The bible says "And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." — Judges 1:19
So...is god not all powerful? Or is the bible incorrect?
And...what is it about iron that makes it so hard for god? Something about the properties of it? Does this extend to other metals? Fabrics perhaps?
2007-12-14 05:36:00 · 21 answers · asked by Laptop Jesus 3.9 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Ahhh! You found his one weakness! Iron! lol. He's also susceptible to water boarding.
2007-12-14 05:39:26 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 5⤋
I'm ALWAYS amazed when someone brings this one up.
Judges 1:19 -
"And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron."
Skeptics say: "Some omnipotent God! He couldn't even drive out people with iron chariots!"
What's the problem here? This was the same God that the Bible says parted the Red Sea, brought Ten Plagues on Egypt, and created everything. Is it really plausible to suggest that some later Biblical writer is now going to say that this same God was limited because a couple of pagans had some iron chariots?
Of course not!
Obviously, something else is meant here - that the "he" in question is Judah, not God, and "the Lord was with Judah" - i.e., Judah had good tidings - inasmuch as He gave them success in the mountains, but NOT enough to take on iron chariots! The Judges writer is assuring the reader that in spite of Judah's failure in the valley, the Lord was with them.
2007-12-14 05:51:55 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
God is all powerful. Judah is & was not God. They were the ones who could not drive out the inhabitants of the mountains, and that was because they were not obedient to God, and ask for His help at this time. They were given specific things they were to do to overcome their enemies. The problem was not with God but with Judah. Iron can not stop God nor can anything else. If you knew God, read His Word, the Bible, you would know that the only thing He can't do is lie, or fail to keep His Word. If you knew God you wouldn't be using a little "g" before His Name. He is not only all-powerful, but also all-knowing, and everywhere present.
2007-12-14 05:57:10 · answer #3 · answered by The Mechanical Man 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
An all powerful god and freewill are incompatible. The ancient gnostics knew that god had to leave this universe in order to allow for freewill. So god didn't have to be denied and we got to have free will and come to our own understanding. The angels were given the first knowlege and choice, some saw gods work here as unfinished and stayed to finish things, that's lucifer, some went with god and gave up free will, some stayed with people to be the mediator between humankind and god and to teach the truth about the whole deal.
Of course Gnostic means enlightened and there are none of them left, having been all killed off by the followers of Pauls version of loving cristainity.
Iron is the element with the lowest energy state on the periodic table. it is the only one that can't react in either type of nuclear reaction, fusion or fission. Maybe that's why god has issues with it.
2007-12-14 05:53:05 · answer #4 · answered by steve what 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Of course God is all powerful. God was with the people of Judah and they were unable to drive out the iron chariot driving inhabitants of the valley. The people of Judah were unable to drive them out, not God.
God is with me, but I am unable to play the piano. Does that mean that God in not all powerful. No, it means I am not.
With God all things are possible. No exceptions. No limitations on construction materials. Now go in Peace. And put not the Lord your God to the test, knucklehead.
2007-12-14 05:48:05 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
Didn't you kinda miss one word in your quote...
The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but THEY were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had iron chariots.
God can do anything.
But his people are often limited by their level of obedience and trust in him. The people were unfraid of the chariots, so they limited themselves to where THEY were unable to drive out the enemy.
2007-12-14 05:44:29 · answer #6 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 5⤊ 0⤋
God was with Judah and Judah couldn't drive the people out. He didn't have Godly strength. He had God with him.
God is with our soldiers in Iraq, but they as humans can't have God like strength!
God is with us doesn't mean that we have incredible strength, can see in the future or can create man in our image.
Don't misread the scriptures then try to debunk the Word.
2007-12-14 05:47:54 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
Who wrote the bible and why after 500 years of Christ.
What did they understand after 500 years of mouth to mouth rumors.
What is the problem with the dead-sea scrolls - why can't we accept them?
What are the theories of the 'Holy Grail'? - can any one answer to the satisfaction of all - Or is the bible another good Philosophical thesis?
2007-12-14 05:50:58 · answer #8 · answered by mahen 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I've learned in reading the bible if you want to understand or get the real meaning of a scripture you have to read the whole chapter, sometimes the whole book (particular book). It's just like coming in the middle of conversation and hearing one part and not hearing what was said before you came in. Oh, to answer your question YES God is all powerful.
2007-12-14 05:44:24 · answer #9 · answered by madeam3 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
The pronoun he refers to Judah, not to God.
Judah was able to drive out the inhabitants of the mountain because the LORD was with him.
2007-12-14 05:40:34 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 10⤊ 2⤋
I think your translation is incorrect.
19 The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had iron chariots.
THEY (meaning the men of Judah) were unable to drive away the people.
You guys must have a lot of time on your hands. What do you do, scour through the Bible, looking for the one sentence that can be completely taken out of context, so you can point to it (out of context) and say THERE! The Bible is false!?
2007-12-14 05:40:27 · answer #11 · answered by Free Thinker A.R.T. ††† 6 · 12⤊ 4⤋