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Is this proof that all saved people will not go to heaven?

Do you believe that here:
"the meek" = all the Jehovah's Witnesses who did not get 'the heaven deal'? (JWs believe that only 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses go to heaven and the other class of JWs will live on earth )

2007-12-16 06:34:42 · 21 answers · asked by Nina, BaC 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

"Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth"

2007-12-16 06:38:43 · update #1

21 answers

Obviously, the Russellite teaching on this is not congruent with all the NT references about ALL those who believe inheriting life eternal NOW (John 5:24) and then in the Kingdom of Heaven before the throne of God on the other side of the grave (Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians 5:1-9; Philippians 1:20-23). The reason for this, as I said before, is because they do not have a respect for the progressive sense of Biblical revelation and redemptive history, and therefore are sadly misled by reading into a verse of a preresurrection of Christ historical account a promise for them, such as Psalms 37 and Matthew 5:5.

What's even worse, they ignore all the verses speaking about the power of sin's affect on this world (Genesis 3) and of the earth's corrupt state (Romans 8:22), and its destined destruction (2 Peter 3:5-7), and believe,just like many unregenerate people, that a heavenly eternal state would be boring and lackluster in comparison to an earthly paradisal kingdom. Jesus even warned us against placing our hope in this world. He made it quite clear that we are to look forward to something quite different than an earthly kingdom in John 14:2 "In my Father's house are many rooms...I am going there to prepare a place for you..." Does this sound like the earthly paradise, or is it Heaven at God's throne? And is it "earthly" and/or "lackluster"? I think not! What the eye has not seen, nor the ear has heard, or even the mind can imagine, is what God has prepared for those who love Him." (1 Corinthians 2:9) Does this Pauline description sound anything like an earthly paradisal kingdom to which we CAN fathom?

2007-12-17 08:22:16 · answer #1 · answered by Tom 4 · 2 2

Mat 5:5 - 5 “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.”

Do you understand the word “EARTH”? Mat 5:5 reflects the prophecies below.

Ps. 37:29: “The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it.”
Ec 1:4- A generation is going, and a generation is coming; but the earth is standing even to time indefinite
Psalms 104:5 - He has founded the earth upon its established places;
It will not be made to totter to time indefinite, or forever.
Prov 2:21-22 - 21 For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it. 22 As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth; and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it.


Rev 11:18 - 18 But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.”


So the Meek ones are the people that will be saved by God from the time of Abel thru the time of Armageddon.


Please notice the parallel between the destruction of the heaven and earth in Noah’s day and in the future.


2 Pet 3:5-7

5 For, according to their wish, this fact escapes their notice, that there were HEAVENS FROM OF OLD and AN EARTH standing compactly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; 6 and by those [means] THE WORLD OF THAT TIME SUFFERED DESTRUCTION when it was deluged with water.

7 But by the same WORD THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH that are now are stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of judgment and of DESTRUCTION OF THE UNGODLY MEN.


The ungodly men in Noah’s day died and so will be in the future. The literal earth and heaven will still remain, just like the earth and heaven remained after the destruction of the “world” in Noah’s day.

The earth will become new again, that is will be cleansed with all the bad elements that are existing today.

2007-12-17 04:14:15 · answer #2 · answered by trustdell1 3 · 2 1

I am not a JW, but I don't claim to know where heaven shall be. 2nd Peter 3:13, "Nevertheless we, according to his PROMISE, look for new heaven AND A NEW EARTH, wherein dwelleth righteousness".

Note that this follows Peter's account of the elements melting with fervent heat. The word elements is # 4747 in Strong's Greek Dictionary and means something orderly in arrangement. Could this burning just burn up those things which are out of orderly arrangement?

I don't think anyone has all knowledge, but when the inspired word of God says there will be a new heaven and new earth, I must look for it as did Peter.

We see only in part, but I hope soon to see face to face. To God all the glory!!!!

edit:

Don s, Jesus was the meekest of men, and was hated by the world, and Jesus said very plainly that we will also be hated by the world; John 15:18, John 17:14.

2007-12-17 01:33:54 · answer #3 · answered by TruthSeeker 4 · 1 0

Cross reference to Psalm 37:11.

[10,11] For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

Here we see the interwoven subject of the Psalm, a plea to patiently wait for God's infinite justice and mercy. Peace in verse 11 is a much better and more literal translation of the Hebrew noun "Shalowm" translated as "prosperity" in versions such as the nas and rsv. The meek are those doing the waiting. Matthew 5:5 quotes verse 11 from the LXX.

"Yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be what they now are; they are brought into desolation in a moment, Ps. 73:19. Have a little patience, for the Judge stands before the door, Jam. 5:8, 9. Moderate your passion, for the Lord is at hand, Phil. 4:5. And when their ruin comes it will be an utter ruin; he and his shall be extirpated; the day that comes shall leave him neither root nor branch (Mal. 4:1)". - Matthew Henry Commentary on Palm 37:10.

2007-12-16 06:56:34 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

The Greek word translated “blessed” means "spiritual well-being and prosperity." This refers to the deep joy of the soul. Those who experience the first aspect of a beatitude (poor, mourn, meek, hungry for righteousness, merciful, pure, peacemakers, and persecuted) will also experience the second aspect of the beatitude (kingdom of Heaven, comfort, inherit the earth, filled, mercy, see God, called sons of God, inherit the kingdom of Heaven).

2007-12-16 07:25:18 · answer #5 · answered by Freedom 7 · 4 0

The greek "ge" or "ghay" contracts from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application):--country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.

Hence the verse, "for they shall inherit THE EARTH."

There is simply no plan put in place for mankind to go to heaven and then be born again into flesh, there is no provision. Although there is hope for those who survive the tribulation as not to die and need to be resurrected.

2007-12-16 12:25:31 · answer #6 · answered by keiichi 6 · 3 1

My question to this , show me where it states that a people that would have Gods name wrong and a organization that would claim they are the only right religion , show me in the bible that Gods organization would come up with prophesies that would fail would be my people, as you said the meek shall inherit the earth, no names mentioned.

2007-12-16 10:34:01 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

"Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth."

Have you ever seen a meek person who wasn't loved by everyone? I know there is the exception, but for the most part, those who are meek inherit the friendship of many and they are blessed.

As for inheriting this earth let us not forget that this earth will melt with a fervent heat.There will be nothing left to inherit.
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up". 2 Peter 3:10

2007-12-16 06:43:13 · answer #8 · answered by don_steele54 6 · 5 4

the Living Earth it mean some time the Paradise .
Gal 4:21-31
21
Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says?
22
For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.
23
His son by the slave woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a promise.

24
These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar.

25
Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and

corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem,

because she is in slavery with her children.

26
But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother.
27
For it is written:
"Be glad, O barren woman,
who bears no children;
break forth and cry aloud,
you who have no labor pains;
because more are the children of the desolate woman
than of her who has a husband."
28
Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise.
29
At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now.
30
But what does the Scripture say? "Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son."
31
Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.

2007-12-16 07:41:33 · answer #9 · answered by Mosa A 7 · 0 0

Psalms 37:11
"But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.

2007-12-16 06:48:14 · answer #10 · answered by Razorwind 4 · 4 0

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