If God is a trinity (consisting of the Father, Jesus, and the holy spirit)...?

Question

...why do trinity believers insist that God's name is Jesus? Isn't he only 1/3 of the trinity?

Tebone, you are thoroughly confused. Just to highlight one thing you said. "Jesus is the Father." How can that be when Jesus said the Father was greater than he was? (John 14:28) Also, at Matt. 24:36, Jesus said his Father knew something that he didn't know. (Matt. 24:36) How could they then be the same person?

Mandi, there is nothing in John 1 says God is a trinity.

Jesus Christ is God Almighty in the flesh

Tebone, if Jesus was God Almighty in the flesh, where does that leave the Father and the holy spirit? If the trinity is true, Jesus by himself can't possibly be God. Instead, he'd be one third God.

Also, if the human Jesus was God Almighty, why was it necessary for an angel to strengthen him? (Luke 22:43)

If the human Jesus was God Almighty, why did he say someone else was greater than he was? (John 14:28) Who could be greater than Almighty God?

MOST OF YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

Enamel, where does the Bible use the terms God the Son and God the holy spirit?

Illustration: The 3 principle parts of a computer are the monitor, the processor, and the keyboard. Is any one of those parts the computer? Is the monitor alone the computer? No. Is the keyboard by itself the computer? No. Is the processor by itself the computer? No. It takes all 3 parts to make a computer. So, if it takes the Father, Son, and the holy spirit to make a complete God, how can you take any one part of God--the Son--and give the rest of God the name of the first part of God--the Son. It doesn't make sense.

Answer 1

Rev. 14:1 says: "And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having HIS NAME AND THE NAME OF HIS FATHER written on their foreheads."

It is important to note that the personal name of the Father is clearly assigned to GOD (see Rev. 3:12) whereas the personal name of Christ is not. And the Father is the GOD OF the Son.

But even more significant in these scriptures which show the importance of the personal name of God and the personal name of Christ (TWO DISTINCTLY SEPARATE NAMES) is the fact that NO MENTION WHATSOEVER IS MADE OF THE PERSONAL NAME OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

This would be an unforgivable slighting of the True God IF the holy spirit were truly a person who is God (or 1/3 God, or anything else trinitarians want it to be), but it would be exactly what would be expected if the only true God were the Father alone (Jehovah alone), and if the Christ and savior were Jesus alone, and if the holy spirit were not a person but God’s active force and therefore HAS NO PERSONAL NAME. -RDB

Answer 2

Line Dancer you said: "Sorry, but the verse does not even mention the holy spirit. You sound really desperate. John 1:1 does not say: The Word AND the Father AND the holy spirit was God." Here, again, is another scripture that let you down. "Trinity" means "a unity of three." No such thing exists at either 1 Tim. 3:16 or at John 1:1." You are right, trinitarians need to make stuff up to fit the doctrine of the trinity!

Answer 3

Makes no sense.

Apart from the fact that it is unBiblical, more confusion arises from the explanations people give. You can see they don't know what they are talking about.

There are three groups of Trinitarians;
1) Those who abstain from explaining lest they expose their lack of knowledge and just say "It's a mystery"

2) Those who for some very strange reason seem to feel that since the Father, the Son and the holy spirit are mentioned together in one verse at Matthew 28:19, that is proof that they are equal.

Ok, so how many trinities are in the Bible? I found a few;
a) Acts 12:25- Barnabas, Saul and John mentioned in the same verse

b) Job 3:11- El′i·phaz the Te′man·ite and Bil′dad the Shu′hite and Zo′phar the Na′a·ma·thite, three in one verse.

c) Exodus 11:20 has Isaac, Jacob and Esau mentioned in one verse.

There are so many trinities in the Bible then!!!

3) Those who try to seem scientific and wise, not realising that by their explanations, they are denying the official definition of the trinity.

Point in case; the example of the egg.

Ok, so the shell on its own is not the egg, neither is the albumen nor the yolk. Only TOGETHER do they make the egg. That makes sense scientifically. But does the official definition of the trinity say that the Father on his own is not God? That Jesus on his own is not God? The holy spirit?

People got burnt at the stake for saying such things.

EDIT: Pikeruss- ROFLOL!!!

Answer 4

Think about it. Who are the people that believe in the trinity? Mostly the people who don't read the bible but let others tell them what they want to hear. **Don't get me wrong that's not the case with all the people** Some people that do believe in the trinity try to base it on the bible, but just like all other man-made belief, there's noticeable flaws.
I disagree with this teaching 100%. I really like the facts you pointed out in your details and trust me I've met with many that are confused just like the ones you put in your details. It's either they get confused or they confuse me one or the other. lol Anyways. Another thing I'd like to point out is that, alot of the believers of this teaching are scattered in the details of their beliefs. Here this probably didn't come out right. For example, if a person is catholic it doesn't mean you believe in the trinity. But there is catholics that believe in the trinity. Same with the baptists etc, etc. This alone confuses me. lol

Answer 5

I am a Trinity believe. I don't insist God's name is Jesus at all. God indeed is the trinity. Read John 1 and you will see that Jesus is described as the word of God being with God in the beginning and then becoming flesh on earth. God is the almighty creator of the universe - that is seen and all that is unseen. He is the only saving grace for this place. No one can go to heaven without him.

