Are you upset, offended that Christians believe in sin? Do you not believe things are sinful?

Question

What is the problem with the word sin? What about the term "Wrong Doing"? Does that upset you? How do you feel when someone does you wrong? What if some one killed your child? Would that upset you? If some one stole your possessions, would that upset you? If you wife/husband was unfaithful to you, would that upset you? What if some one falsely accused you of a crime you did not commit (beared false witness) and you had to pay the penalty (go to jail) for this, would this upset you? Well???

Answer 1

The answer to the latter questions re: feelings...of course I would be upset, while I am breathing these things would effect me.
No problems with the words 'Sin' & 'Wrong Doing' they are just words, it's how someone preaches them that can become annoying.

Answer 2

Christians and other religions have more in common then people give them credit for. Pagans believe that we can basically do what we want, so long as it harms NONE. That means ourselves AND others. So, although I do not believe in sin (especially original sin) I do believe that people can do a lot of wrong and evil things. I just don't believe that there is a list of rules that are unbreakable. If someone killed my child I'd want them severely punished, but if I turned around and killed that person then should I be? According to the commandments I should. If my husband cheated on me I'd probably look up Lorena Bobbit to get some tips. But I've got friends in an open marriage and they are completely happy.
Any time someone purposely does something to cause harm, whether physical, emotional or otherwise they have committed a "sin" in my eyes.

Answer 3

Upset or offended? Nope. If they want to believe that, then that's up to them.

Sn and wrong doing are not exactly the same, for things you may find sinful - such as a bad thought, eating meat on friday, premartial sex, divorce, I don't find to be a sin. Nor do a lot of other belief sets.

yes, we can agree that things like theft, murder, child abuse, etc are wrong and crimes, and for you, sinful.

Many things would upset me, but your trying to equate a crime with a sin doesn't pass the muster- until every thing you consider a sin becomes a crime, then they will never be the same.

So let me ask you - how many mixed blend fabrics are in YOUR closet? Are you sinning just because you're getting dressed? According to the bible, you are.

Answer 4

(deep breath) Taking your questions in order:

1) I'm not personally offended by what anyone believes. I do consider some beliefs offensive to human dignity, and some downright dangerous to human survival. I could give examples, if you ask another question.

2 & 3) No, I don't think that anything is sinful. Sin is a concept invented by churchmen to control their followers by means of guilt and fear, nothing more.

4 & 5) "Wrongdoing" is a better term -- more precise, less likely to be misinterpreted or misused, therefore less upsetting than "sin."

6) Not good. But if I've been wronged then there are civil and legal remedies available to me; it would be pointless to accuse the other person of "sinning" against me. And conversely, if I've done you wrong then you may yell SINNER as loud as you like and it will have no impact on me whatsoever. If my conscience and/or the courts can't convince me that what I did was indeed wrong, then no form of punishment is likely to change my behavior.

7, 8, 9, 10 & 11) Again, there are legal and/or civil remedies available in all of these cases -- public trials, divorce, the assumption of innocence until guilt can be proven, etc. H. sapiens sapiens may not be perfect but we've figured out how to cope with that, and with each other.

12) Well. I hope that covers everything.

Answer 5

I do not get upset if you or any other christian chooses to believe in the concept of sin. I, however, refuse to use it in conjunction with myself because it is a religious term that does not belong to me.

Yes I believe that some things are right and some are wrong by societies standards and those are not always the same as religious sin. After all, your religion tells you homosexuality is a sin and I don't believe it is so nor does society as it is not against societies laws to be homosexual.

You are welcome to your beliefs and I won't get upset at it; however, it is amazing how many christians on this site get upset when I say I don't believe in their concept of sin. For a lot of people, the tolerance does not go both ways.

Answer 6

There are better words that are specific to the act. If someone killed my child, that would be murder. If I had a spouse who cheated on me, that would be infidelity. If someone stole from me, that would be theft. If someone lied about me in court, that would be perjury and obstruction of justice. Every hypothetical that you propose has an actual name in law, and they all have legal remedies. That is because there were laws before the Ten Commandments were written. You don't see words like "sin" in the criminal code, and there's a reason for that.

"Sin" and "wrongdoing" don't really mean anything, they're vague, useless words because they are catch-alls - they include things that are illegal, things that aren't illegal but considered by some to be "wrong", all kinds of things, but what those terms boil down to is: "behavior that I don't like", so they are imply judgement.

Answer 7

We all have a concept of right and wrong. Calling a bad deed a "sin" gives it a religious connotation. It implies, I believe, that an action is contrary to the religion's belief system and wrong in the eyes of G-d. For those who do not believe in G-d, this would be problematic, yes.

Generally, non-believers are particularly annoyed if one tries to impose one's belief system upon them. Therefore, if you say to an athiest, "You shouldn't do that because it is a sin," he will likely tell you to mind your own business.

"Wrong-doing" would probably be a better word. People might still tell you to mind your own business, but it wouldn't end up as an argument about religion. That, in itself, would be a *good* thing!

As for the last part of your question, of course I'm upset if somebody does bad things to me. Not sure what your point is about that...

Answer 8

Some things are clearly wrong, I'm an atheist and I know what I consider to be wrong and right, I use my logic my reason and my conscience to decide.
The concept of sin is something else again and it is to do with religious law, sin only applies to adherents of the religion that decrees that something is sinful, only followers of the religion are bound by it's religious laws.
Often people of certain faiths find this hard to understand and think their religious laws apply to all but this is wrong... they do not.

Answer 9

The Bible says that homosexuality is a sin. Why? because of the fact the non secular custom of marriage became into between guy and a woman. "24 hence a guy leaves his mum and dad and is united to his spouse, and that they alter into one flesh."-Genesis 2:24 "hence a guy will go away his mum and dad and be united to his spouse, and the two will replace into one flesh."-Ephesians 5:31 whether, this would not advise that Christians are allowed to hate and attack gays. this is something that Evangelicals have been merchandising for many an prolonged time alongside with hell hearth scare strategies, and the fundamentalist stream has became a lot of human beings into atheists and agnostics for this reason. The Episcopalian Church does sell LGBT rights, provides equivalent clinical care to gay and bisexual human beings, and enables them to alter into clergy individuals. The Episcopalian Church additionally has an open communion which permits individuals of the LGBT to partake interior the bread and wine.

Answer 10

You ahve a lot of question marks but I'm not sure what you're asking. This seems to be referring to some previous discussion I'm not privy to.

Yes, those things would upset me, but what does that have to do with Christians believing in sin?

Are you suggesting that "upseting", "wrong" and "sinful" are synonyms?