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Do you think the increased number of interracial marriages is good for society? Does your religion agree with your opinion, and if not, how do you reconcile the difference.?

2007-12-13 23:34:42 · 5 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

WOW... It appears that I've uncovered at least one VERY VERY MAJOR bigot here.... LOL.

2007-12-16 07:12:17 · update #1

5 answers

Interracial marriages don't really matter, they don't affect my religion either way. Interreligious marriages do...

2007-12-14 00:06:12 · answer #1 · answered by LadySuri 7 · 0 1

Miscegenation is the mixing of different ethnicities or races, especially in marriage.

There is no Biblical reference or Christian tradition which condemns interracial marriage.

There are strong cautions in the Bible and Christian tradition about interreligious marriages.

But there are none which condemn interracial marriage.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states: Created in the image of the one God and equally endowed with rational souls, all men have the same nature and the same origin. Redeemed by the sacrifice of Christ, all are called to participate in the same divine beatitude: all therefore enjoy an equal dignity.

The equality of men rests essentially on their dignity as persons and the rights that flow from it: Every form of social or cultural discrimination in fundamental personal rights on the grounds of sex, race, color, social conditions, language, or religion must be curbed and eradicated as incompatible with God's design.

For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, sections 1934-1935: http://www.nccbuscc.org/catechism/text/pt3sect1chpt2art3.htm#1934

With love in Christ.

2007-12-21 06:50:20 · answer #2 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 1 1

Wh says there is an increased frequency? Some people marry outside their race but most don't.

2007-12-13 23:38:25 · answer #3 · answered by LillyB 7 · 0 1

Ditto LadySuri. Judaism promotes inter-racial marriage. Miriam was punished because she was complaining about her brother's marriage to a Midianite (Ethiopian) woman.

Inter-religious marriage is discouraged (forbidden for some), but converts are welcome.
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2007-12-14 01:29:06 · answer #4 · answered by Hatikvah 7 · 2 1

This issue is at the forefront of a war! Yes, It is terrible how so many are bigoted against the pure race. They seek only to pollute the genetic stock, just as JUDE 1:8 says they would do. Jud 1:8 Likewise also these [filthy] dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Those the are bigoted against the pure race and created order of Yahweh are called "FILTHY DREAMERS", I agree!

The First Sin recorded, in the garden of Eden, in the Scriptures commonly called the Holy Bible, was dealing with interracial relations. Was it good? In the same writing, Noah is picked for a couple of different stated reasons, but one was that he was pure in his 'generations', racial pure. The very reason for the flood deals with the corruption tot he genetic lines Yahweh had created. Was it good to mix it up? In Babylon, where the message was one-world, one-race, one-language, It is said Yahweh destroyed such relations. Was it good? I could go on and on. Messiah said, concerning his return, 'as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the Son of Man', and the world rests under a delusion and gleeful joy that that day will be a joyful event for eveyone. It that so?? You see, the 'increased frequency of interracial marriage', is but a sign of the times. Not only is it not good, it is a curse. If you would like to research the subject more I suggest three books:
'Whom Has God Joined Together' by Dallas Jackson
'Do All Races Share In Salvation' by Dan Gayman
'The Two Seeds of Genesis 3:15' also by Dan Gayman
While I do not agree in total with any of these books, they cover the subject very good from the perspective of the 'Holy Bible'.
Here are two articles you may want to read over to get a taste of the issue from a hated perspective:

