This is the only problem with Christianity my seek faces that says Christ is not the messiah. For he sinned at the cross by killing himself to save us. So he uses a sin to save us. Kinda like I will bow to you lucifer to save them...as the holy righteous God sins. He calls us sinners, but he is no different then us. BUT I can also see the sacrafice. I am a man that has tried over and over to become perfect like God, for "this" way to make it into heaven, by his holy hand I become perfect and holy, as I seek and seek. I know there is no one like me, searching for God's righteousness. So God sent a messiah...BUT God sinned to save us....for a righteous God that can not sin, he not only lied and sinned again, but sinned 2 times now by killing himself for us.
in the old testement does it say anywhere LUCIFER is God of this world, or is it only in the new testement?
I have not truely found Christ, he has only been in my dream's...and how much think of him, I see that as coincidence.
2007-12-16
03:28:25
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so sense I can not find him, and I really do not have a life, so all I do is try to give my life it to God. I search for wisdom threw prayer. But Jesus is going to have to do more then just a dream to show me he lives....for I dream of my brother and mother also....he is just in my thoughts. BUT I did find an unknown God, he said I do not know his name.
2007-12-16
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First and foremoest have a little thing called "Faith" and He is Holy so He is not a sinner.
2007-12-16 03:32:12
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answered by ~§uηƒℓσబєr§~ 5
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It's good you're asking all these questions. It means you have a brain and are using it. God is a being (if you believe) or a concept (if you're not sure), not a human. Jesus was human and thus a sinner like everyone else but more perfect because he was willing to die for our sins (if you believe -- if not he was a unique individual who felt a need to preach and be sacrificed). I suggest you do not take the Bible in a literal sense or it will make you very confused. It was written over the course of many, many years by humans and is our idea for how it happened and how it ought to be. Personally, I don't believe that it just fell out of the sky as the "word of God" and have trouble with people who live their lives on this basis, without allowing for alternative interpretations.
When you're old enough you can take a college-level course in the world's religions and see the underlying philosophies behind them all. It's much more interesting than the conservative approach to the Bible.
2007-12-16 03:36:59
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answered by wendy.bryan 3
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You are totally misunderstanding what he did he did not kill himself he just had the knowledge that people where going to kill him. To save our sins it wasn't a sin it's like you and your son or brother, or someone dear (you get the picture) are at gun point someone shoots the gun Jesus stood in front of the bullet for us SO we could have our sins forgiven and live eternally.
About you saying that you tried to over and over to be perfect like god it's not gona happen even god addmitted that he wronged us by causing the flood in the old testament but where did u get the part about "LUCIFER is God of this world" where in the bible is it i never heard of that. And i have read almost the entire bible.
We are not perfect that is why Jesus died on the cross to save us of our sins
hope this helps :)
2007-12-16 03:54:44
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answered by king_killa_452 2
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none of what you refer to exists in the reality of the universe. god as you suggest is not real. the concept of an omniscient, omnipresent, infinite entity dictates that god would not have a gender at all. in addition, seeing as how this entity is perfect, perfection would not suffer from imperfection. that is a distinct contradiction that completely negates many of the concepts of monotheistic religious systems. a perfect entity would not succumb to imperfect emotions such as a human. perfection dictates that no experience of anger, jealousy, or any other such emotion would ever occur. sin could never be found in infinite perfection. the existence of sin negates perfection. again, a rather simplistic, utterly foolish contradiction.
as to your search for the European derived Christ, you cannot find in the realities of the universe what does not exist. if a rock was never where it was perceived to be, no matter how much anyone professes to believe the rock was in that location, the realities of the universe cannot be refuted. the rock was never there. belief, faith, or whatever anyone wants to call it, will not change the reality of the non-existence of said rock at that location. belief otherwise is clearly a manifestation of imperfection. only imperfection would allow for such illogical assumptions to pervade to such an extent that people would argue, fight, and kill to support the belief that the rock was in a location that it was never in. how odd a behavior to exhibit...
in reality though, it's no more odd than the inability of a finite consciousness to completely perceive/understand an infinite being/entity/reality/concept...
2007-12-16 03:47:04
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answered by DF 2
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Jesus did not kill himself, he was killed by the Romans.
Oh yeah, and that time he spent in the garden sweating to the point of blood doesn't spend like he was looking forward to dieing on the cross.
