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when even Jesus prayed to god, and worshiped god. If he IS god how can he pray to himself and worship himself?

2007-12-15 18:10:40 · 14 answers · asked by phree 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Poor Misguided eelai000, if you are that sheltered that you believe that ONLY christians SAY, I did not say BELIEVE that Jesus is God, then you must live under a rock. If you don't understand the question, then don't answer.

2007-12-15 18:50:29 · update #1

After reading some of these answers all I could do was shake my head (currently there are only 8). First, where in the bible does it speak of "trinity." And if man/mankind is made in god's image, and he can "divide himself" then shouldn't humans have that same ability? Some of you are going to cause people in your own faith to stumble, just by reading some of your responses. I was asking a REAL question, looking for a REAL answer, not some garbage that you felt "sounds" correct.

2007-12-15 18:54:51 · update #2

14 answers

I agree. In Acts 7 it says that stephen looked up into heaven and saw Jesus Christ standing on the right hand of god. I know he is god and all, but why would he bother showing himself in two forms. They are two spereate beings.
Jesus Christ is the SON of god, not god himself. Thats even what Jesus said himself. Jesus always reffered to god as his father. Doesnt add up if he is god too.

2007-12-15 18:17:25 · answer #1 · answered by Advidoct 2 · 2 0

Hey Phree
Christians do not believe that Jesus and God (Father) are the same person, but that they are both God in nature. The distinction is made between the person God and the nature God. Confusing at first I know. Try John 1, Phillipians 2, Colloisians 1 and Hebrews 1. They (Jesus and the Father) share the nature God, as you and I share the nature man. Yet they are different persons. Jesus willingly gave up the independet exercise of his deity (Phil 2:6-11) (John 1:1-18) and took on the nature of man. Thus he was dependent on his Father while on earth and prayed to him. Hope this helps

2007-12-15 18:22:11 · answer #2 · answered by jmz 2 · 1 1

It says in the Bible that God is a TRIUNE God. The word "Trinity" was used after the Bible was written.
The Father is God. The Son is God. The Holy Spirit is God.
There are three Devine Persons in the one God,and each Devine Person is FULLY God.The Holy Trinity is a mystery.It cannot be explained with human logic.You just have to accept it.

2007-12-15 21:22:41 · answer #3 · answered by ROBERT P 7 · 0 1

Yes, why do they, when He is not the Almighty God.

Socinians, as they later came to be called, wanted most of all to restore the pure Christianity taught in the Bible. They felt that the Protestant Reformation had merely skimmed off some of the corruption and rituals from the Catholic Church while leaving its rotten core, its unbiblical teachings, quite intact.

Like the religions around them, they were guilty of many errors. Still, of all the religions of the Reformation, this rivulet of Socinianism adhered to the Bible more than most.

Why Did They Reject the Trinity?

Like Servetus before them, though, the Socinians were most renowned for rejecting the churches’ teaching on the Trinity. Why did they? Their reasoning followed two lines. First and foremost, they saw that it was unscriptural.

“In place of a doctrine whose very terms—Trinity, hypostasis, person, substance, essence,

were not taken from the Bible but invented by philosophers, and whose Christ was little more than a philosophical abstraction, he wished to get men to put their faith in a living God, in a divine Christ who had been a historical reality, and in a Holy Spirit forever working in the hearts of men.” He believed the three were one only in the sense of John 17:21 and considered holy spirit to be God’s active force, not a person.

Further, the Socinians found the doctrine’s so-called Scriptural supports to be quite weak. The favorite scripture of Trinitarians, 1 John 5:7, was already well-known as a corrupted text, a later and uninspired addition to the Bible. The other, John 1:1, makes sense only when understood as calling Christ “divine,” or “a god,” instead of making him the same as almighty God.

The most devastating blow to the Trinity, though, was that the Bible’s very description of God, Jesus, and holy spirit makes the membership of each of them in any trinity quite impossible. How so? Well, first of all, holy spirit is shown in the Bible to be not a person at all but, rather, God’s active force. (Luke 1:41; Acts 10:38) Second, Christ could not be “coequal and coeternal” with the Father, since the Bible describes him as subordinate to his Father and as having been created by Him. Colossians 1:15) Finally, how could Jehovah, so often described as the one God, actually be part of a threefold deity?


Thus, on Biblical grounds the Socinians refuted the Trinity. But they also rejected it on the grounds of pure reason. According to a historian of the Reformation: “Socinus held that, although [the Bible] may contain things above reason, it does not contain anything contrary to reason.” The Trinity, with its contradictory notions of one god who is at the same time three persons, clearly fell into the latter category.

Hated as they were by Catholics and Protestants alike, though, the Socinians were not to remain at peace for long. Socinus himself was attacked, beaten, mobbed, and nearly drowned for his beliefs.

Persecution of the Socinians began to increase. In 1611 a wealthy Socinian was stripped of his property and sentenced to have his tongue cut off, to be beheaded, to have a hand and a foot cut off, and then to be burned. Of course, he could live on in peace if he would just change his religion. He wouldn’t budge.

many learned and reasonable men saw their Scriptural truth. Sir Isaac Newton, one of the greatest scientists in all of history, refuted the Trinity in his writings and is sometimes called a Socinian. Joseph Priestley, famous chemist and the discoverer of oxygen, was also called a Socinian. John Milton, the great poet, renounced the Trinity.

2007-12-15 19:07:14 · answer #4 · answered by BJ 7 · 0 0

Jesus was the physical manifestation of God in human form. Since God is everywhere, Jesus could easily have prayed to the spiritual manifestation of God in heaven. When He came to earth, the scripture says that He emptied himself of all of his glory and power to become like mortal man. So the part of Him that was left behind in heaven, was the part that still had the power. All the miracles Jesus did were done by the power of the Father working through Him. In a sense, Jesus was kind of like God's avatar- or an ambassador. He represented God, He is God, yet He was in a physical form so He could interact with man.

2007-12-15 18:33:16 · answer #5 · answered by Dawn C 5 · 0 2

Because of the trinity. The father, son, and holy ghost. Jesus is God in human form. So that's the reason people say Jesus is God.

2007-12-16 01:05:23 · answer #6 · answered by Superstar Mentality 1 · 0 1

Jesus did not say he was not good he challenged the man who only thought of him as a "good teacher" to think. Jesus asked, "why do you call me good, there is none good but God?" The man was compelled to conclude 1 of 2 things; either Jesus was not good, or He was God hence the further on reference to the richman finding it hard to find salvation. 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

2016-05-24 04:14:54 · answer #7 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

Jesus is one of the trilogy's.
God is divided into 3 : Jesus, God, and the holy spirit. They are all one being. It is hard to understand, since we say that Jesus was the son of God. But in reality, they are the same being.

The holy spirit resides in us, whether we believe in God or not, whether we worship the devil, or multiple gods. The holy spirit is stronger in some than in others. For example, if you have done something bad, you get this feeling that you have done something bad. That is your holy spirit acknowledging that what you have done is a sin, and that you need to ask for forgiveness to get that sin of your chest. Many people have sinned so much, and they have all this buildup inside of them, from all their horrible doings. How else are you going to release it? Jesus died for you so that you could repent, and be free or your sins. No wonder Christians are so calm, huh?

2007-12-15 18:21:28 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Mystery of the Trinity. May I suggest that you read the Athanasian Creed as well as the Nicene Creed.

2007-12-15 18:17:36 · answer #9 · answered by Indy Indy Indy!!!! 4 · 0 2

You have identified one of Christianity's many paradoxes.

2007-12-15 18:16:21 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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