Global warming or overpopulation?

Question

Your honest opinion, which is killing the animals off,
Global warming or Overpopulation of both human and animals.
your reasoning?

Answer 1

Not only Climate change or Global Warming is affecting animal populations ,Man is greatly responsible

Also The climatic changes are not 100% Natural any more ,we add a lot to it with desertification ,because of irresponsible agriculture,

Over grazing and over pumping subterranean water supplies as well as deforestation and pollution.

LOSS OF HABITAT +CLIMATE CHANGE=EXTINCTION

Of the earth's estimated 10 million species, 300,000 have vanished in the past 50 years. each years, 3,000 to 30,000 species become extinct.

A lot of human activity is speeding that up since we tend to overpower all the other species in one way or another.

Some reasons why animals are being wiped out ,in the forests are:

The hunting of exotic species for the consumer market
only about 10% of the animals caught survive

The hunting of animals for food by settlers

Forrest fires ,that have started because of slash and burning of forest ,to clear the land for farming, had gotten out of control

The loss of Habitat because the conditions have changed ,e.g less humidity because of surrounding farmlands ,or over pumping of rivers for human use(farming and utility)

Because of contamination of the waters ,

Expanding populations and expanding farming ,that has to keep pace with the expanding populations are very strong forces that encroach upon the rainforest's
clearing them for farming and settlement areas .

In Mexico is a famous jungle that the Media has been trying to save for years
the Naturalists ,and the government ,keep watch .laws are made for protection the wild and to forbid logging.
TV put out a series of documentaries
there are campaigns in the News papers
and all of this has not made the slightest difference

Rainforest's always are in third world countries and always in third world countries corruption and the need for money s highest

The jungle gets smaller by the day
more and more farmers move in .and burn the trees
It is an impossible situation
as long as there is poverty in these regions the destruction will continue

And the Animals will continue to be trapped ,as long as people keep buying the exotic animals

we must look for ways to improve economic situations on the edges of Nature .

The only way to preserve the forest is to develop eco tourism under strict control that has limited access ,and use the local people in the concept as guides ,hotel staff and get them to start home industries of artifacts .

Eco tourism is the only concept that profits by a healthy back ground with out harming it
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Trees are coming down all the time ,
in My town trucks loaded with huge logs of exotic timber leave the mountains with permits bought from corrupt oficials almost nightly

We can only guess at the exact amount but from my house we can see many bare patches on the mountains and the river is constantly muddy in the last 3 years ,because topsoils, without the protection of the forests , is washed into the rivers ,

This is just one place and this is happening all over Mexico ,the Market for the wood being the USA.

The Indians or local people would cut everything down and burn the forest to replace it with harmful short term farming killing the soil in no time

IN THE PAST
the Sahara used to be forests
Arabia ,Iraq ,Iran used to be fertile lands in biblical times
Ghengas Kahn burned all the forests here and filled the well with water and so turning vast lands into dessert.
the Spanish Armada deforested Spain
.the Phoenician fleet deforested Lebanon

Madagascar a botanic paradise is now destroyed
the exotic animals sold or killed ,the forest slash and burned for agriculture ,the coastal water polluted by topsoils washed from the denuded mountains by the rains.

Many countries in Africa (because of poverty and war as well as greedy farming )

Borneo
India ,China ,Mexico ,South Americas Amazon,Mato Grosso
because of the expensive timber,and expanding `populations
Europe because of civilization,USA,Japan because of overpopulation,

And now the quest for ethanol the bio-.gas is beginning to destroy more than anything else has in the past
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CLIMATE CHANGE


Changes in Climate is affecting micro biological life and
the biggest changes so far are invisible at microscopic levels
many species are going extinct ,whilst others are becoming invasive.

This in turn affect everything that follows

the insects that live of that and then everything that depends on insects of both flora and fauna

vital links in the food chains are disappearing affecting other species further along in the chain

90% of the feral (wild) bee population in the United States has died out.

Recent studies in the United Kingdom and the Netherlands have shown that bee diversity is down 80 percent in the sites researched, and that "bee species are declining or have become extinct in Britain." The studies also revealed that the numbers of wildflowers that depend on pollination have dropped by 70 percent.

If bees continue to die off so would the crops they support and with that would ensue major economic disruption and possibly famine.

Bees are not the only pollinators but if these things are happening to bees we can bet on it that other insects are also in trouble ,on top of this many people are spraying for mosquito`s ,with drastic effects .