GLAD TIDINGS OF THE KINGDOM:
There is a promise in the Scriptures that few receive or understand. This promise is actually the very foundation of what the Scriptures are all about. Due to the importance of this foundational message a war has been raging for the minds of people for thousands of years to keep them from understanding, believing, and proclaiming this particular promise. You are living in the time of the final phase of this war. False teachings regarding this promise are numerous and are promoted by almost everyone. All false teachers, and thus their teachings, are heaped into one "bind" and are termed in the Scriptures as "accursed".
Gal 1:8 But if even we or an angel out of heaven announce as glad tidings to you anything besides what we have announced as glad tidings to you, let him be accursed.
There is no room for tolerance of a contrary view. All will submit to the true Glad Tidings or they are "accursed". One then needs to know what these Scriptural Glad Tidings are, but also, to whom they are addressed. Many will lie to you and teach "Jesus is all that matters; tell us about Jesus and how much He loves everyone". If you think that is what the Glad Tidings of the Kingdom is really all about, you better hold on, because I am not ashamed of the true Glad Tidings of Messiah Yahshua, for IT is the power of Yahweh unto deliverance to all that are given the faith, or that can believe, Rom. 1:16. Even "dogs" may eat the crumbs that fall from the table, Matt. 15:26-28. They just need to know their place, and be willing to admit they are "dogs", or in other words, not the heirs of the Kingdom.
There is here stress placed upon the fact that within this tract a very brief explanation is all that will be presented. Knowing most people are too indolent to read this literature or passages referenced, it is still encouraged all carry this study further, identifying the true Kingdom within the framework of Racial, National, Historicism Eschatology. Historicism is the school of prophetic interpretation of all the leaders of the Reformation as well.
What better place to start for any study than in the first book?
Gen 1:28 And Yahweh blessed them, and Yahweh said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
To subdue the earth means: to subject, force, keep under, bring into bondage everything! Adam was to rule over everything, but notice what that is called; "DOMINION"! This article is not a promotion of what is termed today "dominion theology", there is a hugh difference. Dominion is what a Kingdom is all about! That is the very reason "dom" is part of the word "Kingdom". It relates to the Dominion of the King. This then deals directly with our topic of the Glad Tidings, or "gospel", of the Kingdom. Notice, the Dominion promised is very real, physical, on the earth, and included all of creation, not a spiritualized Kingdom of a "church" or some religious concept. A war is on, since the beginning, keeping the truth of the Kingdom hid. One interested in the truth should address the fact established early in Scripture; physical Kingdom means physical Kings or appointed rulers, and this reveals why so much genealogy is in the Scripture, i.e. genetics. The right of rule was being traced for all to follow. Interestingly, Herod had genealogy records in the temple burned. Why? By their fruits you shall know them; he was just another "mamzer" which had adopted judaism, as so many "jews" today. The records had been erroneous for centuries anyway, corrupted very early in an attempt to hide illegal offspring. The same corruption is true of the Scripture. Yet, let's deal with one of the first attacks in the war regarding this right of rule and Dominion.
Cain is never listed as part of Adam's lineage. This is important, for the Dominion is promised to Adam and his birthright lineage. No one else. As a matter of fact, some passages tell us Cain was of Eve, but the father was not Adam! It is important to understand this fact for it is actually at the root of the war going on of which mention was made.
1John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one,...
The "wicked one" is simply another phrase for Satan the Devil, the Adversary. So, Satan has from the beginning been warring against the Dominion promised to Adam which has not yet come to total fruition. It begs the question, who was the father of Cain? Not Adam! The first agent used by Satan in the war was a "beast of the field", Gen.3:1. Many leave out this allegory and end up teaching, with crafty subtlety, a false "gospel", and thus, a false Messiah, for which they are "accursed". One should know the reason why; they too may be of their father the Devil. Beware! Satan influenced, or possessed, the "beast of the field" to literally, physically, sexually seduce Eve. This beast was of another race, and had been created before Adam. The evolutionary idea of the religious "cretin", that all races came from Adam's lineage, is a heresy. Consider carefully some of these beasts hold intelligent conversations, repent of wrong doing, have "hands" rather than hooves or paws, sometimes live in houses, are sometimes slaves in captivity, and even seek employment at times, according to Scripture. Those are not things cows or horses do. For example Jonah 3:8, Exo 9:9-19, 11:5, 19:13, 22:19, Lev 20:15, Num 31:47, Jer 27:6, 31:27, 33:10, Dan 4:25, Zech 8:10, etc. One beast was used in Eden by Satan to pollute, and thus attack, the genetic stock of Adam, the Dominion Mandate holder, through his woman Eve. The result of this seduction of Eve was Cain. Eve lost her virginity not to Adam her Master and Head, but to the beast of the field in the garden! Read VERY carefully.
