Atheists. How does our reality come from matter and how could it accidental be put together from nothing?

Question

How does our reality come from matter and how could it accidental be put together from nothing?
How stupid could someone be to say that no one created reality and it just happend.
Their is so much complexity even in a partical at quantum level.

Why would someone act so stubborn and loaded with pride that they could think this in today's age.

It takes a mind far more powerful than a human to create a reality like this.

Reality is far more complicated than a car yet would if I told you evolution made my car.

People say after billions of years we formed from nothing with no plan or thought. After this time reality of ourself was present.
And the planets just happened to protect the earth, we just happened to have a sun at day with a moon at night, the earth a perfect distance from the sun, rotating, plant for healing fruit to eat, vegtables to eat, feeling built in us , on and on and on

Yet all some can due is say whats wrong with the world. How about whats right.

Do you notice that no one answered my question.

This is why atheists dont have facts.

Shouldent they keep their mouth shut if they cant answer.

IF GOD cant exist from nothing than nether can we. We do exist. so if we do exist god exist.

If we created our selves then we wouldent last long.

Moose you are sick

Answer 1

I'm not a quantum physicist, that much is certain, but I do understand the argument that complexity doesn't imply intelligent design. Just because something seems beyond our explanation doesn't mean that the answer isn't deceptively simple. We'll know one day.

Answer 2

You seem rather certain that we 'came from nothing' and that 'it was an accident'. We may never know for sure what started this universe (maybe it has been here all the time) or what started life here on earth but I doubt if it was 'made' for us. We evolved into it. Complexity does not mean intelligent design. If evolution is true, and I know it is, we did not start out as complex organisms. Life adapted, as it still does, evolves, flourishes and then dies. There is no magical sky daddy waving it's hand and controlling reality. Your logic is weak and your argument lack merit since the same restrictions you demand suddenly do not apply to your solution, god. How convenient that is.

Answer 3

OK, back up and reconsider your point about the car and where cars came from. Some primitive in the dim past figured out how to use a rolling wheel under a load. I doubt if he could have imagined a modern car. Later somebody figured how to hook an animal to a cart and make the animal pull it around. I doubt if they could have imagined a modern truck or train.
Do you understand the problem with your argument yet. Nobody designed the complexity of a modern car. In fact great complexity is an argument against there being a designer instead of evidence for one.
The job of a designer is to reduce, not to increase complexity.

A perfect designer would have created a universe with the minimum instead of the maximum number of extra parts. Ideally no moving parts if possible.
The Universe has many "extra" parts.

Answer 4

Yes you are right, in fact, there is so much complexity, that if there was a creator, he would have to be far more complex than any of his creations; which brings to mind, what could possibly create something as complex as god? In your logic, something with as astounding complexity as god would also need an even higher intelligence of higher complexity to create him;, and so on; infinite regression defeats your argument.


We did not form from nothing, first life formed when elements bonded into amino acids and those bonded to create even more complex molecules, and so on.

The fact that the conditions are so perfect for life on earth is precisely the reason you are here to discuss it. The odds of such a planet with absolutely perfect circumstances for life to arise are indeed astronomically small, but there are at least 50 billion planets in Milky Way alone, so it was bound to happen somewhere, and it happened to this particular planet which is precisely why you are alive on THIS planet, and not Venus, or a planet orbiting Alpha Centauri.

And the fact the we harmonize so seemingly perfectly with other life on this planet is because natural selection eventually causes all life to conform to other life, thereby the selfish genes preserving themselves.

Answer 5

Complexity begets complexity.

Your god is as, or more, complex than his creation. If matter cannot spontaneously erupt from nothing then neither can god who, as I said, is even more complex than the universe. Where did god come from? Or do you only take your logic as far as it suits you?

Besides, what makes you think that there was a beginning?

"And the planets just happened to protect the earth, we just happened to have a sun at day with a moon at night, the earth a perfect distance from the sun, rotating, plant for healing fruit to eat, vegtables to eat, feeling built in us , on and on and on"

The universe has not been made for us, you silly fool. We have adpated to it. Comments like yours always remind me of this Douglas Adams piece:


" This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, it's still frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise."