So much follows the insects in the food chains ,that we can expect a lot of very bad changes in the environment .

And now many animals are becoming sick because of changes in temperature ,

Only time will tell what is in store for us ,and that time is running now .

Everything is happening so fast it is not possible to monitor events any more
Source(s)
read a planet under stress ,plan B --by Lester E Brown.
it is in an Adobe print out as well on the net.

Answer 2

Global warming.

The concern with overpopulation isn't unfounded--but it's based mostly on some popular misconceptions.

The first--and most important--is that the world population is/will continue to increase without limit. In fact, all the evidence points to the opposite conclusion. Current estimates point to a slowing of population growth and eventual stabilization at around 11 billion by the end of the 21st century. nor is this simply a stistical analysis--whe know why this is happening: as more and more countries industrialize, the rate of population growth falls--people have better birth control, the need for more education in an industrial economy prompts people to delay marriage/child-bearing, plus other factors.

Second--mush (most, in fact) of the environmental losses not due to global warming/climate change are due not to high demand for resources but to poor resource management. For example, it's cheaper and profitable to strip-mine or clear-cut forests. The same resources could be obtained with far less envirionmental impact--but that would cut profits (in the short run--in the long run sound management is more profitable. But you can't make a "quick buck" that way--you have to work for it).

Third--there is the idea out there that pollution, CO2 emissions, etc. will increase in direct proportion to population growth. Now, if this happens, we are indeed in deep sh*t trouble. However, the problem is NOT how much energy we use--it is how that energy is produced. We can--ahd hopefully will--start a major shift away from fossil fuels and to things like solar and wind poer. The amount of enrgy we could have from jsut those sources, even with existing technology (what's coming down the pipeline is MUCH better) could produce 10 times as much energy as the whole world uses now--with zeroenvironmental damage.

PUt these three points together, ad what you have is a different picture: IF we coninue to rely on existing policy and technology, then yes, overpopulation is ging to push us over the edge into a cataclysm of unparalleled magnitude. However, if we start adopting efficientresource management and energy use policies, and alternative energy technologies, there is no reason whatsoever why we can't sustain that 11 billion stable population for an indefinate period.

Answer 3

Neither one is. There is less wild places because of human expansion. Some animals will be displaced or killed. Global warming isn't killing anything. It might be a concern in the future but we don't even amount to a single degree of human caused increase. That cannot destroy any environment. You should not listen to the misinformation from the Global Warming Doomsday Cult.

Answer 4

Overpopulation is why there's enough people on the Earth for global warming to be a problem.

Answer 5

I agree that overpopulation killing is the affecting the main bulk of animals. It is a quicker killing than global warming, and is actively done by humans today.

As for global warming, I'd say it would affect most of the animals to the extent of killing them only in the long run.

Answer 6

It is not a popular battle for politicians and few people are concerned about humanity as a whole ,let alone the planet. People get get very nervous when you go below the belt Mans sexuality and very often how many kids hes got is proof of his masculinity and insurance for old age with many possible incomes to assist him when he himself cannot work any more the second point is HOW do we ethically control populations poor areas with less education DEMONSTRATE THE HIGHEST NUMBERS OF TEEN AGE PREGNANCIES, educated women have less children But uneducated populations are more religious and more resistant to birth control. to forcibly control populations is frowned upon to say the least So it is being done in sneaky ways In the Netherlands after the war families were encouraged to have few children because it is such a small country not much bigger than Mexico city, so it was physically impossible to fit a lot of people into the country ,There people can understand the concept of birth control, But in larger countries many think like rabbits and think only of the family ,not the society as a whole what happens if the country is full wage war and kill everybody in another place to invade and settle there ,that would be the natural solution In the past conquering countries encouraged the people to have many kids to be used as cannon fodder or settling farmers needed many sons to provide labor, one would have thought that we had progressed from that But judging by the answers, many still cling to the old self centered or invasive philosophies NATURES POINT OF VIEW In Nature exists such a thing as the law of Harmony and Equilibrium Some Native peoples have always been aware of this to limit the tribes number to as many as the tribe can afford to feed The Central Americans sacrificed the excess children,the earlier ones like the Olmec practiced birth control Amazonian tribes have strict sexual rites that limit copulation in the conventional way. Animals have lots of young when there is plenty of food ,and have little or none when the conditions are bad when there is a plague of rabbits ,many foxes are born, when there is no game lions ,and other predators have few cubs. plants do roughly the same All follow the LAW OF NATURE OF EQUILIBRIUM everybody is welcome ,but nobody in excess. we must co-exist on this planet and limit our numbers to our resources All of Nature obeys these LAWS,but Humans put themselves above the LAW,and have bred themselves into a plague It is a miracle that Nature has allowed us to get this far. everything else is set upon by plagues ,disease or predators ,when they exceed their allotted quantity,or there are Natural disasters . There are two moments in the existence of a specie when extinction is likely, when there are two few And when there are too many. Maybe Gaia is trying to tell us something with Global Warming Humanity should listen and beware we are part of the same Eco systems and subject to the same LAWS whether we like it or believe it or not

