Has anyone noticed a reoccurring theme with some of the anti abortion crowd? Rather than say the truth (that they want to spread religious ideology) we see them time and time again speak of moral and ethical reasons for their support of banning abortion. I cant think of any true Christian having an abortion (with or without a ban). One can only conclude that they are not satisfied with their own personal choices. They feel the need to force everyone else to conform to THEIR religious beliefs. The whole pro life debate has NOTHING what so ever to do with morals or ethics.
Ask yourself how moral or ethical it is to spend more money in support of a ban on abortion than the money spent on the children that are allready here. What about supporting a change in laws for the unborn such as tax laws, the ability to add the unborn as a dependent? Social security cards or even citizenship? We see them chant over and over about morals and ethics but we see them never fully support LIFE
2007-12-14
09:05:47
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And before any of you blast me let me point out that while I do support pro choice I also care about children. I do donate my time to help those kids who don’t get any help.
I wish I could give more money than I already do but
I am a parent with 4 boys to take care of. I think those things to be moral and ethical. I don’t use words to hide behind my true feelings and it truly saddens me to see some Christians hide their faith behind empty words in a political ploy to get their way, you just cant get any more Unchristian than that.
2007-12-14
09:06:15 ·
update #1
I'd like to thank Gorgeous and Keoh6 for what they've added.
2007-12-14
09:19:29 ·
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You're onto something important. Christians should support what has been termed a "consistent ethic of life." This approach is also called the "seamless garment" by Catholics.
It is utterly inconsistent for Christians to oppose the destruction of life through abortion but support the destruction of life via poverty, preventable illness, capitol punishment or war. I don't have figures on how many "pro-lifers" also support war. But one is too many.
The kind of person who upsets you is a one-issue voter who tends to vote for anyone who supports their single pro-life stance -- no matter what else they stand for. It's sad that such people so vehemently oppose violence to the unborn but are sometimes rather bloodthirsty in their support of violence against humans outside of the womb.
And vice-versa, I might add! There are those who oppose war, torture and cruety, but support the destruction of life by abortion. Seems to me that both sides have a ton of 'splaining to do!
2007-12-14 09:28:45
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answered by Jeanster 4
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Only a fool could believe you and your nonsense. All those census results prove is that the birth rate goes up and down through the years instead of remaining constant. It doesn't prove that pro-lifers had any affect on it, ever. Since Roe v. Wade, millions of babies have been aborted. I'd say the pro-choice crowd has killed an awful lot of children as well, probably far more than the pro-life crowd, whatever your silly websites say. Maybe if you backed yourself up with some valid info instead of sites that have no links to outside sources, you'd be more believable. As it is, you aren't. You won't even back up your claim that the Bible supports abortion and that would be far easier than finding stats online.
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answered by ? 4
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The issue of whether or not to kill the unborn is not just an issue of Christianity. Aethists, too, sometimes value life enough to not want to destroy it.
Yes, as a former "pro choice" person, I am aware of their platform:
1. It is better and safer to get a legal abortion than a "back alley" abortion. Using this same logic, when a murderer has a desire to kill, we should supply him with the tools to murder someone in a safe way, where he would not be harmed in the process, after all, he is going to kill anyway, so we may as well make it safe for him to do so.
2. It should be the woman's choice. Perhaps the best arguement, however, when a person is deciding whether another should live or die, that person needs to be thinking very clearly at the time of that decision, or a very bad thing could happen. That is, they need to be free from alcohol or drugs, and even horemones make all of us make irrational decisions sometimes. Unfortunately a woman who makes a life or death decision often does it at the worst possible time to make such a choice: Often her boyfriend just left, and she just found out she was pregnant! While dealing with those emotional issues, the poor girl needs to be the sole member on a jury to decide life or death for her own child..whew what a responsibility! I would not want to have to make a life and death decision for others when I was in the midst of a family crisis/emotional turmoil. I would want to have a very clear head and not be pressured to make a hurried decision!
No woman should have to get up in the morning and say, "Should I take my child's life today, or let him live?"
Many women who have made the wrong choice of her childs life have learned to later regret it, and sometimes she feels she was not in the proper mood to make that decision. Maybe she made that decison out of fear..what if I wont be a good mom? What if she cant afford to keep the baby?
