Evidence for intelligent design please!?

Question

I'm speaking now of our beloved concept "irreducible complexity".

Please find me an example of irreducible complexity that has not already been disproven by legitimate scientists.

I'll do you the favor of pointing out that bacterial flagellum, wings and eyes have already been disproven so you don't have to waste keystrokes on them.

Hmm "look out the window"? That's an anecdotal argument for the existence of God, not tangible evidence for intelligent design.

Answer 1

I'm certainly seeing the kind of inane dribble I expected...."look out the window"...? WTF....and did you actually use a movie as "evidence"...lol!!
Love the one about "my tax dollars"....lol....god forbid those taxes be used to look for the truth as an aid to stuff like medical research.....go back to your faith healer genius.

I was hoping to be surprised and maybe have to work through something difficult......oh well.

**EDIT**
No wonder these guys are so confused about science. When someone asks for evidence, try to come up with something that might NOT come out of the mouth of a 5 year old. "I like flowers, and flowers exist, so god must have made flowers for me to enjoy....." Seriously, at least try to come up with some reason for your god to exist that doesn't revolve around your own conceit (created in his image....) or fear of the unknown (what happens when we die?....)

Answer 2

There was a really good DVD out called unlocking the mysteries of life. Its a short documentary of the research a scientist did on the bacterium Flagella or in other words the little rotating tail that propels a bacteria along. the guy who did the research was once an evolutionist. then he studies the ecoli bacteria. He put it under a very powerful microscope and saw that the flagella had all the parts of an engine, with cogs and rods. He concluded that for this tiny bacteria to evolve it would have meant all those rods and cogs to evolve all at the same time. this he said was impossible and therefore concluded that the bacterium flagella had to have been intelligently designed. due to this research lots of scientists are now agreeing that life had to have been designed. However these scientists are unwilling to say what they think actually designed life. all very interesting and if you can get hold of it its a really good dvd

Answer 3

You are being too generous. Equating lack of evidence with evidence of absence is the basic logical fallacy of ID. Even if there were no evidence left in the sparse fossil record of the intermediate forms required for the incremental evolution of a complex structure, that does not equate to evidence of absence of such forms. Assuming that it does, as cdesign proponentists do, they need only jump lazily from one complex structure to another and demand explanations. Waddabout the eye? (explained). Waddabout the flagellum? (explained). Wadda about the immune system? (explained). Waddabout the big nose on that monkey? (Well, we haven't really studied ...) Ah ha!!! that's evidence of ID. By this standard, ID can never be falsified because there are an infinite number of things that would need explaining to do so. Real evidence of ID would be if the Designer showed up in person for all to see and explained how he did it. Science is about reproducibility, so dead guys from 2000 years ago don't count. Neither is claiming to be imparted with direct knowledge by the touch of His Noodly Appendage.

Answer 4

There is no really "evidence" that we can provide to you....nothing OBJECTIVE anyways. Some people we see objects as something that must have been created. Others will see its existence as a product of nature or evolution. In the end, the interpretation is very SUBJECTIVE. Think about constellations. These are stars that are literally billions of light years appart from each other and have no real relationship to each other...yet people PROJECTED outlines and images on these stars to fit their own belief systems. The argument for intelligent design tends to be like this...people project the appears of intelligent design not due to any real evidence but because it is something that they WANT to believe.

Answer 5

Only "disproven" in your eyes and in the eyes of the other die-hard evolution believers.

I bet you haven't read any of Behe's responses:
http://www.trueorigin.org/behe08.asp
http://www.trueorigin.org/behe01.asp
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2007/11/behes_finished_response_to_mus.html

The four main areas the ID movement focuses on: Information Theory, Irreducible Complexity, The Anthropic Principle, and The Design Inference.

Here is a brief overview of the scientific case for ID: http://www.arn.org/docs/positivecasefordesign.pdf

And for those who put so much faith in peer-review, check this out: http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=2640&program=CSC%20-%20Scientific%20Research%20and%20Scholarship%20-%20Science

You should spend more time on their websites before you criticize:
http://www.arn.org
http://www.idthefuture.com
http://www.discovery.org
http://www.intelligentdesign.org

Answer 6

It is funny you bring up the bacteria flagellum because it is always a prime example for pro intelligent design activists. Too bad all scientists had to do was show that other parts of the bacteria were viable without all parts i.e. that it could have evolved over time.
There is no science to creation science. Not one person has been able to prove otherwise to any court.

Answer 7

Proof of Intelligent Design: How can a snake evolve to look some much like a penis? Unless you believe that looking like a penis is a natural advantage, you have to accept that someone design the snake. Someone who is probably like the kid on Superbad.

Answer 8

I think the research conducted for the Dover trials pretty much tore irreducible complexity to shreds.

Answer 9

If I were to tell you about the 2 invisible pixies that live in my light sockets and generate electricity by rubbing their wings together, so that every time I plug anything into those sockets, they run off of electricity....would you believe in my concept of "intelligent illumination"?????

I didn't think so...

Answer 10

Occam's Razor, eh?

We have plenty of evidence for "On the Origin of Species."

Evolution has been proven; the origin of life has not.

Intelligent Design is not science because it lacks falsifiability.