-Douglas Adams

There is so much wrong with your question, but I'm sure others will point it out for you..



EDIT: Look, you silly man, I answered your question. The problem is that you're question is a convoluted mess. First of all, it's apparent that you aren't even aware that the theory of evolution is a biological theory, not a cosmological one. A basic understanding of what you're arguing against would do wonders for your cause. Until then, get a clue.

Answer 6

no matter what you believe, something complex comes from nothing. God is complex. Where did God come from? We can't explain it either. If everything had to be created by something, then God has to have been created as well. That is why this argument isn't a great one.


In a way evolution did make the car. not biological evolution, but technological evolution. the car didn't happen over night. it took a lot of inventions before it. it took someone inventing fire, the wheel, metallurgy, and other technological advances. this is a form of evolution. technology evolves, as do plants and animals. don't think that evolution negates creative design. who knows how God created everything? nobody. it could have been evolution. instead of fighting evolution, you should embrace it. think of it as a better explanation of how God works. think of it as a little insight into the workings of God.

Answer 7

Our realities are obviously two completely different things, based on your wording and chain of thoughts. If you take a look around on a more cosmic level, you just may see that there are hundreds of thousands of planets in our solar system that may be able to harbor life as we know it(we just haven't detected it yet.)

You state that it takes stupidity to not realize that we had to have been created because we are complex. However, we non-bible-people retort that complexity itself is not necessarily design. We take for instance snow, in the capacity that we know that it is flakes of frozen water. Under the microscope, man-made snow is just as beautiful and complex as natural snow. We also understand that these flakes of snow were not designed to be intricate or pretty, they were just frozen water.

As far as technology goes, we know that your car didn't evolve from hunks of metal randomly. Cars are designed by people and put together in factories. Animals are not. They live, breed and die. They select the mates that will give their children the best chance to live and be successful. This causes animals (and people) to get stronger, faster, more intelligent, and even to obtain new abilities and traits (such as opposable thumbs.)

Yes, we have food to eat. If we didn't have the same food as we do now, lifeforms would have learned to eat something else and call IT food. That's called adaptation. Happens a lot. It's part of evolution.

With all of the trillions of untold star/planet/moon combinations out there, is there any reason to think that one of those combinations could have just happend to be right enough to harbor life that advanced for thousands and thousands of years to get to the point where it is today?

Some people feel the need to feel special, because thus far we are alone in the universe. Who are you to say that we are? The cold, unfeeling vastness of the void does not care or even acknowledge that we are here, and there is not a god in sight that does, either.

"Wow, all of this stuff works together! It must have been designed!" isn't a valid argument, because frankly, it was work together, or die out, and many species HAVE died out as a result. What's left is what works.

Why would you be so stubborn as to vehemently deny what is right in front of you?

Answer 8

how is it that some guy sitting up in the clouds somewhere controls every life in the entire world and watches over billions of people?believers have a Santa clause complex.

evolution doesn't happen accidentally it happens for a purpose which is to better adapt and live in an environment

EDIT: you have no logical defence, your being silly and need to take high school biology.

Answer 9

I have no clue as to the origin of the universe, it's not why I'm an atheist

Out of interest though if you think that something can't come from nothing then who created your god.

Answer 10

This sounds extra like a theology post than a physics post. it is all approximately your person very own ideals. it is no longer the situation of technological know-how to characterize ideals. The place of technological know-how is to characterize observations and to objective to comprehend them. Whichever faith you ensue to discover with, there's a bounce of religion you ought to soak up order to embody that faith. you could desire to believe in something devoid of the desire for it to be shown to you. technological know-how isn't approximately believing in something it is devoid of information. it is approximately watching, and getting to grasp. Forgive me if i'm incorrect, yet the place does the great bang concept point out god? Or the different concept? this is skinny ice, and remember till now you're making comments like this that there are a number of, many faiths with many diverse concepts of ways it went down. who's to declare in basic terms certainly one of them has it correct?