Jw's Jesus ressurected as a spirit creature?

Question

My Jw preacher every time he knocks seems utterly convinced that Jesus rose as a spirit creature.

He tells me also that the New World Translation bible, is the most truthfyul and recommend one by the Watch Tower society:

This is what it says about the ressurected Jesus

36 While they were speaking of these things he himself stood in their midst [[and said to them: “May YOU have peace.”]] 37 But because they were terrified, and had become frightened, they were imagining they beheld a spirit. 38 So he said to them: “Why are YOU troubled, and why is it doubts come up in YOUR hearts? 39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; feel me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as YOU behold that I have.” 40 [[And as he said this he showed them his hands and his feet.]] 41 But while they were still not believing for sheer joy and were wondering, he said to them: “Do YOU have something there to eat?” 42 And they handed him a piece of broiled fish; 43 and he took it and ate it before their eyes.

Luke 24:36- 44

Your own bible says that Jesus showed them he was flesh and bone

Your own bible says that Jesus ate fish in front of them

ummm, are spiirits flesh and bone?

do spirits eat...fish?

It seems clear form your own bible that Jesus was ressurected as a man, and this contradicts the watch tower societies teaching, yet it's found in their own bible

so what's going on?

and why are they lying?

It's clear what their own bible says....

if it's a misinterpretation may they please interpret what is already clear in English for everyone to see

thanks

Your bible says he was flesh and blood

it does not say anything else

Do you not know the story of Elijah, he was flesh and blood and captured in a cloud

who appears at the transfiguration of the mount ?

Moses and Elijah

to show what exactly?

Does who were ressurected as spirit

those who were captured as flesh and blood

Your bible says Jesus was ressurected as flesh and blood

Your society says he came back as a spirit

you have thr truth, yet you stone yourselves with disbeleif for fear of being disfellowed

one person even says i got it off an apostate website

i got if from a New world translation bible, from the WTS webpage, so i guess i did get it from an apostate if you claimit to be

Sandra

do spirits dress as Gardeners?

Vot it says Jesus ate fish

thats what your bible says

they were in disbeleif as they recognized him and thoguht they had seen a ghost

he proved he was not by eating fish
why make matters complicated?

vot r u a freemason?

A PHYSICAL BODY CAN NOT ENTER THE SPIRIT REALM:

agian your NEW WORLD TRANSLATION says differently

2 kings 2:11

And it came about that as they were walking along, speaking as they walked, why, look! a fiery war chariot and fiery horses, and they proceeded to make a separation between them both; and E·li´jah went ascending in the windstorm to the heavens.

ELijah was flesh and bone and was taken into the heavens

and Where did Jesus's body go when the angel rolled the stone, to the land of the evil spirits to wrestle control of man from death

this is the understanding of your own bible,
again if this is wrong pelase indicate how your own bible is worng even thoguh it says these things

Answer 1

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Jesus was literally resurrected, and did literally materialize as a human for several weeks after his resurrection. Of course, Jehovah's Witnesses also believe the bible to quite plainly teach that Jesus was resurrected to heavenly life.

(1 Peter 3:18, NWT) Christ died once for all time... he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit.
(1 Peter 3:18, KJV) Christ also hath once suffered... being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit

(1 Timothy 3:16, NWT) He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in the world, was received up in glory.
(1 Timothy 3:16, KJV) [He] was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


The bible quite plainly teaches that flesh and blood bodies cannot attain heaven.

(1 Corinthians 15:44-50, NWT) It is sown a physical body, it is raised up a spiritual body... flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s kingdom.
(1 Corinthians 15:44-50, KJV) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. ...flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God

(2 Corinthians 5:1-8, NWT) In fact, we who are in this tent [that is, in earthly bodies] groan, being weighed down; because we want, not to put it off, but to put on the other, that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. ...while we have our home in the body, we are absent from the Lord... But we are of good courage and are well pleased rather to become absent from the body and to make our home with the Lord.
(2 Corinthians 5:1-8, KJV) For we that are in this tabernacle [that is, in earthly bodies] do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life. ...whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord... We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.


