ban cyclists they wont follow the highway code?

Question

they also drive on the pavement go through red lights wont pay towards the roads but insist on cycle lanes and get in everyones way

stolen b im actually 10stone slightly under weight nob

Answer 1

make em pay £50 a year for road tax and get em to have insurance as well eh, that'll keep em off the road, riding around in their daft outfits in the middle of the road

Answer 2

There are several rational answers here. Steve c and PK, addressed the taxes. We all pay taxes as we all work and drive as well. So, I'm waiting for my tax refund, for the times I'm not driving. While there are a few bad cyclist, there are far more bad drivers. Ask yourself this - when was the last time you were speeding? I'd say - it was the last time you drove - I'm right aren't I? Are you the same driver that just cut off the truck trying to change lanes? Sure you are. Are you that driver that does 40 mph though my sub where kids are riding and playing? I bet you are. It can't even be measured how much worse drivers are than cyclists.

Your question is a rave and isn't based in common sense at all. You had to slow down for a few seconds because of a cyclist today is all. The answers too, that claim the tax issue, how ignorant can you be? The rant you made this day you make every day about other drivers - chew on that, as you look at yourself for being so foolish.

EDIT: Silver, I'll expand on your answer. I'd like to band drivers too that don't follow code. The streets will be empty and bikes will be the only transportation left. Since I know I must have been speeding the last time I drove, I'd be without a car too!

EDIT: Clint, you are right, I usually refrain from replying to "the bait" but I was bored...

Answer 3

I Wasn't going to answer this due to the 'Troll like' nature of the question!

How about Taxing Pedestrians?
Or Horse riders? (see below for answer)

I have heard the arguement before "We got more right on the road 'cos we pay Road Tax" . . WELL the fact is, - I DO PAY FOR THE ROADS!

Road Tax or more correctly Vehicle Excise Duty, - is payable to users of motorised transport for the privilage of using the the roads. - The building and upkeep of roads isn't paid for by the little paper disc displayed on a windscreen!!!! (commonly known as Road Tax!) It is paid for By The local Councils and funded by Council Tax. Of which every household in the UK contributes, whether they are a regular road user or not! (yes even pedestrians, Horse riders and Cyclists)

You are right in the fact that a large proportion of cyclists flout the Highway Code, I see it all the time but they are still liable to be fined, if caught, just like any other road user!

A number of regular contributors have already tackled the banning issue, so I won't add to that.

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PS. Actually McG, I work a '4 0n 4 Off' shift pattern, I have two night shifts to go, - then I am back at full strength (for 4 days at least ! lol.) And Yes we do have Alleys here !! But "Right up your Street" is the phrase most often used.

Answer 4

Do all cyclists do this?
Ban cars they all speed, they all tailgate, they all fail to indicate etc..
Not everyone is the same.
And for those saying cyclists don't pay tax how do you know they don't have a car at home that is taxed, staying off the road making more room for you although they have paid to use the road just like you.
I rarely cycle the 7 miles to work but when I do I DO NOT jump red lights, I laugh at cyclists hit when jumping red lights due to there stupidity. I DO cycle on pavements when it is safer, using that rare quality 'Common Sense' slowing to a near halt when pedestrians are walking. And Yes, I do appear aggressive. I have learnt through experience that nearly every ignorant person on the roads hates the cyclist and does their best to make life difficult so it kind of makes you aggressive when you have to stick up for yourself 5-10 times every day just trying to get to work.

That's why as a driver I respect other peoples rights.

Answer 5

In order to ban cyclists, you would first have to regulate them. Licences etc might be tricky. The nearest you get is a school proficiency test.

Paying for the cost of roads is tricky. Firstly, a car road tax is supposed to pay for roads. However, council tax is also supposed to pay for roads. So, even if you do not own a car, you are still paying for the car driver to use his/her vehicle.

It's funny, but the most people that I have seen jump red lights have not been on two wheels - motorised or not. So figure. However, I would say that you drive in the city and, as such are probably a very frustrated motorist. From an urbanites purspective, cycles make a lot of sense. Most journeys will be within 10 miles of work place. When you consider such things as congestion charges, all of the petrol used just to sit in traffic and the hassle of public transport, a cycle makes a lot of sence. This is especially true when you take into account the fact that most people will take 20 minutes to cycle those 10 miles. 20 minutes unless you are a burger guzzling, coffee swilling type that can not just get out of the car and do a little exercise - good luch with the heart bypass by the way.

