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Why kill people who already beleived in God, not just any god, but the God they also beleive in?

what was the point

They were charged with heresay, reading the bible

the bible says the beast will make a war with the saints

a saint is anyone who reads and obeys the word of God,

and i guess they looked into the future when it says in revelations the beasst would wage war against them

so why kill so m,any

what was the reason, what was the cause?
Anything other thasn the fulfilment of bible prophecy?

If this is the chruch that God set up, why kill so many people who were already Christians?

who posed no threat
who were not armed

why?

The beast waged war agianst the saints
Over 100 million Chrisitans killed in spain
population of spain is 40 million
Spain is still recovering from this

Is this anything other than bible prophecy of the revelations being fulfied

and the bible says it will happen again during the tribulation forcing sunday worship

why did it happen?

2007-12-14 05:17:37 · 39 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

How were they Heretics

If heresy is reading the bible, why don't they kill you

and would you welcome them to?

2007-12-14 05:24:00 · update #1

Cathloic crusader, thanks for the name calling,
but in defense of all your popes

please tell us why you killed Chrsitians for readingthe bible

The bible says a man can not live off bread and water alone, but off the word of God and all things that proceedeth from his voice

the bible says you must read the bible

The catholic church says if you read the word of God it is heresy

The bible says she will make war with the saints

she=catholic church

or am I missing something?

2007-12-14 05:26:37 · update #2

"For professing faith contrary to the Church of Rome, history records the martyrdom of more than one hundred million people." Brief Bible Studies, p. 16

"We must rank the Inquisition ... as among the darkest blots on record of mankind."Will Durant, The Story of Civilization, vol. 4, p. 78

"That the Church of Rome has shed more innocent blood than any other institution that has ever existed among mankind will be questioned by no Protestant who has a complete knowledge of history. It is impossible to form a complete conception of the multitude of her victims, and it is quite certain that no powers of imagination can adequately realize their sufferings." W. E. H. Leeky, History of the Rise and Influence of the Spirit of Rationalism in Europe, Vol. 2:32, 1910 edition

In the Catholic Encyclopedia, Vol. 12, page 266, the reader will find a lengthy article describing the authority of the Roman Catholic Church in punishing 'heretics', whose only crime was that they were faithful Bible

2007-12-14 05:45:04 · update #3

beleivers

quotes now supplied

2007-12-14 05:45:40 · update #4

39 answers

because catholics were powerful at that time

2007-12-14 05:22:51 · answer #1 · answered by Happily Happy 7 · 8 7

The inquisitions were lead by people and people can sometimes be bad. No great revelation there. The 100 million people number is greatly exagerated (the total population in Spain was 7 million), nonetheless the Catholic Church took exception to the Spanish inquisition and many Catholics, who were in outstanding graces, with Rome were tried as heretics by the politicos running the Spanish inquisition, including St. Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Jesuits.

Regardless, the history of the Catholic Church prior to when the protestant churches broke away is the common history of ALL christians. The modern Catholic Church has the same amount of blood on its hands from those days as does your church, your bible study group, etc.

2007-12-17 16:55:30 · answer #2 · answered by MDHarp 4 · 0 0

Actually, most of the people charged with heresy were still practicing their previous religions cryptically. But that does not excuse anything. Secondly it was really the countries not the Church. For example the Spanish inquistion was headed by the King and Queen, not the Pope. In fact the neighboring country of Portugal (also extremely Catholic, Perhaps moreso) was accepting Jewish refugees from Spain, becuase they were not holding an inquistion. Years later when the King of Portugal wanted to marry the Princess of Spain under the order of the marriage contract by the King and Queen of Spain (not the Church) they ordered Portugal to have an inquistion and expell all non Christians or no marriage.

I can tell you the exact date of my families (more then one side) conversion, March 19, 1497 due to Inquisition records, on the docks of Lisbon. They were then sent out to they Azores where they practiced crypto Judaism, until it eventually died away on the Islands.