Answer 7

Overpopulation and lack of respect for nature are the big issues. The effect of global warming is insignificant to populations at this time. Hunting to extinction is not insignificant.

Answer 8

BOTH. global warming changes the natural cycle thus making it hard for animals to adjust. overpopulation consumes too much so they contribute as well

Answer 9

no one wants to volunteer to Die,is Genocide in Sudan Good?

Its real purpose is a Global Carbon Tax $12 a Gallon gas

UN scientists urge carbon tax to fight global warming
Source: Guardian Unlimited
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All sources of carbon pollution - from flights to inefficient light bulbs - must become more expensive if the world is to tackle global warming, an influential panel of scientists and government officials will say today.

Putting a price on harmful emissions from goods and services would require a fundamental shift in the world's economy, but "could realise significant mitigation potential in all sectors" according to a report from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

The report will be launched today in Valencia by Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary general, and marks the start of an international effort to agree a worldwide treaty to regulate greenhouse gas output.

The IPCC, which won this year's Nobel peace prize jointly with Al Gore, will confirm it is 90% sure that recent global warming is down to human activity, and warn that the impact of future temperature rise will be severe. It will say action to cut emissions is needed in the coming decades to stop global temperatures rising by as much as 6C by 2100, and that most of the technology needed already exists. Even deep cuts in carbon production would have only a marginal effect on economic growth, the IPCC will say.

Answer 10

Well, since global warming is not real, overpopulation is the biggest killer of animals. and not neccasarily overpopulation, but the cutting down of the rainforests.

Answer 11

May I bring a bit of reason to the argument? Despite what you have been told, the world is not overpopulated. As has already been proven, if you took the entire population of the world and divided it up into families of 4, then moved them all into three bedroom houses built on 50x100 foot lots, it would take up less space than the State of Texas. Now I am not recommending that that is what we should do, but it gives you a better sense of scale.

As far as "species" of animals going extinct, well, we do not even know every species of animal on the earth. Besides the entire concept of "species" is a man made concept. Nature does not care about species.

Millions of species came and went before man ever even existed. Millions more will come and go as well. That is nature's way. A species can either adapt to current conditions or it goes extinct. No tears, no lamenting. Mother Nature simply draws a line through that species name and that is that.

Another thing we need to keep in mind is that man is part of nature as well. We do what we do because that is what nature designed us to do. Beavers build dams. This slows the flow and increases the depth of the water. For species that rely on fast moving shallow water this means death. For species that require slow moving deep water it means life. To the beaver it does not matter either way. He needs the dam so he builds the dam.

Man build things, too. It is natural for us to build, to change the environment to suit us. To modify and change things. That is our purpose. It seems obvious, that nature has put an awful lot of effort into making man the creature at the top of the food chain. It seems nature wants to insure that life does not perish. Any species that is good at survival is good for natures plan.

One day, life will probably leave the confines of this planet and colonize other worlds. The only species capable of pulling that off is man. I bet that is what nature wants life to do. When that happens, nature will not have all of its eggs in one basket anymore.

One thing we see all throughout the history of earth since time began is change. We have to stop trying to preserve species that have overstayed their welcome on this planet. For useless species, incapable of adapting to be kept going is really unnatural. We are screwing with the natural order of things by preserving manatees if you ask me.

You must also keep in mind that there are also people with ulterior motives, such as Socialists, that use the environmental movement to advance their agenda, too. They use it all the time to bypass the Constitutional safeguards that protect our rights such as private property rights. They continuously set up one straw-man after another until they have everyone willing to surrender another little slice of freedom to the State. You are being sold a bill of goods by power-hungry control freaks, who want to dictate policy and stifle all descent, in my humble opinion.

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