Many Scriptures indicate that spirit creatures could materialize as humans during bible times, so it is unsurprising that Jesus did so for several weeks after his resurrection. Materializing would allow Jesus to provide needed strengthening and upbuilding to the apostles and disciples, but those goals would not require Jesus to re-animate the fleshly body which had been impaled and which had died. Regarding the fact that Jesus materialized in a new human body, it is noteworthy that many or most of those who had walked alongside Jesus for years even did not recognize Jesus until he began to speak in his familiar manner. The fact that his materialized body reproduced the wounds of Jesus' impalement would allow many of those disciples to serve as powerful eyewitnesses to skeptical non-Christians largely unfamiliar with the idea of a heavenly resurrection.

(John 20:14-16, NWT) [Mary Magdalene] turned back and viewed Jesus standing, but she did not discern it was Jesus. ...She, imagining it was the gardener, said to him: “Sir, if you have carried him off, tell me where you have laid him, and I will take him away.”
(John 20:14-16, KJV) [Mary Magdalene] turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus. ...She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.

(John 21:4-7, NWT) Jesus stood on the beach, but the disciples did not, of course, discern that it was Jesus. Then Jesus said to them: “Young children, you do not have anything to eat, do you?” ...He said to them: “Cast the net on the right side of the boat and you will find [some].” ...[John] said to Peter: “It is the Lord!” Hence Simon Peter, upon hearing that it was the Lord...
(John 21:4-7, KJV) Jesus stood on the shore: but the disciples knew not that it was Jesus. Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? ...And he said unto them, Cast the net on the right side of the ship, and ye shall find. ...[John] saith unto Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord...

(Luke 24:30-32, NWT) And as he was reclining with them at the meal he took the loaf, blessed it, broke it and began to hand it to them. At that their eyes were fully opened and they recognized him
(Luke 24:30-32, KJV) as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them. And their eyes were opened, and they knew him

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/20010315/article_02.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/19980315/article_01.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/rq/index.htm?article=article_03.htm
http://watchtower.co.uk/e/ti/index.htm?article=article_05.htm
http://watchtower.co.uk/e/dg/index.htm?article=article_03.htm
http://watchtower.co.uk/e/lmn/index.htm?article=article_04.htm

Answer 2

That fact that he appeared in several different bodies and wasn't at first recognized, shows that he was a materialized spirit creature as angels and even demons had done in the past. The demons materalized and had children, lived as humans until the flood came and they dematerialized and went back to heaven. Were they human? No, they were spirit creatures. A human cannot change into a different body and appear and disappear at will, however a spirit creature can.

If Jesus had been resurrected as a human, he would have been resurrected like Lazarus and others who had been resurrected, he would have been resurrected in his own body.

The bible says that flesh and blood cannot enter heaven.

Answer 3

Yes. Jesus was resurrected as a spirit creature.

Jesus laid out the requirements to enter into the kingdom. That is be born again with water and spirit. John baptized him and upon his death he was raised by his father (col 1:1)and he sat next to the throne.

To do so he must be a spirit creature. (1Cr 15:50) "Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God"

While Jesus was resurrected as a spirit, for a brief period after his resurrection, in order to fully convince his apostles that he had indeed been raised from the dead, Jesus manifested himself in different human bodies. On one occasion, Jesus even manifested himself with the wounds inflicted from his impalement. When Jesus materialized as a human, he was at that moment—human.

The Bible records many occasions when angels crossed over from the spirit realm into the physical realm. And when angels materialize they are no longer spirits.

For example, in Abraham's day, three angels materialized and had a meal with Abraham—just as Jesus ate with his apostles after his resurrection. And that's why Jesus said that a spirit does not have flesh and bones:

because when Jesus materialized he was no longer a spirit; otherwise he would have been invisible.

But, it is interesting in the account in the 24th chapter of Luke, that Jesus suddenly appeared in their midst out of nowhere. In the 20th chapter of John, it adds the detail that Jesus appeared in a room with his disciples even though the doors were locked.