All religious wars have political motivations, usually not of the church but of countries leaders.

Also everyone is right the WORLD POPULATION at the time was less then 450 million people. How did they kill off a quarter of the world's population by inquistition on the tiny Iberian Pennisula?

2007-12-14 05:31:15 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

The monarchs who instituted and led the inquistions were Catholic. It was about greed, power, land-ownership using the church as a cover. If anyone is interested in the truth, they would be advised to invest the time it takes to learn.

Blaming the ancient or the modern Catholic church for the wrongs committed by some of it's members is equal to blaming all past and current Muslims for the wrongs committed by some of their members. It's like reading the misleading information printed here and blaming the schools these people attended. You can provide the info, but can't make people digest it properly. Some don't want to, some have a real defect that prevents proper function.

2007-12-14 06:29:53 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

To keep the Catholic church in control...

But Catholic Crusader is right, you have quoted a totally ridiculous statistic. By quoting ridiculous statistics, your credibility drops significantly.

And another fact, the protestants WERE armed, and a European "civil war" broke out between Catholic and Protestant nations (e.g. Protestant England, Catholic Spain)

"Over 100 million Chrisitans killed in spain"...

Oh, come on don't be a moron. If that were true, not just Spain but the the ENTIRE population of Europe would have been slaughtered by the inquisition...



Come to think of it, only seventy million Christians have died for their faith through the entire history of Christianity. 60% of that has been within the last 100 years, so the Catholics killing 100 million Protestants is simply IMPOSSIBLE.

2007-12-14 05:39:33 · answer #5 · answered by CanadianFundamentalist 6 · 6 1

What do you believe was the population of the world in the sixteenth century?

There were some people killed by the Spanish Inquisition just as there were some Roman Catholics killed by order of courts in England. There existed a period in the history of the church when opposition was not allowed and sometimes resulted in the death of the individual. I think all Christians regret this.

But it was in one way the established practice in the world. After all Mary Queen of Scots was executed in the reign of Queen of Elizabeth for no other reason than she represented a threat.

2007-12-14 05:32:51 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

You are missing quite a few facts. The guy ..Tomas de Torquemada ..probably murdered under 3 thousand people..not millions like you said.... he was a jew hater looking for jews. By paying a ransome of about 30, 000 ducats to the church ( 1483 ) ( at the time an enormous amount of money .. ) the jews avoided being eradicated. Not an unusual circumstance either then or nowadays for the jews.

2007-12-14 05:47:13 · answer #7 · answered by BelieverinGod 5 · 2 0

Obviously they were not acting as Jesus taught!

The number of people who died in the various inquistions across Europe are difficult to determine, but the number of victims can be numbered in the thousands, not the millions as a previous respondent stated. The entire populations of Europe would have been wiped out if inquisitors had killed in those numbers!

For example, the Spanish Inquisition, assuredly the most vigorous and corrupt of the various inquisitorial bodies that existed in Europe, held 49,000 trials between 1560-1700 and executed between 3 and 5,000 people.

Of course that is thousands to many to be sure!

2007-12-14 05:30:15 · answer #8 · answered by thundercatt9 7 · 3 0

So... you think of that the finished inhabitants that Europe had for the period of the finished darkish a while became into 80 million human beings? possibly you could desire to be thinking a sprint extra for sure. What you have achieved with your records there became into to talk some single era of individuals, no longer the finished era of a number of hundred years that occurred. So, your reasoning seems to be a sprint incorrect. EDIT: The "element" is which you claimed that in the time of basic terms 80 million human beings lived in Europe, so the variety given while extra to the variety of plague deaths would have been greater than the finished inhabitants. it is blatantly incorrect, yet you at the instant are not keen to confess that. whilst there is not any concrete variety of those tortured and killed by making use of the Catholics for the period of the top of their ability, it is unquestionably interior the tens of millions. The worst section is that the standard public of their sufferers have been Christians that refused to stick to the Catholic social gathering line. Catholicism is the final enemy of exact Christianity that there has ever been. The Reformation became into in many techniques inspired by making use of those with consciences watching abuses like the deaths of those that refused to stick to Catholic heresy. EDIT: Oh! between the main spectacular and abused lies of all time! "We did no longer kill those human beings, the state did." correct... So, they did no longer carry trials at which persons have been discovered responsible of heresy and it became into reported that they've been worth of dying... Then the available trick became into pulled of "turning them over the temporal government." an outstanding legal figleaf, yet no longer particularly a manner out. those human beings died because of the fact the Catholic Church had the flexibility to tell the state to do the grimy artwork for them.