2Cor 11:2 For I am jealous over you with Yahweh-like jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Messiah. 2Cor 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent seduced Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Messiah. 2Cor 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Yahshua, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another glad tidings, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Eve was no longer a virgin, as she had been "seduced", as Strong's and others define the word used here, but her husband was not the cause! Satan deceives the whole world, Rev. 12:9, with that false "gospel" religion. They refuse to believe the racial, genetic promises found in the message of Scripture which is central to the "Gospel" of the Kingdom, the Dominion, and so rebel, ending up deceived in a false religion called christianity, proclaiming another Dominion Mandate or Kingdom, a false messiah, "another Yahshua", "another spirit", "another glad tidings" for which they are "accursed"! Paul is showing us how this happens to people spiritually, in their "mind", with a comparison of a literal, physical event. That is the reason he had to stress and emphasize the word "mind" in the first place. No need to emphasize "mind" if mental or spiritual is all the comparative event had been, it would have been understood. The seduction he warned of has occurred and is manifest to this day in people and society in the sexual phallic symbols used in society and especially religion around the world. The steeple, obelisk, wreaths, wedding rings, even the Tau cross and so forth are but a small part of this sexually perverse innuendo. The erected penis styled steeple and obelisk and vagina styled wreath are but symbolic culturally accepted forms of the same lie handed to Eve by which she was literally, physically seduced. If one looks into the history of these items listed they will find pagan religion. Even the wedding rings and cross. All are symbols of the continued attack on the promised Dominion to Adam and his birthright lineage. Gene warfare. Genesis goes further in the details, as the world goes further in its rejection of the Dominion promised to Adam's seed line, because they are deceived by Satan.
Gen 3:15 And I will put hatred between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
The "thy seed", the offspring of Satan, through this rebellion of Yahweh's law and genetic order with Eve and the beast of the field, was prophesied here to manifest hatred for the pure offspring. Who would dare say there is no physical seed of the Devil around us today? They hate the promised seed line and seek to destroy it through sex, through mixing the genetic stock. You see the war every time you see the mixed offspring, or "mamzer". These mamzers are not Adamites nor beasts of the field. The Hebrew term, transliterated here as "mamzer" #4464, is defined by Strong's Lexicon and others as a "mongrel". The term "ereb" #6154, where our term "Arab" comes from, in Strong's and others is defined as "mongrel race". These are terms found in the Scriptures and yet are avoided by the panty-waist preachers of today. They fear the reprisals. You hear the war for the mind every time you hear "another glad tidings" from a preacher telling you how he longs for the day when all of mankind are a "golden brown", as Billy Graham has taught. You hear it when they tell you "the Messiah came to redeem everyone". You hear it when they teach people like myself proclaim "hate speech". It is a battle for your way of thinking; just part of the war. By what authority do some call those things "men" or "women" that are actually "mongrel"? By the authority of a false spirit, or "another spirit" perhaps, as Paul described would happen to those rejecting the fact of the literal, physical seduction of Eve, quoted earlier? Something that is not kind after kind is not just another color or type of "man" or "beast", but rather, an "abomination". That's what Cain was, and any mongrel today as well. You are not to pollute Yahweh's creation! You are not to destroy the order of creation He put in place. Why hate those telling the truth? Because the foul spirit of the Adversary is at war with people such as myself, which keep the commandments of Yahweh and have the testimony of Yahshua, the true Spirit of Prophecy. They hated Yahshua the Messiah as well.
Lev 18:23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast [Not cows or horses, that sin is dealt with elsewhere] to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
Cain was the result of the first mixed race intercourse. He was cursed, genetically unable to repent, and was afraid he would be killed by the others in the land. From where did these others come? They were "beasts", i.e. "living creatures", created before Adam, termed by some as "Pre-Adamites". His wife, from the land of Nod, and not Eden, was one of these living creatures apparently, and then in his hatred for the chosen line and the warfare he intended to carry on, he builds a city! Building a city for two? No! Cain organized the beasts and his own mongrel seed to oppose Adam and the Dominion promised. Notice:
Gen 5:1 This is the book of the generations [genealogy/race] of Adam...
