What is the proof there was a jesus?

Question

I got alot of responses in a previous Q that there is proof there was a man named jesus who preached 2000 years ago. I know of two Roman documents that have been widely disproved. So believers what else is there.
Oh and non-believers feel free to say none. Most likely I won't get an legit answers so I'll pick one of those as best answer. (At least I'm honest right)

lildago - I did not know you loved me. but now that I do we'll have to talk more.

Anyone who included Josephus discredited the rest of the sources. Oh and christian websites don't count as proof.

Answer 1

Are you talking about Tacitus (55-117ad) and Suetonius (70-160ad)? or How about Josephus? or What about Thallus (50-75AD) or:
Letter from Pliny the Younger to Trajan (c. 110)
Tacitus (Annals, c.115-120)
A fragment of Tacitus, with implications for the existence of the "Nazarene" Suetonius (Lives of the Caesars, c. 125)
Lucian (mid-2nd century)
Galen (c.150; De pulsuum differentiis 2.4; 3.3)
Celsus (True Discourse, c.170).
Mara Bar Serapion (pre-200?)
Talmudic References( written after 300 CE, but some refs probably go back to eyewitnesses)

Even Buddhism and Muslem Teachings refer to Jesus...if you only know of 2 Roman documents...try doing more research...

Do not think we Christians follow something blindly....I don't know why you have a concern to try and prove Christians who believe in a God of mercy and forgiveness that their God does not exist...of what threat are we to you? If it bothers you so much that I hold to fundamental teachings that may or may not hold that certain acts of humanity are sin, why should what I believe offend you so much? Christianity is not a religion of hate and judgment and those who preach that have a skewed sense of who God is. Christianity is about relationship with a God who is gracious and merciful, and God on love and compassion, a God who wants to improve our human existence and not destroy it and about how humanity is to live in relationship with each other -- in peace, love, blessing, and not in hatred and violence.

Answer 2

"We have a good deal of information about the polemical and often bitter arguments Christians, Jews, and pagans had with one another in the early centuries. But the early Christians' opponents all accepted that Jesus existed, taught, had disciples, worked miracles, and was put to death on a Roman cross. As in our own day, debate and disagreement centred largely not on the story but on the significance of Jesus.

"Today nearly all historians, whether Christians or not, accept that Jesus existed and that the gospels contain plenty of valuable evidence which has to be weighed and assessed critically. There is general agreement that with the possible exception of Paul, we know far more about Jesus of Nazareth than about any first- or second-century Jewish or pagan religious teacher."

Josephus (Antiquities of the Jews, c.93)
"It would be unwise, therefore, to lean heavily on Josephus' statements about Jesus' healing and teaching activity, or the circumstances of his trial. Nevertheless, since most of those who know the evidence agree that he said something about Jesus, one is probably entitled to cite him as independent evidence that Jesus actually lived, if such evidence were needed. But that much is already given in Josephus' reference to James (Ant. 20.200) and most historians agree that Jesus' existence is the only adequate explanation of the many independent traditions among the NT writings."

Letter from Pliny the Younger to Trajan (c. 110)
Tacitus (Annals, c.115-120)
A fragment of Tacitus, with implications for the existence of the "Nazarene"
Suetonius (Lives of the Caesars, c. 125)
Lucian (mid-2nd century)
Galen (c.150; De pulsuum differentiis 2.4; 3.3)
Celsus (True Discourse, c.170).
Mara Bar Serapion (pre-200?)
Talmudic References( written after 300 CE, but some refs probably go back to eyewitnesses)

Answer 3

The web and the library are full of articles and books that provide the answer you seek. (Perhaps your query isn't all that sincere?)

Here's one example:http://www.leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/docs/rediscover2.html

Summarizing (and plagiarizing):

The Gospels can be considered to be accurate because:

1. There was insufficient time for legendary influences to expunge the historical facts.
2. The gospels are not analogous to folk tales or contemporary "urban legends."
3. The Jewish transmission of sacred traditions was highly developed and reliable.
4. There were significant restraints on the embellishment of traditions about Jesus, such as the presence of eyewitnesses and the apostles’ supervision.
5. The Gospel writers have a proven track record of historical reliability.

It is a certainty that there was a historical Jesus. No educated person questions this; this debate was ended years ago. The only possible way that someone could still doubt that Jesus lived would be if they were ignorant of the facts or were biased against even admitting that a man with the name Jesus lived.

Answer 4

How do you proof to your satisfaction that any historical person existed if your not going believe the written records of people that were there and seen them??
And Roman documents have not been disproved at all! The scribes had not more interest than a court stenographer would in a case. They just record what they seen and heard

Answer 5

You're absolutely right. I'm not going to waste my time giving you a legitimate answer. I needed to read something amusing , so I read this rant. Oh, and the Roman documents you mentioned? I'm not sure which ones you were referring to, but the ones I read DID mention Jesus by name. Also, my best friend (who holds a Ph.D in History) told me to remind people who ask these kinds of questions just how illiterate they really are for parroting around assertions just because others do so, and that history should be left to the experts like himself - not amateurs like you. Well, it's bed-time, so, - yaaawwwwnnnn....thanks for the two points. Yea, yea. It's been real. ( not really).

Answer 6

John 3:16 and as a matter of fact the Old Testament has serveral Hundred prophecies about jesus and the New Testament is the fullfillment of that Jesus fullfilled over 300 prophecies from the Old Testament. The odds of that is 1 with 125 ZEROS behind it. Bet on that nonbeleiver. Theres the truth but i guess that is factual enough either. No matter how plain the truth is or how its in your face your blind

Answer 7

The Holy Spirit. Jesus said that the Comforter, the Counselor would come because He wasn't going to be on Earth until later. That's is John 15 and 16.

God is a genius, and He only gives the Holy Spirit to those who trust Him. He even picks the one's who trust Him. That's what Romans 9 is about.

Answer 8

The Koran, holy book of Islam, acknowledges that Jesus Christ was a prophet though they consider Muhammed the ultimate prophet, and the Jews believe that Jesus was a prophet, although they do not acknowledge Him as the Saviour.
Pray to God, and ask Him.

Answer 9

From the tone of your statement, it would seem that you already made up your mind and do not want to be confused by the facts.

Answer 10

What is the proof there was a ALLAH or a BUDAH or MUHAMMAD?? There will never be a specific answer . Who could say that was there when God created Adam and Eve??? No one ???