How could I explain to JWs that the Watchtower Society does not have the authority to promise?

Question

them a beautiful paradise on earth?

Light 4 blind: NO, it is the other way around. You do not know. God never makes such a promise. When you know the Word of God, you will see that it is the Watchotower Society who has given this lie out and you accept it.

Moises_Frias: I am not crazy and Jesus is not a liar.

You are right, the Watchtower Society does not have the authority to promise that. Jesus talks a lot more about hell than He talks about heaven. There is a reason for that.

Dana C: I agree that we need to accept His standards, but luckily we are saved by His grace and mercy. We cannot alter His message and submit to that though.

Answer 1

You can't. They're convinced they're right.

Answer 2

Hi Nina, I've noticed just today as I am curious to some of the questions here in YA - R & S, how you are searching for more answers about JW's. I've seen many of your questions geared towards them and I think it's great that a place exists here for people such as yourself to learn more :-)

That being said, I was shown from the Bible that Jehovah promises us a chance to live on paradise earth IF we choose to live by his standards. The promise is His, not man's.

Answer 3

Are you crazy or what?

It is not Watchtower that promise that, it is the bible that says that Jesus Chirst will do that as Jehovah decided in the begining... I mean seriously you are out of your mind , you are telling that Jesus is a liar....

Jesus said in Matthew 5:5 that the meek will inherit the earth.

Jesus will rule the earth according to Revelation 5:10.

And you are telling that is A LIE???!!! are you crazy?
how can you claim that you beleive in Jesus in you are denidying that Jesus has the power to make a paradise in earth?

I mean I really don´t understand ? I thought that Satan was using you... but now I see Jehovah is using you as contraexample for us to see how far of the purpose of God are people who claim that believe in Jesus but denied what will be his future duty.

Answer 4

As Fundamental-Evangelical Christian that holds strongly to the Holy Bible as its final authority in faith and in practice and never in the writings of men's commentaries, then this is the one and only explanation that the Watchtower Society does not have the authority to promise. Even evangelical fundamentalists. Theres only one authority and that authority is the Bible only. (2 Timothy 2:15)(2 Timothy 3:16-17) We never explain the Bible in the light of other things. Instead we explain all other things in the light of the Bible. We put the Bible above all things. Read your Bible honestly.

Answer 5

Since it appears that all Russellites have bought into the lie, which their leaders promulgate, that all Holy Scripture concerning only certain doctrines (i.e., the nature of God's covenantal promises of blessing and curses; the degree and extent to which God's character, and therefore His name(s), is revealed) regardless of its historical context, must be just as true for today as when it was written, I would say that any explanation given would be falling on deaf ears, unless the Holy Spirit would be pleased to cleanse their seared minds and legalistic hearts and instill in them the desire to reconsider the error of their ways.

They appear to have this spurious mechanical view of inspiration, as if there was really only one human writer, who was exclusively taking dictation, and doing it all in one sitting for all 66 books of the Bible! By the way, this is exactly the religious belief of the origins of the Vades (Hindu) scriptures, by its followers of the blue skinned god, Krishna. This is not what Biblical inspiration means, since it lacks in respect and takes little to no account for the space and time continuum in which inspiration by the Holy Spirit was given (the human, historical, linguistic, cultural, etc.). This is what the author of Hebrews means when he says, "Through the many prophets of old, through many diverse and sundry ways, God spoke to us....." (Hebrews 1:1-3).

But, inevitably, there are inconsistencies that one can point out to those in error in all extremely monolithic and rigid belief systems, as this particular one, because the character of humanity, which is in the image and a reflection of God's, won't stand for such in one's practice in all aspects of life, let alone the religious.

Here's just one of many of their contradictions to which they cannot help themselves from committing: It is clear from God's Word to us that anything in the New Covenant that is in anyway explicitly different (i.e., abrogates, succeeded by, superior to) from the Old Covenant is to be adhered to; and, therefore, no longer to adhere to what that topical description and/or stipulation was from the Old Covenant. If they still believe in the Old Covenant blessings of obedience (i.e., God promises inheritance of the land and/or the earth, and not the kingdom of Christ, the church, while on this side of the grave, and Heaven on the other side for all), then why don't Russellites also observe all the ceremonial and civil laws written down in the first 5 books of the Bible, in particular the Leviticus code?

