taking one source as truth.

2007-12-16 14:36:22 · answer #3 · answered by Trina™ 6 · 1 4

Myths:

Myth 1: A person can buy his way out of hell with indulgences.


This charge is without foundation. Since indulgences remit only temporal penalties, they cannot remit the eternal penalty of hell. Once a person is in hell, no amount of indulgences will ever change that fact. The only way to avoid hell is by appealing to God’s eternal mercy while still alive. After death, one’s eternal fate is set (Heb. 9:27).


Myth 2: A person can buy indulgences for sins not yet committed.


The Church has always taught that indulgences do not apply to sins not yet committed. The Catholic Encyclopedia notes, "[An indulgence] is not a permission to commit sin, nor a pardon of future sin; neither could be granted by any power."


Myth 3: A person can "buy forgiveness" with indulgences.


The definition of indulgences presupposes that forgiveness has already taken place: "An indulgence is a remission before God of the temporal punishment due to sins whose guilt has already been forgiven" (Indulgentarium Doctrina 1, emphasis added). Indulgences in no way forgive sins. They deal only with punishments left after sins have been forgiven.


Myth 4: Indulgences were invented as a means for the Church to raise money.
Indulgences developed from reflection on the sacrament of reconciliation. They are a way of shortening the penance of sacramental discipline and were in use centuries before money-related problems appeared.



Myth 5: An indulgence will shorten your time in purgatory by a fixed number of days.


The number of days which used to be attached to indulgences were references to the period of penance one might undergo during life on earth. The Catholic Church does not claim to know anything about how long or short purgatory is in general, much less in a specific person’s case.


Myth 6: A person can buy indulgences.


The Council of Trent instituted severe reforms in the practice of granting indulgences, and, because of prior abuses, "in 1567 Pope Pius V canceled all grants of indulgences involving any fees or other financial transactions" (Catholic Encyclopedia). This act proved the Church’s seriousness about removing abuses from indulgences.


Myth 7: A person used to be able to buy indulgences.


One never could "buy" indulgences. The financial scandal surrounding indulgences, the scandal that gave Martin Luther an excuse for his heterodoxy, involved alms—indulgences in which the giving of alms to some charitable fund or foundation was used as the occasion to grant the indulgence. There was no outright selling of indulgences. The Catholic Encyclopedia states: "[I]t is easy to see how abuses crept in. Among the good works which might be encouraged by being made the condition of an indulgence, almsgiving would naturally hold a conspicuous place. . . . It is well to observe that in these purposes there is nothing essentially evil. To give money to God or to the poor is a praiseworthy act, and, when it is done from right motives, it will surely not go unrewarded."

2007-12-16 14:30:10 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3 4

did you know donkey's can fly?! honest i saw it in a movie called Shrek - it was great.

I am going to assume you are not a Christian for at the present time you are bearing false witness and blatantly lying. if you understood any of which you're babbling you would never have posted this. it only makes you look foolish in the eyes of those who know, study and can truly conprehend words that are written on a page.

2007-12-16 15:28:29 · answer #5 · answered by Marysia 7 · 0 1

Well, just think about their system of church government. They do not have a quality control department. Parishioners do not complain-they just accept it.
I would change the church from the top down-or leave it. Unfortunately the catholic does neither.

2007-12-16 14:32:04 · answer #6 · answered by Higgy Baby 7 · 1 2

Isn't almost everything about Catholicism the biggest insult to Jesus?

He died so that we can go before God without fear.
He is the only counselor who can stand between man and God and yet they have a million dead people, (some of whom, may have been real believers) that they pray to.

It would take the rest of the night to go into all the other blasphemous rituals they have.

2007-12-16 14:32:38 · answer #7 · answered by Gypsy Priest 4 · 3 2

It is my sad sad guess you have no idea what you are talking about. That kinda junk happened many hundreds of years ago. ..and not just in Catholic churches but in others as well. IF it happens now.. I agree with you that it is sad..but the Catholic church does not do that. Nor do the Episcopalians et al.

2007-12-16 14:32:05 · answer #8 · answered by BelieverinGod 5 · 2 2

We commit a sin if we dont condemn what led us to a sin.Commiting a sin is pardonable if we realize how to pay for it in the real way,so that God pardons you from it and allows you to proceed in life!

2007-12-16 14:35:32 · answer #9 · answered by Anil P 2 · 0 1

The Catholic Church does not do that. Stop spreading lies and fight the real foes of God!

2007-12-16 14:28:48 · answer #10 · answered by wigginsray 7 · 3 3

Yes it is.

However, I think the practice of selling indulgences stopped a while back....

2007-12-16 14:31:16 · answer #11 · answered by Thrice Blessed 6 · 3 1

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