2016-11-03 06:30:19 · answer #9 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

In all fairness to Johnny, much of what he wrote is correct. Remember the dark ages spanned thousands of years and it is possible that that many person innocent or not were killed and then more when you add the fighting between the Protestants and Roman Catholics I do wholeheartedly disagree with this tribulation period which in reality happened during the Jewish-Roman war which Josephus wrote about.

2007-12-14 05:28:39 · answer #10 · answered by 1saintofGod 6 · 1 0

I would like to see your documentation of the 100 million number.

Modern historians have long known that the popular view of the Inquisition is a myth. The Inquisition was actually an attempt by the Catholic Church to stop unjust executions.

Heresy was a capital offense against the state. Rulers of the state, whose authority was believed to come from God, had no patience for heretics. Neither did common people, who saw heretics as dangerous outsiders who would bring down divine wrath.

When someone was accused of heresy in the early Middle Ages, they were brought to the local lord for judgment, just as if they had stolen a pig. It was not easy to discern whether the accused was really a heretic. The lord needed some basic theological training, very few did. The sad result is that uncounted thousands across Europe were executed by secular authorities without fair trials or a competent judge of the crime.

The Catholic Church's response to this problem was the Inquisition, an attempt to provide fair trials for accused heretics using laws of evidence and presided over by knowledgeable judges.

From the perspective of secular authorities, heretics were traitors to God and the king and therefore deserved death. From the perspective of the Church, however, heretics were lost sheep who had strayed from the flock. As shepherds, the pope and bishops had a duty to bring them back into the fold, just as the Good Shepherd had commanded them. So, while medieval secular leaders were trying to safeguard their kingdoms, the Church was trying to save souls. The Inquisition provided a means for heretics to escape death and return to the community.

Most people tried for heresy by the Inquisition were either acquitted or had their sentences suspended. Those found guilty of grave error were allowed to confess their sin, do penance, and be restored to the Body of Christ. The underlying assumption of the Inquisition was that, like lost sheep, heretics had simply strayed.

If, however, an inquisitor determined that a particular sheep had purposely left the flock, there was nothing more that could be done. Unrepentant or obstinate heretics were excommunicated and given over to secular authorities. Despite popular myth, the Inquisition did not burn heretics. It was the secular authorities that held heresy to be a capital offense, not the Church. The simple fact is that the medieval Inquisition saved uncounted thousands of innocent (and even not-so-innocent) people who would otherwise have been roasted by secular lords or mob rule.

Where did this myth come from? After 1530, the Inquisition began to turn its attention to the new heresy of Lutheranism. It was the Protestant Reformation and the rivalries it spawned that would give birth to the myth. Innumerable books and pamphlets poured from the printing presses of Protestant countries at war with Spain accusing the Spanish Inquisition of inhuman depravity and horrible atrocities in the New World.

For more information, see:
The Real Inquisition, By Thomas F. Madden, National Review (2004) http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/madden200406181026.asp
Inquisition by Edward Peters (1988)
The Spanish Inquisition by Henry Kamen (1997)
The Spanish Inquisition: Fact Versus Fiction, By Marvin R. O'Connell (1996): http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/history/world/wh0026.html

With love in Christ.

2007-12-14 16:58:38 · answer #11 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 1 2

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