Who would have thought otherwise if Adam and Eve were the only intelligent ones created? The beasts of the field? Cain and his lineage? "Dogs", "Brute Beasts", thinking it was to them? Yes, the Dominion Mandate is very much exclusive to Adam and his birthright lineage, his "generations", his race, his genetic line. This genetic birthright line can eventually be traced to Noah. What was one of the main reasons for the "flood" of Noah's day? The reason for Noah being chosen should be considered for the answer. One of the reasons they found grace was that their genetic line was pure, Gen. 6:9! Noah and family were not mixed with beasts of the field nor other things that were about on the earth, such a Nephilim. The flood was intended to kill the polluted, mongrelized beings. But notice:
Gen 9:2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
The promise of Dominion was delivered to Noah. Shem, Noah's birthright son, was to whom the Dominion passed after Noah. Many teach Ham, another of Noah's sons, was cursed and was turned black as a result of this curse. That notion is not true. Living creatures, "beasts", are created "very good", they were even on the Ark, they simply are created for a particular role in Yahweh's order. That role is not rulership, nor Dominion. The mongrel regularly turns to these beasts, which are part of Yahweh's created order, and convince them Adam kind are tyrants and seek only to kill them off. Who is behind fostering hatred toward Yahweh's order? Satan and his perverted partners, the mongrel, as well as those foolishly proclaiming "another Yahshua", "another spirit", "another glad tidings", because Satan seduced their "mind", including most "church" leaders, just as Paul warned. Therefore you find mongrels blamed by Yahshua the Messiah for all righteous blood being shed upon the earth. Those "jews" He confronted were not Israylites, but mongrel seed lines, thus "children of the Devil" as Yahshua called them, the "thy seed" of Genesis 3:15. Herod's reason for burning of the records is seen, for he was a mongrel. Many so-called Israylite believers hide their own genetic background for the same reason.
From Shem we eventually come to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and a remnant of the twelve sons born to Jacob. Yes, the Dominion, the very glad tidings of the Kingdom are to a remnant of the twelve sons of Jacob. Yahshua was born of this genetic line, therefore the attacks on the genes are spoken of as ongoing even during the times of the patriarchs. One false teaching, or an element of "another glad tidings", "another Yahshua", "another spirit", found today related directly to the importance of the genetic lineage of Messiah Yahshua is that concerning his birth. Get our tract: "Thoughts On the Virgin Birth". You will then see just how many "minds" have been "seduced" by Satan. All these thousands of years with all the wars and fighting, death and misery with a pretense of peace can all be tied back to the promise of the Kingdom, the promise of universal domination granted to Adam, and Satan's attempt, usually through his agents such as mixed breeds or those deceived by them, to stop that promise from coming to pass. You are one of this very real and physical promised lineage and eventually will receive this very particular promise with its attributes or you are a subjected one in it. If one will not submit to it, they will be put to death according to Scripture and promise:
Luk 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Isa 60:12 For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.
That is what is coming! That is why the false dominion systems have attempted many times, and will yet attempt again, to force their way into that role of domination. True peace will only be had when the King, Yahshua, returns. Before that happens the Yliyah messengers go forth and announce the soon return of the King! They tell all to return to the law of Yahweh given at mount Horeb for they know His law is good when used as a guide for right living, Mal. 4:4-6, 1Tim. 1:8-10. They proclaim righteousness is through faith in Yahweh's redeeming work in Yahshua, not the law. The King is coming, get ready to meet him! Being warned, please return to the righteous message of the obedient. Forsake the worldly lifestyle and its false religious, false economic, false education, and false political systems.
Isa 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.
All opposition will be destroyed. Copy this tract and give it away or write your own. Refusal to proclaim this racial Glad Tidings message identifies you as a blasphemer, despising the birthright promise of the chosen seed line, like Esau, and "accursed". These will eventually be ashes under our feet, Mal. 4:1-3! This is the message, the Glad Tidings of the Kingdom, which shall be preached; then shall the end of the age come, the Kingdom manifesting its total fruition.
Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the age? Mat 24:14 And this glad tidings of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Whether this tract, "witness", is received or not is not at issue. You will believe what is ordained and appointed for you, Jude 1:4, 1 Peter 2:8. True witnesses are hated by the world for Yahweh's purpose of condemning others, Heb.11:7.