If Jesus just wanted to kill himself, he sure didn't pick an easy way to go. Getting flogged and tortured near the point of death. Then having to carry a heavy cross a few miles while still getting whipped and spat upon, then to top it all off having his hands and feet nailed to a piece of wood and hanging there a few hours. Yeah, that really sounds like the way someone would do it, if they really wanted to off themselves.
2007-12-16 03:46:29
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answered by Anonymous
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The Bible clearly states in John 3:16 For GOD so loved the world that He gave his only begotten SON!!! So, first God did not die, Jesus died as the ultimate sacrifice for mankind that one day we could live with Him in Heaven. Jesus never sinned, and He didn't kill himself. He allowed His own people, the Jews to nail Him to the cross. Yes He could have saved His life, the Bible says that while on the cross a legion of angels waited for Him to just call, and they would have saved Him, but because He loved you and me so much He died and paid the price and destroyed the plan of Satan, fully and completely. BTW we can never be perfect like God, the Bible says, "Our righteousness is as filthy rags" It takes the blood of Jesus to be able to enter into Heaven. Praise God that He sent His Son to die for our sins, that we might live!!!!
2007-12-16 03:38:17
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answered by RnTrain 2
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Do you think the universe to be a chance happening, just the mere formation of snow flakes requires more intricacy than your simple one tract thinking can produce. Sin goes without a clear definition, as it is a transgression for and to some by for and to some by others. One man's meat is poison to another. Everything, all matter, is subject to law, the entire universe as we know it contains something, nothing does not exist, exept in concept, as a drawn dividing line in a geometry pattern.
2007-12-16 04:08:27
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answered by Anonymous
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Part of the gospel is that "justification by faith", ie Jesus has paid for our sins so we don't experience God's wrath any more. But it also has teaching on being transformed. Even as christians if we try to do things in our own strength we fail, this is called doing things "in the flesh". Paul commented on his failures in this respect in Romans 7. But then he says that the Holy Spirit can lift us up out of that, if we set our minds on things above, then the "law of the spirit of life" has victory over "the law of sin and death", rather like an airplane can overcome gravity (got that illustration from McGee's "through the bible" - a great free audio bible commentary). There is teaching on this transformation in Paul's letters. Also in John's gospel and epistles, and 2 Peter. In 2 Peter it asys that through the promises given in Christ "we may partake of the divine nature"; that is because we get in union with God, and if we are abiding in the proper manner we start becoming like Jesus. But we have to know what has been given us to have the faith for it to happen.
2016-04-09 06:55:17
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answered by Anonymous
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My friend, you are making this far to hard.
Decide, on your own, what is good behavior.
Then do your best to behave that way.
As you live your life, be open to change, and
when you fall short be as kind to yourself as
you would be kind to others. Do not expect
perfection from yourself or anyone else. The
reason for this could not be simpler; it is
because perfection does not exist. "perfection"
is like "unicorn", it is a word for a thing that does
not exist. Now, give your brain a well needed
rest and get on with life.
2007-12-16 03:48:03
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answered by I ain't nothing but a hound dog. 5
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Jesus did not kill himself. What Jesus did on the cross, can most accurately be described as "taking a bullet" for us. We are the ones who were supposed to die in our sins. Not Jesus, who was sinless. Those were the rules. But, Jesus died in our place so that we could live. That's called heroic, not suicidal. But, since you don't even understand the basics, you probably will not understand this.
2007-12-16 03:35:14
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answered by Anonymous
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OHHHH BROTHER! R you serious? Man you are just a rantin and a raven aren't you? WHO in the name of El Shaddai said Satan was God of this world? Do you believe such nonsense? Christ is lord alone. Satan has no power except the power humans give him when they credit him. Who teaches you such things?JW's? God can't sin because.................HE/She IS GOD!!!!!! It is not for us to determine if what God does is a sin or not GOD DOES AS HE/SHE PLEASES! WHY? BECAUSE HE/SHE IS GOD! Know this alone: Listen to Christ's teaching what does he say..In a nutshell Love God, and Love your fellow humans.
AMEN
Oh yeah Lucifer is not a given name of Satan in the Bible The idiot who wrote Dante's Inferno and Paradise Lost just made that $hit up. Peace
2007-12-16 03:41:56
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answered by Anonymous
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