Apparently, they do indeed see the logistics of a new and better covenant regarding the overwhelming majority of these OT stipulations meant only for Israel. But my question then is this, that being the case: Then why don't they see this also regarding His promises of eternal blessing for all those who believe and obey Him, and cursing for those who don't, Jew and Gentile alike? It just doesn't make any good spiritual sense, let alone knowing that there is absolutely nowhere in the NT epistles do the authors speak of an earthly paradise! And, all the references in the OT apocalyptic literature, such as Isaiah 65-66, and the NT, such as in Revelation 21, are to be understood as being metaphorical in nature, not literal.

Why is this so? Doesn't metaphorical language steal away the beauty and spectacular nature of that which is to come, if it's not a literal fulfillment? No, in fact, it's just the opposite that is true! Because the things promised here are much greater than we could even consider, because "...what the eye has not seen, what the ear has not heard, and what the mind can even imagine is what God has prepared for those who love Him." (1 Corinthians 2:9) Seeing them being fulfilled in a literal, temporal sense just doesn't do justice to what was promised by God. It is also why the gospels are replete with Jesus' parabolic metaphors in His descriptions about the kingdom of God. Why else would He have taught His hearers in this manner? If it was as the Russellites say escatological things will be, then Jesus never would have spoken predominantly in metaphors. He would definitely have been more straightforward. Right?

Answer 6

They have already said enough prophecies and if they did not come to pass what can we believe from them.

Brief Summary of Watchtower dates:

•1872 Beginning of the millennium. Wrong! Watchtower publications later changed the date to 1975, another date in which it did not happen.

•1874 Christ's second coming. Nothing happened. The Bible says His second coming will be seen by all.

•1914 All world governments to be overthrown. God will glorify His people and govern the world.

•1915 When man's governments were not replaced by God's in 1914, the date was changed to 1915. The Watchtower Society later admitted these prophecies "had not been fulfilled."

•1918 End of Gentile times, the churches to be destroyed.

•1920 The mountains, republics, and kingdoms were to disappear.

•1925 The kingdom was to be established in Palestine. Faithful men of the Old Testament were to return. It was later admitted that this and the 1918 prediction were wrong.

•1929 A house was built for the return of the Old Testament faithful. It was sold in 1948 because they did not return.

•1932 The Watchtower stated that the date for the overthrow of Christendom had been moved up from 1925 (previously 1918) to 1932 and that the overthrow did not happen in 1932 either.

•1975 Since the Millennium had not begun in 1872, the date was changed to 1975. Again nothing happened.

Answer 7

True.

It's Jehovah doing the promising.

Isaiah 45:18- For this is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the true God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited: “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else"

Ps 37:11- But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.

Isaiah 35:5-7 At that time the eyes of the blind ones will be opened, and the very ears of the deaf ones will be unstopped. At that time the lame one will climb up just as a stag does, and the tongue of the speechless one will cry out in gladness. For in the wilderness waters will have burst out, and torrents in the desert plain. And the heat-parched ground will have become as a reedy pool, and the thirsty ground as springs of water. In the abiding place of jackals, a resting-place for them, there will be green grass with reeds and papyrus plants.

Isaiah 65: 21-25
“No more will there come to be a suckling a few days old from that place, neither an old man that does not fulfill his days; for one will die as a mere boy, although a hundred years of age; and as for the sinner, although a hundred years of age he will have evil called down upon him. And they will certainly build houses and have occupancy; and they will certainly plant vineyards and eat [their] fruitage. They will not build and someone else have occupancy; they will not plant and someone else do the eating. For like the days of a tree will the days of my people be; and the work of their own hands my chosen ones will use to the full. They will not toil for nothing, nor will they bring to birth for disturbance; because they are the offspring made up of the blessed ones of Jehovah, and their descendants with them. And it will actually occur that before they call out I myself shall answer; while they are yet speaking, I myself shall hear. "The wolf and the lamb themselves will feed as one, and the lion will eat straw just like the bull; and as for the serpent, his food will be dust. They will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain,” JEHOVAH HAS SAID.

There are loads of scriptures proving this promise to be true.

Answer 8

No need, we already know that it is Jehovah who gives us this promise. The Bible tells us this, and the Watchtower magazine just reminds us of that fact.

Answer 9

I really dont understand why you always going against JW's
If you are really interesting about JW;s go to the website i see you know the website
and the Watchtower is not the one promising is the bible Gods word

Answer 10

You don't know that much about JWs as you think you do.
JWs do not believe that the WT Society promises them eternal life on earth, but God through the Bible.

I mean, come on, who told you that?

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Answer 11

They have the same authority as any other religious authority or person on Earth!