Consider this Kingdom about which you are reading needs a throne and one has already been setup. Yahshua the Messiah shall be given the throne of his father David, the throne of Yahweh on earth, as prophesied and promised. If the Kingdom is to be on earth, as has been promised since Adam, and he is coming to be given this literal throne which David and his offspring sat on, where is the throne today? Who and where are the Kingdom's citizenry? The false teacher screams out "The Church is the Kingdom", and many fall for that spiritualizing lie of Satan and in so doing become part of the "accursed" mentioned earlier. Teaching their false Glad Tidings message is what brought on the dark ages with the Roman Catholic Church murdering over 60 million to which they have taught to this day was correct. Another attempt to eradicate true believers is about to occur, in hopes the counterfeit Satanic dominion will stand. But the ones to whom the Kingdom message is addressed will finally awake, only after much suffering. The false one world, one race, one voice system will collapse. Come out of her, her daughter protestants, and false doctrines, lest you too partake of her plagues. Return to Yahweh and His laws.
Concerning the throne, did you know David was promised the following:
Jer 33:17 For thus saith Yahweh; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israyl; See also Psalm 89:29-37, 132:11
The throne of David would continue regardless as to the sin his offspring committed! Why? It is this throne that Yahshua will soon return to be given:
Luk 1:32&33 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and Yahweh shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
The throne of David was passed to Solomon, his son. Notice this PLEASE:
1Ch 29:23 Then Solomon sat on the throne of Yahweh as king instead of David his father, and prospered; and all Israyl obeyed him.
The throne of David IS the throne of Yahweh on earth! Why do so many teach the throne of Yahweh came to an end, or spiritualize it out of the very realm that was to have a Kingdom in it from the very beginning? Because Satan doesn't want Israyl to know! Israyl is deceived by his agents which are putting out "another Yahshua", "another spirit", and "another glad tidings" which they receive, as Paul warned. The Dominion Mandate, and the attacks mentioned in scripture, even by Yahshua himself, are very much in reference to physical, literal attacks, as well as those on the "mind". The Adversary forces have tried many times to steal the "inheritance". They killed Yahshua thinking to seize the inheritance. They tried to kill Paul many times, (Get our tract: Paul's Thorn In the Flesh).
After Solomon, his son Rehoboam took the throne of Yahweh. Israylites were being taxed heavily and asked to have a reduction in the taxes. Rehoboam refused. This caused a split in Israyl. Rehoboam ended up ruling over, for the most part, what was termed the House of Judah, and the Northern confederacy was then termed House of Israyl and took as their leader Jeroboam. Israyl as a whole, now divided into two houses, or two kingdoms, eventually became so rebellious to Yahweh and His laws that Yahweh raised up the Assyrians to punish Israyl. The House of Israyl was taken into Assyrian captivity, as well as many in House of Judah territories, 2 Kings 18:13. Those taken were to never return to the Middle East as Yahweh would hedge up and wall the way back, Hosea 2:6,7. Therein you will find part of the promise also! True Israyl is still very much a physical group of people.
2Sam 7:10 Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israyl, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime,
Notice to whom "my people" refers. When this promise was given, Israyl was already in the Middle East. Therefore, the appointed place they were going to be planted was somewhere else! Do you know where? Remember, we are still dealing with a Kingdom! The Assyrian captivity was part of the plan of Yahweh. Due to this captivity Israyl would eventually migrate through the Caucasus Mountains, thus obtaining the racial name Caucasian, and eventually be known also as Anglo-Saxons (Isaac's sons), Celts, and kindred peoples.
But what about the promise to David concerning the throne? The throne of David was still in Jerusalem approximately 11 years after the first wave of captives from the House of Judah were taken to Babylon. House of Israyl, because of the Assyrian captivity, had long been gone; about 125 years!
The last of David's lineage on the throne in Jerusalem was Zedekiah. Notice "in Jerusalem"! Many erroneously teach the promise to David was broken here regarding his descendants being on the throne, or attempt to spiritualize. Zedekiah, just before his eyes were put out, suffered to see all his sons put to death before him. But he had two daughters, the "young twigs" of Ezek.17! Rights of inheritance pass to daughters when all the sons are dead or if there are no sons born, Num.27:8. Jeremiah took certain of the items of the temple and the two daughters, Jer.43:5-7, and fulfilled the commission given to him by Yahweh, Jer.1:10. Remember the promise to "plant" Israyl in the appointed place? Jeremiah was to plant the throne of David, to continue the actual throne that was promised, so Yahshua could come to be given that same throne! That is when the total fruition of the Kingdom will manifest. The "tender one" of Ezek. 17:22 is the daughter, "seed", of Zedekiah bearing her right to the throne of Yahweh on earth to the "appointed place", being "planted", marrying a descendant of Zarah, who's seed earlier established Israylites in these "Isles of the Sea", not Middle East.
Eze 17:5 He took also of the seed of the land, and planted it in a fruitful field; he placed it by great waters, and set it as a willow tree.
Jer 1:10 See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.
This is the same Stone Kingdom Daniyl spoke of in Daniyl 2.
Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall Yahweh of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
