Are you sure God loves you?

Question

Look at the past. The most striking example occurred during WW2 when the Nazis (atheists) tortured and murdered more than 6 million people. Most of them devout Jews. God could not even find any love for any of them, not even an innocent child. What better opportunity for him to show himself.

Why should he love you? Give me a reason.

You want more examples of how god does not love anybody?

I don't want to hear "God works in strange ways" say something intellectual.

Many of you are unshakeable about god loves you. But I always felt he could have intervened at times in the past but he never did. So, my question is why does he love you so much and not them? He did not protect the holocaust victims as he seems to protect some of you. Does it make sense?

Answer 1

This is tricky, as it deals with both strong emotional issues and philosophical ones.

But you're dealing with a false premise -- that IF God loves people, there will no longer be tragedy and sin in the world. I.e. IF God loves people, He would then intervene to prevent us from any word or deed that would harm someone else.

And then we'd question His goodness for making us robots.

If don't mean to sounds flippant, but you have to cut through the heat to the light.

Nazis weren't doctrinal atheists, but they WERE philosophical atheists in some ways (also, very pagan). They actively sought to suppress any belief in God that practically affected people's lives, prevented party members from attending any church they hadn't compromised, and substituted Germanic pagan mythology as a substitute for belief in Jesus Christ.

Answer 2

I am sure.

Many of you are unshakable about god loves you. But I always felt he could have intervened at times in the past but he never did.
So, my question is why does he love you so much and not them?
God is Love, and love does not know a favorite.
He did not protect the holocaust victims as he seems to protect some of you. Does it make sense?
God does not protect what he doesn't know. He never made a race of humans that live, sin, war, get sick, and die. The testimony of the physical world proves everything unlike good, God. Therefore, as we see bad human situations, we immediately blame God for not doing something. What we fail to understand is that He already did, and it IS perfect right now, but the physical eye and senses can't perceive it, and the ignorance generated by this seeming evidence keeps us in bondage to everything unlike good, such as darkness and chaos.

Answer 3

I hate to sound blunt, but, God chooses what God does because... he is God. He is God. He works out everything to his glory. We can't be intellectual about God because we cannot understand his ways fully (too much for us to fathom). No one can explain to you why God lets stuff like this happen.

But I do know this: God loves you. And he wants a relationship with you. There was a gap between Him and us. He is holy and pure. We are sinful and wicked. God cannot have anything to do with sin and wickedness. But he still wanted to have a relationship with us. He loved us so much (even in our messed-up-ness) that he gave his only son to die, to pay for our debt. Our slates were wiped clean and now we can be with God.


It is sad how this like the Holocaust happened. I won't sit here and say I can understand it. But this is what I know: I know that, that innocent child who died at the hands of the Nazis is in Heaven right now, and God is saying to him "You've done well, my good and faithful servant. You've run your race. Welcome home." One day we all hope to hear that.

Maybe the reason the innocent child died was to show the depravity of man, and what he's capable to doing to his fellow man. Maybe the child death brought a family, a people or a nation together in ways we would not see. Hey, maybe his death was to bring YOU here to ask this question, and hear a message of hope:

God love you. He loved you first. He loves you because he loves you becuase he loves you because he loves you. And that will never change (Never ever). The only thing that will change is how you love Him. God's love for you will never change. Try changing the way you love him. I don't know how that would look for you. But I know this: You will experience something wonderful.

Answer 4

Umm, I'm very sorry but firstly I would hate to say that Holocaust is a hoax and it's confirmed by a lot of accountable historians...
http://ihr.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YqseZ8Kl1I

Would an all-loving being punish you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV0lVWtyduo

And a bit about Africa:
http://www.africancrisis.org/Photos45.asp

I'd prefer to go by the example of starving children and raped women if I were you.

But then again, it's no use asking that here, hon...
Some people are too deluded to realize their delusion about their imaginary friend who's answering their upscale monologues while ignoring the starving children and raped women...


