Jehovah's Witnesses - if Michael bacame Jesus, did Jesus become Michael upon returning to heaven?

Answer 1

Not exactly.

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that "Michael" is simply another name for Jesus, just as "Immanuel", "Sprout", "David", and "The Word" are additional names of Jesus (see Matt 1:23 ["Immanuel"]; Zech 6:12 ["Sprout", "Branch", or "Shoot"]; Ezek 37:24,25 ["David"]; Rev 19:13 ["The Word of God"]).


Is not Jesus Christ the primary "Seed" who defeats Satan? The Millennial Rule begins with Satan's abyssing, performed by Christ Jesus, and no mere subsidiary. Thus, when Revelation 12:7-9 tells us that "Michael" performs this work, Jehovah's Witnesses understand that to mean that Jesus performs this work.

(Genesis 3:15) He [the Seed of God's woman] will bruise you [the original serpent Satan] in the head

(Revelation 12:7-9) Michael and his angels battled with the dragon... So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan

(Revelation 20:1-3) And I saw an angel... And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. And he hurled him into the abyss

(Revelation 20:6-7) Rule as kings with [Christ] for the thousand years.


Almost comically, the same trinitarians who insist that Jesus cannot have another name are the same persons who pretend that Jesus is also called Jehovah.

While anti-Witnesses pretend that Jehovah's Witnesses rely upon one Scripture for the belief that Jesus is the archangel Michael, that passage (1 Thes 4:14-16) is simply the easiest, most concise demonstration of the fact.
...(1 Thessalonians 4:14-16) Jesus died and rose again, so, too... the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice

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Answer 2

Heb 1:4 states about Jesus after his resurrection.

. 4 So he has become better than the angels, to the extent that he has inherited a NAME more EXCELLENT than theirs.

Jesus is known for many names in the Bible, The Word, The Only-Begotten Son of God, Michael, the Firstborn of all creation, etc. But after his resurrection, Jesus INHERITED A NAME MORE EXCELLENT than any angels. Obviously that name wasn’t Jesus yet even before he came down to earth, because he only INHERITED IT after his resurrection. See Heb 1:1-5

Jesus is still Jesus and Michael, and the Word, but he has now have a new name. See Isa 9:6.

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Jesus is different than all the other angels, although he being the Chief of Angels, he is also the ONLY-BEGOTTEN SON of God. The rest of creation are created through Jesus. Jesus is also the Christ,the Word and our Lord.

Now, regarding Jesus as the Archangel. Please notice these Bible texts.

However, the friend of the bridegroom, when he stands and hears him, has a great deal of joy on account of the voice of the bridegroom. John 3:29 – Who owns the voice of the bridegroom? And the one who owns the voice of the bridegroom is the bridegroom himself, isn’t he?

1 The 4:16 states “because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.”

Who has the voice of an archangel who have a commanding call and when the dead hears that archangel’s voice that they in turn was raised up in union with Christ? The owner of that archangel’s voice is Jesus.

Just like in John 3:29 , the one with the voice of the bridegroom is the bridegroom himself, so in 1 The 4:16 the one with the voice of the archangel who can raise the dead, is also an archangel.

Just think of this, if Jesus can be a human, why can’t he be the archangel which means Chief of Angels.


(Job 38:4,7) When [Jehovah] founded the earth... When the morning STARs [or "angels"] joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause

(Revelation 22:16) I, Jesus... I am the root and the offspring of David, and the BRIGHT morning STAR.

Answer 3

Yes.

The 12th chapter of Revelation depicts Michael leading all of God's angels in warfare against Satan and his demons. Why isn't Christ even pictured in that scene? His apparent absence is particularly glaring since the 19th chapter of Revelation pictures Christ leading Jehovah's heavenly cavalry into battle at Armageddon.

Furthermore, why does Revelation 20:1 says that an angel out of heaven seizes the Devil and throws him into the abyss. Even the demons recognized that when Jesus was on the earth he was the one destined by prophecy to trounce the Devil. The demons even asked Jesus if he had come to send them to the abyss before their time. Since Jesus was put to death by the serpent Devil, God's perfect justice demands that the glorified Jesus personally destroy the Devil. It should therefore be evident that Michael is actually Christ Jesus and that the angel that is depicted in Revelation seizing the Devil is also Jesus.

Daniel 12:1 refers to Michael as the great prince "who is standing in behalf of the sons of you people," during the time of the great tribulation. Elsewhere in Scripture, namely Isaiah 9:6, the Messiah is called the Prince of Peace. Since Daniel 12:1 is fulfilled during the climax to Armageddon, the sons referred to can not be the fleshly Jews, but are instead Christians.

Therefore Michael the great prince, who stands up to save Jehovah's people during the tribulation, must be the Messianic Prince of Peace. That's because Jesus is personally responsible for leading God's people through the great tribulation to salvation.

Answer 4

Yes, you are correct as to what they are told to believe. Here is the proof and source:

"...It is important to note that the human birth of Jesus was not the beginning of his life. Before Jesus was born, Mary was visited by an angel who told her that she would conceive a child by means of holy spirit and that she should name the child Jesus. (Luke 1:31) During his ministry, Jesus often spoke of his prehuman existence.—John 3:13; 8:23, 58.