Please notice the Stone Kingdom was setup, or established, in the days of "these kings". This Stone Kingdom is actually another phase of the entire Dominion Mandate or Kingdom message we started with in Adam. This is when it was planted! It applies to the House of Israyl. The kings it refers to, "in the days of", started with the king of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar, and it was during this king's reign that the throne and lineage of David was moved to and planted in a part of the "appointed place"! During the Babylonian Kingdom and those after, also the present Roman/Babylonian manifestation, all part of the image of Daniel 2, this House of Israyl Kingdom has grown. A fulfillment of prophecy in the promises to mainly Joseph and his sons Ephraim and Manasseh, Gen. 48 and 49. These promises produced Great Britain, Canada, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, and of course the 50 state company of states, commonly called America! It is very important to realize that this is a real, physical Kingdom waiting for Messiah to return and be given the throne! It is not a "church" or group of called out ones. It will continue forever, and will not be left to other people. Though the "power of the holy people" is being scattered today, with the invasion of beasts and mamzers draining our resources, Daniyl 12:7; once true Israyl is made low for their sin, rejection of Yahweh and His law, reconstruction will occur, Acts 3:20-21. The age of Esau will end, 2 Esdras 6:9. Yahshua will return and bring about the fullness of the Kingdom on earth. No opposition to Him or His law will be tolerated. All enemies of His Kingdom, of his right of throne, will be slain, as quoted.
One of the main reasons for confusion about the Glad Tidings is the misunderstanding of the relationship of the "church", the ekklesia, to the Kingdom. The ekklesia, the "church", is not the Kingdom itself.
Mat 21:42-44 Yahshua saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is Yahweh's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of Yahweh shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
The Kingdom is NOT given to a "church"! The Stone Kingdom is NOT the "church", it is a "NATION" of people, a "bride". The NATION is House of Israyl! The lie that the "church", or "body", and the Kingdom, or "bride", are the same has spawned many false teachings such as replacement theology, replacing true physical Israyl with a so-called "spiritual Israyl", and amillennialism, which gave rise to the Roman Catholic Church murdering anyone that opposed their apostate teachings, bringing forth the dark ages. It is still very much opposed to the true Kingdom, as are many of her daughter protestants now. Come out of her "my people", i.e. Israylites! The "you" he is speaking to, and having the Kingdom, and the Scepter, Gen 49:10, taken away from, is the House of Judah, for producing no good fruit. Their house was left unto them desolate, Matt. 23:38. But there were two houses, House of Israyl and Judah. The "nation" the Kingdom was being given to was the House of Israyl! Through this nation of people, the true "church", the body of Messiah, or called out ones, the ekklesia, would produce fruit! True followers of the Lamb! The Kingdom has a geographical nucleus found in nations of regathered Israyl spread aboard to the west, east, north and south; as promised to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Gen. 28:14. The Kingdom has territory, an elect race of people being the "bride", governed by laws, and one of the lineage of David sitting on the throne today! The total fruition promised will not become manifest until Yahshua personally, visibly, literally, and physically comes to be given the throne, as promised. The King will rule for a thousand years and then hand the Kingdom over to the Father, 1 Cor. 15:24-25, Psalm 110.
Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth [NOT HEAVEN], as it is in heaven [already accomplished in heaven].
Mat 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun [i.e. kings and priests] in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
One could ask here what a believer's hope is all about. Some may say to go to heaven and lay around on clouds. But we read:
Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great Mighty One and our Saviour Yahshua Messiah;
The spiritual manifestation, grace of Yahweh, has already appeared to these people which are now to look for a literal visible Dominion manifestation, Titus 2:11. Yes, the kingdoms of this world will be brought into subjection and become part of the Kingdom of Yahweh. The age of Jacob will come 2Esdras 6:9. That does not take away the fact that the throne of Yahweh on earth is here now. For Daniyl said that Stone Kingdom, planted in the days of Nebuchadnezzar, would grow into a great mountain, or government/Kingdom, and cover the whole earth. The one world government being promoted is Satan's counterfeit to the true Kingdom, and will deal with those opposed to it as has been done in the past. Spiritualizing the Kingdom of Yahweh into what is called "the church" is a deception, a strong delusion. Regardless, Daniyl also says the saints will possess the Kingdom. The ekklesia, the believers, the "church", are the ones proclaiming the message, preaching the Glad Tidings, to get the people ready for the fullness of the manifestation of the Kingdom, ready for the coming of Yahshua to be given the throne. The believers, true Israylites, are the "heirs" of the Kingdom, they are not the Kingdom itself. Yahshua said the believers, already ekklesia, would "receive" the Kingdom. It is taught people that are already believers would eventually be "Appointed" a Kingdom. The