Unfortunately, motorists do not believe that the roads are made for them, they know it. They can not stand lorries, vans, other car users (Especially if they are overtaken by what they consider to be an inferior model of car), motorcylce riders (Who commit the most unimaginable sin of moving throught those traffic jams that the car drivers can't), cyclists see above and as for horse riders. OK they might have been here first, but there is not room for them on 21st century roads. PS - pedestrians.

Your problem is not with cyclists. It is with your car and the frustrations of modern living that say you have to get there quickly. If you want to get there - Plan your journey better and leave 10 minutes earlier than you would.

Now here is a final thought. At projected increased usage, not counting developing economies like China, there is 50 years of petrol left. In order to safeguard longer use and to outbid other countries, petrol costs will rise to the point that cars will become a rich mans toy, possibly within the next 20 years. That leaves you with gas - a commodity found in oil deposits, bio diesel - which will compete with food crops to grow oils, electrical or hydrogen (Not viable at the moment).

This means that economics will force you out of your car within 20 years. Do you want to know where you can buy a cheap cycle to beat the rush, or will you be relying on public transport? :)

Luck

Answer 6

If you've seen the way drivers drive cars, you'd know why cyclists take to the walkways. It's a matter of staying alive.

Also there are plenty, to many in fact, of motorists who ignore the speed limits. Are we going to ban autos?

Cyclists have a right to the road, and they only get out of the way as a courtesy. The cycle-lane is for cyclists to move over onto, when a car is passing. (a slow-lane for bikes). For good Line-Of-Sight visibility, the cyclists must use the middle of the lane at most times.

Answer 7

To be truthful you could no longer smash out with cycling recklessly for terribly long....there are too many insane motorists. you desire smarts to cycle on the roads, sometimes breaking the line code is neccessary. yet yeah, they should study it. particularly some cyclists have already handed a drivers attempt tho...

Answer 8

Or ban the highway code and make everyone ride a bicycle - or walk.

Car drivers love to get angry at cyclists, but at least riding a bike (or walking - or if you're disabled, a buggy) is a convenient way to get fit, you don't large amounts of C02 into the atmosphere everyday, and if everyone biked, cyclists wouldn't have to worry about being struck by angry drivers in a rush to get somewhere.

See, I countered your wild statement (disguised as a question) with an equally wild statement.

Don't like cyclists? Keep driving your car, and deal with it (and by that I don't mean by running down any cyclists that get in your way.

Also, I don't run red lights or use cycle lanes (as i tend to ride down a large country road (between Norwich and Fakenham)), yet I have to suffer near misses as cars fly by me - when I'm pushed over as far as I can.

Answer 9

Uh-oh! Hard of thinking alert!

Cyclists don't pay for the roads? Cyclists pay exactly the same road fund license as any other zero emissions vehicle. Would you like to ban Hybrids and electric vehicles as well?

People that break the rules of the road deserve a good kicking, irrespective of what mode of transport they're using. Going through red lights will eventually get whoever does it injured or killed - think of it as Darwinism in action.

Pavement cycling? Generally I see that being done by lightless BMX riders after dark, usually wearing black. Darwin will get them as well eventually.

And how many cycle lanes have been installed because they're been "demanded" by cyclists compared to the number that have been put in to meet a government target to get funding?

However, as over 99% of road deaths and serious injuries are caused by motor vehicles, maybe you'd be better off starting there. Perhaps you'd be better off getting off of your mobile phone while driving and taking some advanced driving lessons, then perhaps you'll see what's going on around you and be able to take appropriate action so that small vehicles (like bicycles) don't "get in your way."

Answer 10

I cycle and I ride on the road because that is where the law states that I am supposed to ride. Bicycles have the same road rights as vehicles with the exception of limited access interstates. I have yet to get an deduction in the taxes I pay due to the miles I ride on my bicycle. The only possible deduction in taxes are related to the gas I am not buying, but that is offset by the damage I do not do to the roads or environment by riding. Your "question/rant" sounds like a cyclist got in your way while you were heading to get donuts or ice cream.

Answer 11

I don't have the energy today to argue this issue. Many good responses already express my sentiments.

I want to know where the @#$% is Mr G on this? This is right up his alley (do they call them alleys in England?).


EDIT: Now that I have your schedule straight, I shan't worry for you.

EDIT V2.0: as of now 28 passionate answers. If the question mattered or not the right strings were pulled!