So Michael the archangel is Jesus in his prehuman existence. After his resurrection and return to heaven, Jesus resumed his service as Michael, the chief angel, “to the glory of God the Father.”—Philippians 2:11."

Answer 5

Jesus didn't become anyone different.

He was a spirit creature, became a human creature, was resurrected again as a spirit creature.

In all this time he was the same person.

Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, and forever.

As to the names, A person legal name is Fredrick Samuel Reed, but everyone calls him 'Bob', does Bob become a different person?

No

In bible times names did not just name a person, but they were also descriptive of who they are, example Nabel, meaning foolish, because how he acted, especially toward David.

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Answer 6

No and no. There is not a single verse in all the bible that says Michael ever became Jesus, in any way shape or form.

I know JWs will try to point to some verses and draw a conclusion, but there is not a single one.

No angel died for your sinns or any other person. See Hebrews chapter 1-2.

Jesus accepted worship - Michael never did
Jesus rebuked Satan - Michael never did

Read scripture in context and you will see. Their method of study is read their material and find a verse to back it up.Unfortunately that is reading with a pretext which leads to things being out of context.

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Answer 7

Interesting question. Why is Michael so big? Jesus isn't that big even when He raised from the dead.

Daniel had a vision of Michael with one foot on land & one foot on the sea.

Answer 8

No, Jesus was from everlasting, as the Father was"

(Micah 5:2) "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting."

(Psa 90:2) "Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God."

See here for why Jesus is God: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/DEITYofCHRIST.html

Answer 9

MICHAEL

(Mi′cha·el) [Who Is Like God?].

1. The only holy angel other than Gabriel named in the Bible, and the only one called “archangel.” (Jude 9) The first occurrence of the name is in the tenth chapter of Daniel, where Michael is described as “one of the foremost princes”; he came to the aid of a lesser angel who was opposed by “the prince of the royal realm of Persia.” Michael was called “the prince of [Daniel’s] people,” “the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of [Daniel’s] people.” (Da 10:13, 20, 21; 12:1) This points to Michael as the angel who led the Israelites through the wilderness. (Ex 23:20, 21, 23; 32:34; 33:2) Lending support to this conclusion is the fact that “Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body.”—Jude 9.

Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return. Michael is the only one said to be “the archangel,” meaning “chief angel,” or “principal angel.” The term occurs in the Bible only in the singular. This seems to imply that there is but one whom God has designated chief, or head, of the angelic host. At 1 Thessalonians 4:16 the voice of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ is described as being that of an archangel, suggesting that he is, in fact, himself the archangel. This text depicts him as descending from heaven with “a commanding call.” It is only logical, therefore, that the voice expressing this commanding call be described by a word that would not diminish or detract from the great authority that Christ Jesus now has as King of kings and Lord of lords. (Mt 28:18; Re 17:14) If the designation “archangel” applied, not to Jesus Christ, but to other angels, then the reference to “an archangel’s voice” would not be appropriate. In that case it would be describing a voice of lesser authority than that of the Son of God.

There are also other correspondencies establishing that Michael is actually the Son of God. Daniel, after making the first reference to Michael (Da 10:13), recorded a prophecy reaching down to “the time of the end” (Da 11:40) and then stated: “And during that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of [Daniel’s] people.” (Da 12:1) Michael’s ‘standing up’ was to be associated with “a time of distress such as has not been made to occur since there came to be a nation until that time.” (Da 12:1) In Daniel’s prophecy, ‘standing up’ frequently refers to the action of a king, either taking up his royal power or acting effectively in his capacity as king. (Da 11:2-4, 7, 16b, 20, 21) This supports the conclusion that Michael is Jesus Christ, since Jesus is Jehovah’s appointed King, commissioned to destroy all the nations at Har–Magedon.—Re 11:15; 16:14-16.

The book of Revelation (12:7, 10, 12) specifically mentions Michael in connection with the establishment of God’s Kingdom and links this event with trouble for the earth: “And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled. And I heard a loud voice in heaven say: ‘Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down . . . On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea.’” Jesus Christ is later depicted as leading the heavenly armies in war against the nations of the earth. (Re 19:11-16) This would mean a period of distress for them, which would logically be included in the “time of distress” that is associated with Michael’s standing up. (Da 12:1) Since the Son of God is to fight the nations, it is only reasonable that he was the one who with his angels earlier battled against the superhuman dragon, Satan the Devil, and his angels.

In his prehuman existence Jesus was called “the Word.” (Joh 1:1) He also had the personal name Michael. By retaining the name Jesus after his resurrection (Ac 9:5), “the Word” shows that he is identical with the Son of God on earth. His resuming his heavenly name Michael and his title (or name) “The Word of God” (Re 19:13) ties him in with his prehuman existence. The very name Michael, asking as it does, “Who Is Like God?” points to the fact that Jehovah God is without like, or equal, and that Michael his archangel is his great Champion or Vindicator.

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Answer 10

Never happened either way