If Jesus was God and Satan tried tempting him to steal his soul does that mean God has a soul that Satan might be able to steal?
How do you think Satan might have punished the soul of God in hell?
Satan did try tempting Jesus in the desert, and the story makes no sense unless you accept the possibility that Jesus could have been tempted by Satan. If you accept that is possible then you have to accept that consequences would follow.
So answer the question or ignore it, but refuting it is useless, you will be assumulated.
2007-12-14
02:28:48
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OK,Songbird, so that must mean that God has a soul which could be tempted ans captured by Satan since the trinity concept makes God and Jesus into one thing, the same.
This give the chance that Satan could end up torturing God in Hell for all eternity. Interesting!
2007-12-14
02:36:47 ·
update #1
I find it to be a bit of a stump of a question to.
It sits like a lump, more deeply rooted than it looks.
2007-12-14
02:39:07 ·
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But Jon, how can it be said Satan is defeated forever. Enemies are only defeated when they have given up or cease to exist. Satan, supposedly, is still active and has no intention of giving up. So, at least it is something to ponder in spare moments.
2007-12-14
02:42:56 ·
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Thganks to Punny P for his answer. Simce the Muslims simply regard Jesus as human and consider God to be one and indivisable this question does not have the same theological implications for them. Good point.
2007-12-14
02:51:59 ·
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Well, Jon, I do disagree with the war is won idea, but not likely for the reasons most people would expect. It involves the whole concept of predestiny and freewill. Basically Arminians against Calvinists, as well as a few other points.
Anyhow this is not the question about that.
Now I will send this to voting instead of choosing. I enjoyed reading these answers, thank everybody.
2007-12-14
07:10:10 ·
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I've never been sure exactly what a soul is. But what I do know about it, Jesus definitely had one. And the Church teaches that He descended into hell after His death on the cross.
He had everything that we humans have PLUS His divinity.
But remember, God the Father and God the Son (Jesus) are two different entities. They're the same and different at the same time. I know, I know... that doesn't make sense, but some things about God are above our human logic. The mystery of the Holy Trinity is one of those things.
Does God have a soul? What an interesting question. I want to say that God is all soul, but again, I'm not real clear on what a soul is to begin with. Is it the same as your spirit? Is it part of your mind? Is it part spirit and part mind? Is it connected to your body and physical existence?
Jesus was tempted and wanted to give in. But He didn't. Satan didn't win. Even when Jesus was in hell, He escaped and rose from the dead, defeating death and Satan forever.
2007-12-14 02:30:51
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answer #1
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answered by Acorn 7
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First, let me say that this is a great, great question!
I would say this. Yes, Jesus was tempted in the desert.
Does that mean for sure that Jesus was potentially vulnerable to temptation? No one knows. Maybe Satan merely thought that Jesus could be tempted.
But another view is that Jesus Christ is God. God entered into history as a human being to reveal Himself more fully to humans.
Perhaps Jesus was both God and human at once. Always being God, but somehow having the feelings of a human being as well.
If this is not the case, then how is it that Jesus suffered physically on the cross? God would not have to feel any pain inflicted on Him by humans?
But we know that he did feel physical pain on the cross. And he also suffered in the desert as well. In the desert the devil tempted Him. Just the way people looked at Him on the cross and told Him that if he was the Messiah he should come down from the cross.
2007-12-14 03:52:01
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answered by Zezo Zeze Zadfrack 1
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The catholic church teaches 1. God is pure spirit, immaterial and perfect, posessing the fullness of existence in itself and existing outside of time. (quick definition, much more can be said concerning God).
2. The catholic church also affirms that a human being is a unity of body and soul. The soul being the immaterial "self" or "I" or consciousness. (Note - much more is available on this issue as well, but again here is a quick sum-up.) The soul may be defined as the ultimate internal principle by which we think, feel, and will, and by which our bodies are animated. The term "mind" usually denotes this principle as the subject of our conscious states, while "soul" denotes the source of our vegetative activities (growth, reproduction of cells etc., life functions) as well.
Now, the church teaches and has taught, that Christ was God made man, that he was both truly God and truly man, so in his human nature he also had a human soul. I suppose it possible that his human soul could have been stolen by satan but obviously as he was also God and without sin, he undid through his obedience the choice that Adam and Eve made through their disobedience.
It is rather idle to talk about "what-ifs" since they did not happen, but that is my answer to your question.
2007-12-14 03:13:49
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answered by Spiffs C.O. 4
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For one thing, resistance is not Futile, (Capt. Janeway Destroyed the Borg and the Unimatrix Complex and Transwarp portal)
as far as Jesus being tempted ?
James 1:13 says, "Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone." It also says in Heb. 4:15, "For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin."
Answering this objection is a bit more difficult than answering the other objections to Christ's deity because it deals with an area of scripture that is not explicitly clear: the relation between the divine and human natures of Jesus. We see that Jesus has two natures as is taught in the chart below, but how they related is not clarified in scripture.
2007-12-14 02:35:18
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answered by Anonymous
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I think He did have a soul.
Satan was tempting Him for His allegence. I can't say it was for His soul.
This may or may not be the same thing. Who knows for sure but God Himself.
2007-12-14 02:33:44
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answer #5
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answered by cop350zx 5
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yes he had a soul of his own Islam clear this point we think that Jesus is just a prophet not god and when he say god test u not u test the god he means he have god and he just human no more no less
2007-12-14 02:38:55
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answer #6
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answered by punny p 2
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"And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, "Father, INTO YOUR HANDS I COMMIT MY SPIRIT." Having said this, He breathed His last." - Luke 23:46
Spirit/soul.... I think they are the same here.