That is something that flesh-and-blood humans cannot do. It is apparent, then, that Jesus was a spirit, but that when he materialized flesh he was not a spirit at that point. But, since the Scriptures are clear that flesh and blood cannot inherit God's kingdom, it is evident that when Jesus eventually left this earth and entered heaven, it was as a spirit and not as a man.

Answer 4

The scriptures speak of Christ as possessing a body similar to his earthly body -- that's the point of the empty tomb story -- that is different somehow. On the "different" side of the scales, Chrisst enters rooms in spite of barred doors (John 20:19-20) and is not immediately recognized -- refer to the Emmaus story (Luke 24:13:35) and his appearance to his disciples (Matthew 28:17). On the "similar" side of the scales, Christ bears the wounds of his bodily suffering (John 20:24-29) and he eats and drinks (Luke 24:41-43).

The biblical evidence shows that the body of the Risen Lord is not a purely spiritual thing, nor a purely resuscitated (unspiritual) body. His body has been transformed into something different. We believe that our bodies will be so transformed at the end of time. The risen body is like a caterpillar developing into a butterfly. It arises from the previous state, but in significant ways is different from it. Because the original human body is transformed and not shucked off, we orthodox Christians believe in a resurrection that involves our bodies. That's is why bodily burial is the norm among Christians, rather than scattering the remains. In fact, cremation is only OK in the Catholic Church if the cremains are kept in one place, as in an urn.

Answer 5

Is this something else you've pinched off an apostate website like the nonsense in your previous question? You make me laugh!!!

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AvS1AF0PPHx1hJDKTfLbhnbsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20071214095737AAHUwWl&show=7#profile-info-A66osCZcaa

I think people should think before posting things they just copy from elsewhere.

If Jesus had appeared before his disciples as a spirit, how would they have seen him?

How come Jesus always had to say or do something characteristic of him before the disciples recognised him? isn't it because he appeared in a different body?

Angels, yes even demons, have taken on human bodies in order to appear before human beings.

If only you'd spend less time on those sites and actually read the Bible (any Bible), you'd actually learn something.

EDIT: He ate fish because he had taken on a human body. Didn't the bad angels of Noah's day eat? They even had sex and children!!!

EDIT2: No, not Freemason. Vot Anarж is one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

EDIT3: As I said, get away from those websites.

If Elijah went to heaven, how is that he wrote a letter to King Jehoram of Judah some years later? (2Ch 21:12-15)

The word "heavens" does not always mean the dwelling place of God, as any Bible dictionary will tell you. Sometimes, it means the sky (yes, where the birds and the aeroplanes fly) That is what it means in this case.

Answer 6

Angels were able to fashion bodies for themselves, if you recall the stories in Sodom and Gomorrah, and also the Nephilum stories just before the Flood of Noah's day. The body Jesus came back as was not immediately recognized by Mary Magdeline,, she thought he was the gardener, so it was not the same body. He was resurrected back to his spirit form, was seen in body to prove that the resurrection and belief in it, him and the Father were real. When he ascended back to heaven, this outer body would have been discarded as it would not be needed in heaven.

Answer 7

Those who are spiritually blind and spiritually dead CANNOT see or understand. Jesus says in John 8:47; He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God. The Apostle Paul said in Romans 8:9; If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ indwelling him he does not belong to Christ and the JW's do not because they do not believe the Holy Spirit is God either. The Apostle Paul also wrote about those who would preach another Gospel and about another Christ, which the JW's certainly do. The Apostle Peter said in 2 Peter 3:15-16'; Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand , which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, AS THEY DO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, TO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.

Answer 8

A physical body, one with bones and flesh, can't enter into heaven, therefore he was resurected to heaven in SPIRIT form.

Answer 9

Jesus was not a spirit body for he told Thomas to touch him. Jesus has a perfect resurrected body.

Answer 10

I am not a JW but, I am a Christian. Jesus was resurrected in body.