To both relgious and non-religious; When will this debate end?

Question

There are only two options:
When Jesus comes back?.
Rev 22:7 Behold, I am coming soon!
Rev 22:12 Behold, I am coming soon!
Rev 22:20 Yes, I am coming soon.

Why has he taken so long to return? Why did you use the word ‘soon’ THREE TIMES? Maybe the 'gap theory' applies here too, 'soon' to Jesus could mean many years to us. However, the wording does embolden the faithful to remain steadfast.

When Christianity is dissolved?
In 1807 slavery was abolished by the British Parliament and finally in 1863 fifty-six years later, the Emancipation Proclamation was issued in America. In the USA, fashion seems to always be behind, or ‘catching up’ with European styles.

From non-American responses on RS and surveys from the European Commission website it seems that there is a growing populace of atheists in the world. However, the zealous passion from the Christian side makes me think that there is NOTHING that could get them to CONSIDER that what they believe could be wrong.
So when?

I agree, good critical discussion is healthy.

I don't like the gap theory “our time is different from God's time”. This seems a little too convenient for things like Creationism and Jesus’ return.

JBT, thank you for your post!

I am anti-bias against religion and absolutism but you assume this means I’m an atheist. I am a nothing. I’m just arguing for the sake of critical thinking and rational discussion. If God appeared to me or on CNN, if Jesus walked across my swimming pool I would have no problem bowing down and praising his all mighty name. Or if Allah, pbuh, came down and did the same, then I would be a proud Muslim. If the existence of God was a law of nature; the way that there is gravity, magnetism, or nuclear force, I would have NO problem believing in God. However, God is this invisible, complex, dynamic ‘thing’ that has no proof of existence, proof in the sense that we have proof for the laws of nature.

I am stating no facts, only discourse.

And Christians and Muslims and any other group use RS to spread their viewpoint, argue with others, and take comfort in finding people who think like they do. This is not an atheistic behavior, but a human behavior.

Answer 1

When the next generation of intelligent people replaces the current generation of fundies.

Answer 2

Your question is flawed at its base. You say, "However, the zealous passion from the Christian side makes me think that there is NOTHING that could get them to CONSIDER that what they believe could be wrong."

First, this generalization is completely wrong. I and other Christians have to deal with our own doubts, just like anyone else does.

Second, your bias shows through. Why would you, as an atheist, not consider that what you believe (or don't believe) could be wrong, as you want Christians to do?

Atheism is actually a logically untenable position. To say "there is no God," requires complete knowledge. While you may believe that there is no evidence to support a conclusion in a belief in God, you'd be foolish (and a bad scientist) to definitively state such as a fact. Agnosticism is a more logical choice, simply because it allows for the possibility that one cannot know everything.

As to when the debate will resolve, well, look at who's asking all of the questions. There certainly seem to be a lot of atheists asking tongue-in-cheek questions of those with faith on Yahoo Answers. Why is that? Is seems to me that the atheists are attempting to spread their viewpoint, ridiculing others who think differently, and seeking to comfort themselves in their own unbelief.

I suppose the debate will end when that type of behavior ends.

Answer 3

heritage isn't information sufficient? you're correct I don’t believe that guy went to the moon. I don’t believe that they drop the A-bomb. I don’t believe that airplanes flew into the international commerce center. Daniel hasn’t written something yet, because of the fact the single that set up an abomination that reasons desolation on a wing of the temple till the tip it is decreed is poured out on him has no longer occurred yet. we've a time gadget because of the fact the commencing up of time and individuals are nonetheless in disbelief. So what makes you think of purely because of the fact which you're making a time gadget would make it extra available. possibly you could sell your thought to Hollywood.

Answer 4

WHAT ABOUT the thought of God's actions in quickness of intervention once it starts, similar to how the plagues on Pharoah & Egypt came once announcement
had been adequately made:

(Revelation 22:12) “. . .“‘Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is. . .”

Jesus who has been charged by Jehovah with the intervention of Armageddon ,would indeed come as a thief:

(2 Peter 3:9-10) “. . .Jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with YOU because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance. 10 Yet Jehovah’s day will come as a thief, . . .”

--The quickness of the great tribulation will culminate at Armageddon, to the surprize of many who think it will be a regular war or economic scenario, but why is it that people flee from his actions, if it would be the same type of scenario we have seen from man's doing!

>>FOR THOSE who do not want that intervention here are there actions of shock
>>(Revelation 6:15-17) “. . .And the kings of the earth and the top-ranking ones and the military commanders and the rich and the strong ones and every slave and [every] free person hid themselves in the caves and in the rock-masses of the mountains. 16 And they keep saying to the mountains and to the rock-masses: “Fall over us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, 17 because the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?””

Answer 5

Part of the problem may be in the translation of the verse you quote ... I believe that the word for "soon" can also be translated "surely". Thus it would be speaking of the definitiveness of Christ's return instead of a time frame.

Answer 6

Soon

It has only been not quite 2000 years since He left.

2000 yrs in the grand scheme of eternity isn't a long time.

He come when God tells Him to come.........not any sooner.

You asked, " When is Christianity dissolved?"
Not UNTIL He comes back........Themn we'll all be outa here and you can have it all...............for what it's worth

Answer 7

You're wrong. There is a third option. Jesus never said he would return in the flesh. Never. Spiritualists believe his return will be in a spiritual awakening, a time when the world will live by his philosophy and teachings.

Answer 8

There are infinite possiblities to how this will all end up. It's like Lost. No one really knows what it's all about, but everyone's got their own idea.

Answer 9

it will stop when people start respecting everyone else and to each his own beliefs instead of trying to force beliefs on anyone and telling them they are wrong and there is only 1 path..

Answer 10

It will never end as long as people refuse to give respect to all beliefs and alwasy think that they have to be right.