resurrection of those that "sleep" will occur at the time Yahshua returns and bring to total fruition the Kingdom promised. The officers of the "church" are Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, Teachers, etc., none of those are Kingdom offices. Yahshua speaks of the "children" of the Kingdom, not "children" of the "church". Names are given to the "church" which are never applied to the Kingdom; "body", "building", "holy temple", "house of Yahweh". These same ekklesia rule and reign on this earth in a Kingdom, when it comes into total fruition, as King Priests. The "church", the ekklesia, are sanctified by the Word, it will be without spot or blemish. But the Kingdom is currently infiltrated by the children of the Devil, and will have to be cleansed as by fire! The violent, Esau type mongrels, seek to take the Kingdom by force! These "tares" will be raptured out and burned, Matt. 13. This "gospel" of the Kingdom, with its genetic character, is the focus of Yahshua's ministry, as well as John. Many preach about A messiah, but not the true Messiah. The message of the Kingdom of Yahweh on earth IS the Glad Tidings message. Yahshua is Head of the ekklesia, but will be King of the Kingdom. This does not take away from the promises regarding the throne, planted in the appointed place over 2500 years ago. The fullness of this Kingdom is the total manifestation of the Stone Kingdom which Yahshua will bring about. Saints are part of the body, but they are citizens of the Kingdom. The ekklesia is global in its scope, for the children of Israyl were prophesied to be scattered amongst the nations, thus the need for the great commission, "go ye into all the world", i.e. looking for Israylites, but the Kingdom is geographical at this time, amongst the nations that constitute the House of Israyl, as prophesied, and will, at the return of Yahshua, become worldwide. The ekklesia consists of sealed believers and is pure and holy, the Kingdom consists at this time of a mixture and is in need of cleansing. The ekklesia is at spiritual unity, but the Kingdom is in continuous warfare. The Kingdom is soon to come to total fruition, but not before the cleansing! Not before the Yliyah messengers! Augustine, other Roman Catholic writings, and now her protestant daughters, are the source of the blasphemous ideas of the "church" and the Kingdom being the same, to promote that "church" and a false notion that its head, the pope, had full right to murder all opposers. The lie can be traced back to the Garden of Eden. That's not the Glad Tidings of the Kingdom, that is not the "gospel" at all! That is another "gospel", another Yahshua! It is instead of Messiah, it is Anti-Messiah, a spite of the actual Kingdom promised to Adam and his birthright lineage!
The children of Israyl come out of Egypt and given this promise:
Exo 19:3-6 And Moses went up unto Yahweh, and Yahweh called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israyl; Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself. Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israyl.
That does not say "jew" or "jews" anywhere. The term "jews" is first mentioned is 2 Kings 16:6, after the two house split, where they are at war with the House of Israyl, proving a clear distinction. These terms are erroneous translations throughout scripture. They apply primarily to House, Tribe, or Territory of Judah, or a person or people from or among that House, Tribe or Territory. At times it is not even a genetic Yahudite. House of Judah began allowing non-Israylites into covenant fold. This polluted the seed line. Later, Edom, a mixed race, was forced to convert to Judaism during the Maccabean period and the result was the Edomites were running the temple and government, under Roman authority, at the time of Yahshua, calling themselves "jews". He said they were of their father the Devil then, what do you think he would say of them today? "Anti-Semitic"? We are warned of those that call themselves Yahudites and are not in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. Yet, even with the distinctions in scripture as well as warnings, most of the dumb dog preachers, every time they see "Israyl" in their Scriptures will scratch through it and put in its place "jew". Most modern so-called "jews" have nothing to do with true Israyl, they seek to kill true Israyl. These "jews" are anti-shemitic, and not of the line of Shem. See the book, "The Thirteenth Tribe" by Jewish author, Arthur Koestler, wherein he proves the Ashkenazi jew, for example, is not from Abraham, much less Jacob/Israyl. They cannot hear His word, as Yahshua taught. Why not believe Messiah?
The Exodus passage quoted is referred to in the Epistle of Peter:
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of Yahweh: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
Peter is writing to the "elect" of the diaspora, Israylites, if one check 1 Peter 1:1 and 2. In 2 Peter 3:9 he makes mention that Yahweh is not willing that any should perish. In 2 Peter 3:1 he tells us he is writing to the same people as those in 1 Peter. Then it must be understood, Yahweh is not willing that any of the Elect of the Israylites should perish, and none will. It is foolish to teach otherwise. It is a promise to the elect of Israyl, and no one else. Notice the people that "were not a people" is referring specifically to the House of Israyl. He is referencing Hosea. Paul did the same in Romans 9:24-26. The same chapter he excludes most of the population of the earth from being able to be adopted into the faith. In Romans 8 he tells us of the Adoption whereby we cry Abba Father, and then tells who that adoption pertains to in Romans 9.