2007-12-14 02:33:18
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answer #7
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answered by Songbird 3
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GOD
WHY Do human beings so timidly evade this word, which should be more intimate to them than anything else?
Is it veneration? No! You are confused because neither school nor church ever gave you any clear explanation that could satisfy your inner longing for the Truth. The actual Trinity still remained fundamentally a puzzle to you which you tried to solve as best you could.
Can a prayer in these circumstances ever become so heartfelt, so confiding, as it should be? It is impossible!
Yet you should and must approach nearer to your God! How foolish it is to say that it might be wrong to concern oneself more completely with God! The indolent and comfort-loving even maintain it is sacrilege!
But I say to you that all Creation testifies that it is a necessary condition that you should draw near to God! Therefore he who evades this is not showing humility but, on the contrary, boundless presumption! It is equivalent to demanding that God should approach man, instead of man trying to approach God in order to recognise Him.
Wherever you look, wherever you listen, there is hypocrisy and indolence, all under the cloak of a false humility!
You, however, who no longer wish to deep, who are fervently seeking and striving for the Truth, take note of this and seek to grasp it properly...
There is but one God, but one Power! What then is the Trinity? God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Spirit?
When mankind shut themselves out of Paradise by no longer heeding the guidance of the intuitive perception, which is spiritual and therefore near to God, but freely chose to cultivate the intellect, subjecting themselves to it and thus becoming slaves of the tool given them to use, they naturally fell further and further away from God.
The cleavage occurred when humanity gave preference to worldly matters,
which are unconditionally bound to space and time. This is alien to the nature of God, and therefore makes it impossible to comprehend Him.
The gulf became wider with each generation, and men chained themselves more and more exclusively to the earth. They became the earthbound intellectuals who call themselves materialists. They even do so with Aride because they have not the faintest idea of **** they are chained. Through being firmly bound to space and time it was natural that their horizon simultaneously became narrowed.
**** could the way to God be found in such conditions?
It was impossible, unless help came from God! And He was merciful! God in His Purity could no longer reveal Himself to the debased intellectual human beings, because they moere no longer capable of sensing, seeing or hearing His Messengers. Those few still able to do so moere ridiculed because the materialists, with their limited horizon bound to space and time, rejected as impossible all thought of any expanse beyond that. Such a thing was quite inconceivable to them.
Therefore the prophets whose penetrative power was too weak no longer sufficed, because even the fundamental thoughts of all religious movements had finally become purely materialistic.
Thus it was necessary that a Mediator between the Godhead and erring humanity should corne, One endowed with greater power than all the others had possessed, so that He would be able to penetrate. Shall one say for the sake of the few who, in the midst of utter materialism, still longed for God? This would be right, but the adversaries would prefer to call it presumption on the part of the believers, instead of realising the Love of God as well as the strict justice in it, offering redemption equally through reward and punishment.
For this reason God in His Love, through an Act of His Will, severed a Part of Himself and incarnated It in flesh and blond, in a physical body of orale sex - Jesus of Nazareth, Who thus became the Incarnate Word, the Incarnate Love of God, the Son of God.
This was a process of radiation which will receive further explanation later. Through this act the severed, but nevertheless closely-linked part became
personal. Even after laying acide the physical body and re-uniting closely
with God the Father, He still remained personal.
God the Father and God the Son are two, yet in reality only one!
And the "Holy Spirit"? Christ Himself said that sins against God the Father and against God the Son could be forgiven, but never those committed against the "Holy Spirit" !
Does the "Holy Spirit" then stand higher or is It more than God the Father and God the Son? This question has occupied and worried many a soul and confused many a child.
The "Holy Spirit" is the Will of God the Father, the Spirit of Truth Which, severed from Him, works separately in all Creation, and yet litre the Love, in the foret of the Son, remains closely connected with the Father and one with Him.
The inexorable Laws of Creation which spread through the whole Universe litre a network of nerves and bring about the unconditional reciprocal action forming man's fate or karma ... are of the "Holy Spirit" or, more explicitly, are the activity of the "Holy Spirit" !
That is why the Saviour said that no one may sin against the "Holy Spirit" unpunished, because through Its inexorable and immovable reciprocal action the retribution falls back on the originator, on the starting point, whether it be good or evil.
As the Son of God, Jesus, is of the Father, so also is the "Holy Spirit". Both are Parts of Him, belonging completely to Him, and inseparable from Him. They are litre the arms of a body which can act independently, but still belong to the body if this is to be complete. Yet they can only carry out independent actions as a part of the whole.
Such is God the Father, in His Omnipotence and Wisdom! At His right band, as Part of Himself, is God the Son, Love; and on His left is God the "Holy Spirit", justice. They have both emanated from God the Father and belong to Him as a unity. This is the Trinity of the One God!
Before Creation came into existence God was One! During the process of creating He severed a Part of His Will to work independently in Creation, and thus became two-fold. When later it became necessary to provide a mediator for erring mankind, because the Purity of God did not permit a direct connection to self-enchained humanity, out of His Love He severed a Part of Himself to act as a temporary bridge, in order to make Himself once more understood. Thus, with the birth of Christ, He became a Trinity!
The difference between God the Father and God the Son was already clear to many, but the conception of the "Holy Spirit" was still confused. "The Holy Spirit" is Executive justice, Whose eternal, irrevocable and incorruptible laves pulsate throughout the Universe. Up till now these laves have only been guessed at and variously described as ... Fate ... Karma ... Divine Will!
2007-12-14 03:08:22
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answered by wellcome 3
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I'm sure He does.
2007-12-14 02:31:54
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answered by chrstnwrtr 7
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