Answer 6

According to Deut. 6:4 .."the LORD our God, the LORD is one." The word 'one' in Hebrew is echad meaning a compound unity. A similar concept is used when God gives the relation of man and woman after marriage, "they will become 'one' flesh. Gen.2:24 Again when Israel as a nation is asked to respond to Moses, it says "they all answered in 'one' accord, meaning with one voice. The idea of God the Father; God the Son; and God the Holy Spirit is somewhat the same. Three distinct entities with the same mind, characteristics and goals. No doubt a very difficult concept for the human mind to grasp and one we will probably wrestle with until heaven.

Answer 7

We have all read the scriptures that makes an obvious separation between God and Son.

Acts 7:55,56 Stephen saw "Jesus standing at God’s right hand.”

Matth 26:39 "“My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass away from me. Yet, not as I will, but as you will.”

John 8:17, 18, “I bear witness to myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness to me.” - (Crystal clear.)

John 14:28, : “ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.” (Where is the confusion in this?)

1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.”

.....and the list goes on. There is not one scripture in the Bible that mentions Trinity. There is very detailed geneology throughout the Bible (especially Chronicles). Where is the mention of the three who make up "the Trinity"?

The New Encyclopædia Britannica, The New Catholic Encyclopedia, The Encyclopedia Americana, Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, Dictionary of the Bible all give the history of the Trinity; pagan. Here's what two had to say:

A Dictionary of Religious Knowledge "Many say that the Trinity “is a corruption borrowed from the heathen religions, and ingrafted on the Christian faith.” And The Paganism in Our Christianity declares: “The origin of the [Trinity] is entirely pagan"

Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel: “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”
When someone asked Jesus who he was he said "I am the Son..." If you ask a child who is holding his dad's hand "What's your name?" He will tell you his name. And when you point to his father and ask who that is, they say 'this is my dad."

I've never heard a kid say "I'm Christopher, the other two people who are part of me are called _____ and _____" or "I'm Christopher and I'm 1/3"

Answer 8

The Bible never uses the term trinity, it mentions the Godhead. So trinity is a term invented after the apostles were long gone.

The Bible mentions each in his own unique capacity.

Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

As to buying dinner. The Father and the Son have glorified bodies, the Holy Ghost is spirit. So that two plus the host.

Answer 9

The Trinity is one of the hardest things to understand. You have properly identified the 3 in 1 that makes up the Trinity or Godhead. There are 3 separate entities, who all together form one God.

The best way I can explain it is using this example:
A father, mother and child are 3 individuals, but collectively, are 1 family.

So is it with the Trinity or Godhead, God (the father), Jesus (God becoming man in the flesh as our Savior) and the Holy Spirit (the spirit of God as our helper and comforter)... each one of these have their own function, yet are one as they all work in harmony for one purpose.

Again - 3 people = 1 family...
3 entities = 1 Godhead.

Please email me with any additional concerns or questions you may have concerning this.

Answer 10

Rather than confusing things with my own explanation allow me to take the explanation from the Rituale Romanum: "Athanasian Creedo"
I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LENGTH, IT TRANSLATES FROM THE LATIN WELL, BUT IS MUCH LONGER IN ENGLISH

Now this is the universal faith,that we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in unity; Neither confusing the Persons one with another, nor making distinction in their nature.

For the Father is a distinct Person; and so is the Son; and so is the Holy Spirit. Yet the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit possess one Godhead, co-equal glory, co-eternal-majesty.
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As the Father is, so is the Son, so also is the Holy Spirit. The Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, the Holy Spirit is uncreated.
The Father is infinite, the Son is infinite, the Holy Spirit is infinite.So is the Father eternal, the Son is eternal, and likewise the Holy Spirit is eternal.
Yet they are not three eternals, but one eternal God. Even as they are not three uncreated, or three infinites, but one uncreated and one infinite God
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So likewise the Father is almighty, the Son is almighty , and the Holy Spirit is almighty, but they are the one almighty.
Thus the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. Yet they are not three Gods but one.

The Son is from the Father alone, neither created nor made, but begotten. The Holy Spirit is from the Father and the Son, neither made nor created nor begotten,.but he proceeds.
So there is one Father, not three, one Son, not three and one Holy Spirit ,not three.

This is the Trinity; one person is not earlier or later, nor is one greater or less; but all three persons are co-equal and co-eternal. .