Epicures thought about it in 300 BCE, and he came up with this:

"The gods can either take away evil from the world and will not, or, being willing to do so, cannot; or they neither can nor will, or lastly, they are both able and willing. If they have the will to remove evil and cannot, then they are not omnipotent. If they can, but will not, than they are not benevolent. If they are neither able nor willing, then they are neither omnipotent nor benevolent. Lastly, if they are both able and willing to annihilate evil, how does it exist?"



This is a sad and cruel world.
I know God doesn't love me or you or them or those who suffered so much.

Haha.

RAmen.

Answer 5

Put that way it doesn't make sense.

However, it does prove the absurdity of an immaterial god portrayed as an intervening authority with specific preferences.

But if we see the connection between life and love, and separate this from our will, attachments and desires, we might see that all of the horrors you very briefly refer to have have occurred because... it is men that work in strange (and sick) ways.

And that's why before talking about god and his ways, I am so interested in first defining what is the word god referring to.

Because, the way I see it, god is life, and is therefore love.

Answer 6

God specifically gave human beings free will. Meaning they will do whatever they want. He's not here to puppet all of our actions, or else what would be the point of life? Life is a test to find our worthiness to reach Heaven, so invariably we will all suffer hardships during that test. And the free choices of others often leads to suffering of those around them. That is not the fault of God, but the fault of men. We as a society were given by God the power to do good, but so often succumb to the Devil's temptations and our own mistaken decisions.

It's the afterlife that will end up truly mattering, so it's important to keep your faith through the trials of mankind and nature to reach it. God gives you just enough for your spirit to survive (little bits of hope if you look for them, small miracles to remind you He's there, things to make you happy if you bother to pay attention and allow them into your heart), it's up to the person whether or not they focus on those things. It can be hard when the world seems to crumble around you, but there will always be something, and it can always be enough if you're strong enough to accept it.

Answer 7

I don't think God exists. I take more of a philosophical approach on the theory of God, and rather believe that he set a clock for the world and left us up to our devices. It is a levelheaded, logical explanation for the wars the famine and the sadness that is enveloping the world. It is not God, or some other entity, it is human nature: the human cycle. Humans create god's and religions to keep control of the masses and give hope. God is pretty much Santa Clause for adults, he has nothing to do with war and the world. The world is alone, and humans are devouring it like the bacteria they are. Honestly, if an alien flew over the earth they would start shooting it, because no other planet has a bacteria using up its resources and polluting its atmopshere. We are a bacteria and we are spreading to other planets and moons as we speak. I think there is something more than humanity, but no god, there are plenty of reasons to say there is none.

Answer 8

God still loves us. He allows circumstances, wars, accidents, ect.. to give future generations a chance to change their hatred, their views, ect... Over the years, there have been racial/religious protests/wars and we question as to why is this happening? But, as the years of yesterday have passed by we see what we have learned from these things. Look at how black, white, jew, gentile, mixed race all go to school together, live in the same communities and worship together. That would not have happened 50 years ago. God loves us because He is still teaching and correcting us. He is a wonderful Father.

Answer 9

I'm sorry if any answers fail to meet your intellectual criteria, but you must realize my purpose overall is not in so much convincing you as ensuring that you've at least been informed. I know God loves me (and everyone without exception) because He said so. He sacrificed His own son for my benefit so that I wouldn't have to perish (when it would've been far easier to leave me [and the rest of us] lost in darkness).
I realize this doesn't approach the empirical standard you were seeking, but it is THE answer. Happy Holidays.

Answer 10

I have no way to prove that God exists, but one reason why I believe in God is that I cannot rule out the possibility of God's existence. God is omnipotent and therefore Lord. It is not my business to ask Lord whether He loves me or not -- it is my duty to do my best to serve Lord because He is Lord. They say that God is good, so I believe that He has plan for everybody and no one is born to be wasted in eternal torture in hell. I believe that our wise God has given thought of every body's fates and if He has a reason to punish the evil He has plenty of choice to do so without resorting to most cruel extreme.