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As a typical Christian with no respect to atheists, my mother is SURE that I will become an instant believer when I one day have children of my own. That the 'miracle' of birth could *only* be because of some divine deity.

How do I respond to her showing that her argument is flawed?

2007-12-15 09:12:48 · 26 answers · asked by Beletje_vos AM + VT 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Dark Ohioan Pedigreed, ALL babies are born atheist. (I just stayed as such.)

Should all those babies be abandoned then?

2007-12-15 09:31:24 · update #1

26 answers

If giving birth is proof of God, then crack babies or those born in starving nations without any hope of survival would be proof of God's indifference.

You can't put a miracle up on the deity scoreboard without also putting up his stats for the circumstances.

2007-12-15 09:16:28 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 8 1

There are probably a number of good was to respond to this, but if your mother has no respect for atheists, I don't know how far they'll go. All I can tell you is that I was a raised as a christian, and the birth of my children was not some stunning revelation to confirm those beliefs. In fact, it was quite the opposite. Seeing my child come into this world, knowing that she depended on me to do what was in her best interest, it really made me question what I believed. (Before anyone jumps to conclusions, there were no complications to invoke my anger). Maybe it's different for a woman, but since the mother of my children is also an atheist, I don't believe it is.

2007-12-15 09:44:59 · answer #2 · answered by Recreant- father of fairies 4 · 2 0

On an emotional level, she has a bit of a point, although not the one she's making: Having a baby is an emotional, exhausting event, and many parents say it's the best thing that ever happened to them. From a conversion point of view, what's better than an emotionally exhausted person who just had something great happen? It's a good thing hospitals restrict visitors, or there'd be vultures for Christ chilling in maternity wards.

I think countering the argument simply requires pointing out the number of atheist parents.

2007-12-15 09:46:08 · answer #3 · answered by Doc Occam 7 · 2 0

Some people confuse nature with being that of 'God', in which God is used for things you do not understand.

The human body is made to reproduce (especially the female) - and so, giving birth and raising children is a natural process. Nothing to do with 'God' at all. As all living creatures do this - reproduce.

The same with the human body able to maintain itself, through self healing. It is not a miracle of God.
All living creatures possess this ability, within some limits.

2007-12-15 09:25:35 · answer #4 · answered by TruthBox 5 · 3 0

i don't understand why you will ask this question in case you have already got your answer. there's no evidence God exists exterior of the Bible. in certainty, there is not even any evidence Jesus became into genuine or died on the go. No information. not something. people would say that the Bible has had Kings in there that we as quickly as concept fake, yet later got here upon real (david, solomon), yet this does not instruct something, as a results of fact the Bible became into written years in the past and lower back then they knew those kings nicely and clearly used them to make the Bible extra "actual". a million) not something. there is ONE e book available written by using some jewish guy that mentions Jesus, yet do not you think of if he became into genuine and did magic like that and raised from the lifeless along with his zombie minions people would have recorded it? Or did God vaporize the information to make us could have self assurance blindly. 2) that may not evidence in any case 3) good luck in this one 4) You nailed it. the only people i've got ever generic to declare experience his presence are the main brainwashed of the lot. lots of the youngsters in my childrens team as a youngster agreed there became into no presence of God. 5) you could't use the enormous Bang or Evolution from now on than you could the Bible. None of it extremely is shown real. organic decision is genuine, yet macro evolution has no genuine data that no you could deny. Is it genuine? in all probability. 6) I trust this one. If it wasn't like it became into, we does not be right here.

2016-10-11 08:53:35 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

While birth is, in its own way, a miracle, it doesn't show proof of God at all. It might very well show proof of Hera instead, or proof of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Ask you mom this:

If birth is proof of God specifically, why are there still so many people of other religions out there who have children, and find them an affirmation of those *other* faiths?

2007-12-15 09:17:28 · answer #6 · answered by shiariryu 5 · 4 1

Why would you want to argue with your mother over this. Let her believe as she wants. That is the miracle of being a respectful child. If she hasn't figured out yet how ridiculous her statement is, you are not going to change her.

2007-12-15 11:15:30 · answer #7 · answered by Fred 7 · 1 1

Actually her reasoning is surprisingly good. It's not so much "the miracle of birth", since I assume you already understand how that happens, and you're aware there's no "god" involved. But it's very possible that one of the things that makes people frantic to avoid accepting the truth about death is the knowledge that we will one day permanently lose contact with our loved ones, including our own parents and children.

Now I wouldn't expect that an atheist would fall for that, but someone who hadn't given it much thought might well be swayed by it.

In one of his books - I don't remember now which, Arthur Clarke wrote about an alien race's space probe traveling through our solar system. We contacted it, and it was able to converse with us, and give us information about other races it had contacted. One of the things it told us was that only races that give live birth to their children (as opposed to laying eggs etc.) had the concept of "gods".

2007-12-15 09:20:43 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

You don't, anyone with common sense can see that that argument is flawed. To her giving birth is so amazing. To me, nature is amazing. Neither prove that there is a god.

2007-12-15 09:17:12 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

I've heard the "having a baby makes you religious" argument before.

2007-12-15 09:16:17 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

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