I did not choose to be born, and to be born human is automatic sinful creature right? So, I did not choose sin; I had zero choice, no possible choice, none... so why did God decide hell would be a righteous punishment for my non-choice?
So Jesus saved me from my sins? From my non-choice?
2007-12-15 20:27:47 · 27 answers · asked by free will illusion 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Punter,
Jesus also said, "none are good but the Father."
2007-12-15 20:33:27 · update #1
skylolo, "the fool saith, there is no god"
I am agnostic, so I don't really say that
2007-12-15 20:43:38 · update #2
Vhdl B, time is created by cause and effect... I think thats pretty simple to understand
2007-12-15 20:44:44 · update #3
Blessed, it was a fruit... and not an apple... common misconception
Adam and Eve had no desire, will or choice to be created; and if they had no knowledge of good and evil, then how could they have known disobedience was bad?
2007-12-15 20:49:12 · update #4
I am a ******* AGNOSTIC, thus why I am asking ******* questions
2007-12-15 20:51:36 · update #5
Vidocq;
you know where I was last December? In the freezing cold, raining, streets of Ramadi Iraq, getting my *** shot at by religious extremist who had so much faith in God that they would sacrifice their selves and their families for it... so maybe to you... my life is non-committal to anything... but I'd like to think I did my country a service
2007-12-15 21:00:36 · update #6
Dude, you were automatically born without choice, but you have heard the gospel now and you have a choice to accept it or to reject it. Whatever definition of hell you use, it is seperate from God. You can choose to live with Him or without Him. Together in love or separate.
2007-12-15 20:59:31 · answer #1 · answered by jmz 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Like my other postings, hell-fire is a false religion. It it not a teaching in the bible. Hell is a grave. How can God send anyone to a place of torture forever, when we only have lived but a spec in time??? This is just not the case. Even Job asked God to hide him in hell so he would not suffer Gods anger!!!!!
So the bible really points out what is false and what is truth.
You are right, you did not ask to be born, which is why life is called a gift. You did not deserve to live at all, but by kindness you are allowed to live. Because God put in motion, life he wanted things to be perfect.
Of course go back to Adam and Eve, and things got messed up because of a bad angel. But really what happened there is a bit more deeper.
Again you did not choose sin, but you and all of us are impacted by the result of sin. God again has given us another gift. By choosing to accept the ransom sacerifice of Jesus death, we can have hope for a resurrection in a restored spiritual and physical condition. As the bible states death and suffering will be no more.
So what we or you have to contend with is do you want to accept this gift? It is up to you. God wants all persons to come to him. The reality is that many will not. It is a gift that is wasted. Those that choose not, will not be in a place of torment, but will eventually not exist at all. Because God will take care of those that love him, and are obident to his commandments.
2007-12-15 20:41:59 · answer #2 · answered by fire 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
None of us chose "sin". That issue was taken care of in the Garden of Eden.
The issue given to you now is Jesus.
What will YOU do with Jesus??
You have two choices - Accept or Reject.
If you Reject, that will be the choice that will send you into an eternal life of torture.
God GIVES you a choice - You make the choice!
2007-12-15 20:43:29 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
First of all, hell is not a rightous punishment! And you were born into a sinful world because of your ancestors. Don't even try to say that you have never made a bad choice in life...we all have! No, you did not choose to be born, or to be human, but you are what you are! Now, you have another choice to make...accept the fact that you are not perfect, but that you can still have salvation at no cost to you. Yeah, it's free!
2007-12-15 20:37:05 · answer #4 · answered by rebecca_sld 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
To be human is to fave a sinful nature. It is not a non-choice.
You have the coice of sinning or not. Anything that displeases God is a sin. We all sin but need to be aware of the temptation.
Example:To murder a guy on the street is a sin but you choose not to do that (I hope). Therefore you decide not to do that sin.
The devil leads you to sin and if you pray for God to help you resist he will. There is always a way our of temptation. Choosing to sin or not.
To believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and rose from the dead is the way of salvation and for you to spend eternity in Heaven, not hell.
When you don't believe in Jesus and not follow the bible is when you have trouble.
May God bless you and may you realize it.
Take care
2007-12-15 20:37:50 · answer #5 · answered by bud 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
OK This is an Advise. Get Up and do something with your life instead of complaining and blaming God for everything that happens to you. Eternal Torture? Ha! I know people who live in the cold streets this December, who would kill to be in a house in front of a Computer Like you are. And You are Complaining? What right do you have to complain? Did You Lose someone? Then you Mourn and Honor their memory by keep going, Did You Loose your Job? Then you get up and go for a new one, Did Your Girl Dumped you? Then You Get up and keep looking for the one. Do You have problems with people bullying you? Then You stand up and confront them. Don't just seat defeated to Complain. DO SOMETHING.
2007-12-15 20:38:24 · answer #6 · answered by Vidocq 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Now you know why Satan is so pissed. He starts off so perfect, powerful and beautiful. He is given practically everything. Then God creates these eating, pooping, sweaty creatures that curse God and don't even acknowledge God's existance and God tells Satan that these people will inherit the kingdom of God. God must have something interesting in store for mankind. Maybe we ought to take advantage of this opportunity before our "crowns" are stolen from us.
By the way, thanks for risking your life so that we can actually be putting our beliefs on the internet like this. We owe you.
2007-12-15 20:40:05 · answer #7 · answered by Buddy_Lee_Hombre_de_accion 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God created humans to be perfect and sinless. Adam and Eve disobeyed God because they had free will (God doesn't want to force us to love Him)). They were deceived and sin entered this world. Whether or not we like it, they screwed it up for the rest of us. But I honestly believe that if it was any of us standing there in that garden, we would've all chosen the apple. I just really believe we like to do things our own way. So, sin and corruption entered this world and God had to save us from it. So, even though you think it was a non-choice, I think we would've all made the same mistake just to see what else was out there.
2007-12-15 20:35:04 · answer #8 · answered by ? 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
It's true you wasn't ask to be here,but you do have a choice
it's up to you how you want to make your life,if you want Gods help he's their for you,and if you don't thats ok too he's still their for you if you change your mind and don't worry about going to hell because your not,because the only hell their is,is the hell you make for self in your life
2007-12-15 20:56:28 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
if you were created by God, he can decide anything for you.
why do ppl keep making arguments that assume you are at the same level as God? why do you think you can use YOUR moral standards and assume it applies to your creator?
i'm not a Christian. I just think your and many other atheists' assumption that they have the privilege to understand their creator is extremely flawed.
if you choose not to believe in God, then don't ask questions like this. if you think there is a God then try not to justify what he's doing.
2007-12-15 20:37:00 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