The choice of whether a person lives or not should not be made on the basis of cost and it also should not be made in a time of emotional trauma. If you are considering abortion, there are HUNDREDs or thousands of couples who will promise to love your baby forever and you wont have the responsibility. You can give your baby the best ever..love your baby enough to give him parents who can/will take care of him. Allow your baby to be adopted. May God Bless.
2007-12-14 09:34:53
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answered by Anonymous
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I am a father of 4, and a Christian. I don't try and push my religious beliefs on anyone. My view on abortion is driven not by my religion but by "my" morals. IT is also not political. I think that abortion has become a form of contraception. I would truly have a hard time speaking ill of someone that had one to save their life or was raped or victim of molestation. I simply have a problem with it being the first choice as the answer to pregnancy.
Everyone will have to live with their own decisions. I am a man and I am glad that ultimately that is not my decision to make.
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The pro-choice advocates say that life does not begin at conception and that abortion is not murder, yet there are laws that will convict someone of murder if they harm the mother (mother lives) and the baby dies, and people say that Christians contradict themselves.
2007-12-14 09:15:50
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answered by keoh6 5
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Being a Christian and conservative morally, I'm against abortion not because of moral or ethics (though, it does play a part in my descision) but i am against it because i believe that girls have no reason to become pregnant unless they are foolish and careless. There are dozens of ways to prevent pregnancy and i am sorry for being so harsh but i have no sympathy for carelessness. Girls have access to birth control and there are Condoms at every drugstore in America!
The only exception i believe is if a girl was raped - this i have sympathy for. Immense sympathy.
But aside from that, let's be realistic. Politicians don't say what I've just said because it doesn't bring votes in. That's politics for you - no honest man can be President.
2007-12-14 09:15:48
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answered by Angelita Amante 3
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I don't think anyone would encourage abortions. I am a social liberal, and everyone I know is keen on reducing abortions. As a matter of fact, I have never, ever heard anyone say that abortions are good. The point is that making it illegal does not stop it, it just hides it. The most effective way to reduce abortions is to make it easier to raise children.
2007-12-14 09:31:58
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answered by Dirk D 3
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The real issue is the "PRINCIPLE OF LIFE". Well, for a real Christian that is, so they would never have one.
I find it ironic that some anti-abortionist killed or wounded abortionist in defense of life.
They do not even understand, that one cannot defend the "principle of life" and violate it at the same time.
I understand why people have abortions, however I do not agree with them in the least.
This is a issue connected to several other issues... Crime against women, lack of sexual education, and lack of moral education, ect.
Still it comes down to the principle of life, and the principles of true justice.
I will continue to restrain my judgment of others, for I am not permitted to judge you or any other person. I will however continue to try to educate as many as will listen about the real issues all connected to the execution of unborn life.
Journey Well...
2007-12-14 09:28:27
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answered by Juggernaut 2
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The Christian pro-life movement is driven by politics, desire to control, and dishonesty.
It seems that Christians are pro-life till a child comes into the world and then their pro-life stance gets muddled into:
pro-death penalty: apparently the sanctity of life is negotiable.
pro-war: If the state creates an enemy Christians don't mind jumping into killing others. ,
Anti-gun control: Guns are for killing. They have no other real use and Christians are big on owning them.
Anti-stem cell research: Stem cell research could very easily save a great many lives yet there are many Christians who are against it mostly due to their ignorance about it.
2007-12-14 09:18:55
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answered by Anonymous
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I agree 100%. It is a decision based solely on religious ideology. If you don't want an abortion,and you believe it is wrong, don't have one. you can also run outreach programs through your church to try and persuade teens to be abstinent.
I disagree that medical procedures should be legislated by people who are not doctors. Only the doctor and the patient should be involved in that decision. I liken it to the situation if we had a orthodox Jewish president and he or she felt it was morally wrong to eat pork so began pushing the banning of pork chops.
2007-12-14 09:14:15
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answered by Anonymous
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I think it is about 2 things:
1. They think a soul enters a conceptus at the instant of conception, and that thus a fertilized egg is an actual person
2. They want to make it as miserable as possible to have sex outside marriage
Both of these are religiously motivated, based on nothing rational.
2007-12-14 09:11:38
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answered by Anonymous
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