Rom 9:4 Who are Israylites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of Yahweh, and the promises;
Paul says not all of physical Israyl are of the true Israyl of Yahweh in Romans 9:6. In other words, the message is to but a remnant of physical Israylites, not all of them, this being the whole point of the chapter. Paul goes yet further and tells us the children of the flesh of Abraham are not all children of the promised lineage. That is exclusive to Isaac. He excludes all of Abraham's children from Hagar and Keturah, thus leaving out all Ishmaylites and many others. The adoption does not pertain to them at all, nor does the new covenant, nor do the promises of a redeemer. He goes yet further and tells us how Esau was excluded. (Get our tract on Obadyah.) But he goes even further and tells us that this entire message is to a remnant of the children of Israyl only. He references Hosea in so doing. His meaning of 'gentiles' is the House of Israyl that had been put away in the Assyrian captivity and which had migrated across Europe to the appointed place and then dispersed around the world, having been put away and becoming "not a people", or "uncircumcision", "gentiles", "aliens". This does not refer to beasts of the field, "mamzers", "ereb", "abominations", "Edomites", "Chazars", "Nothus" nor any other non-Israylite. It refers to the people of the promise. Hosea says:
Hos 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israyl shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living Yahweh.
This is where Peter and Paul got their reference. The gentiles, or nations the message is to, is none other than the children of Israyl that had been scattered, put away for sin and rebellion to Yahweh's ways. Yahshua was raised up to redeem them and bring them into the assembly, to proclaim Him as redeemer of Israyl and His coming for a Kingdom which had already been set-up over 500 years earlier when the "young twig" had been "planted" by Jeremiah, establishing the throne of Yahweh on earth in the appointed place for which Yahshua is to return as King.
The book of Jude continues and expands on the theme of the warfare and the Dominion. He tells us of the angels that sinned and polluted much of the seed line of Adam. Genetically corrupted offspring being the result, known as Nephilim in Scripture, with genetic ties to many of Israyl's notorious enemies. Some of these things live among us today! You would dare call them "men" and "women"? He mentions too the strange flesh and race mixing, or fornication, among Sodom and Gomorrah, as well as referencing Cain and one Balaam, a false prophet, who tempted Israyl to pollute their seed line with Midianite women. He tells us of false teachers with damnable heresy:
Jude 1:8 Likewise [like what he had just mentioned, race mixing] also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
They seek to defile the physical genetic "flesh", or genes, of Israyl, the promised birthright line! They also despise the Dominion, the Kingdom message, promised to the remnant of Israyl. Do you? If you don't care about this message, you too are just a filthy dreamer and despise the Dominion, much like Esau despised his birthright, and found no place of repentance.
Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven [not IN heaven], shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
So why do so many hate this message? Read Genesis 3:15 again! They are of their father the Devil and the lusts of their father they will do. They come to steal, kill and destroy! It is a promise you should believe and proclaim to others. In John 8 we are told that many of the people calling themselves "jews" in Jerusalem were born of fornication, mixed race. Many of them were from Esau, known as Edomites or Idumaeans. In that chapter they say they had never been in bondage in Egypt as the true Israylites had been, nor Assyria, nor Babylon, thereby exposing themselves. They were of their father the Devil, according to Yahshua. Do you believe it? They murdered Yahshua the Messiah, 1 Thes. 2:15, Acts 5:30. This is what you get from a mongrel people, stealing, killing, and destroying. They will do the lusts of their father, Satan. The mixed breed is responsible for all the righteous blood shed upon the earth. This hatred for the chosen seed can also be found in the Chazars of today. This bunch adopted Judaism centuries ago and now claim to be Israyl using "jew" to identify themselves, think also of the ADL, and JDL terrorist groups. Some have gathered in the Middle East, only to be destroyed soon, as scripture prophesies. Yet lying preachers say to minister to these children of the Devil! Such blasphemy!
Satan, and his preachers filling the pulpits, make a concerted effort to prevent the people of the Kingdom from awakening to a realization of their heritage because the acceptance of such a truth would inspire some to return to the laws of Yahweh and expose the lying preacher for what he is, a servant of the Devil. Their prayers will not even be heard in their day of trouble. Acknowledgment of who true Israyl is seems to be demanded:
Joel 2:17 ...Spare thy people, O Yahweh, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their Yahweh? Joel 2:18 Then will Yahweh be jealous for his land, and pity his people.
Eze 33:11 ...turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israyl?
Yahweh has provided a solution to the problem the true people of Israyl have today. The problem is sin, transgressing His law, the solution is Yahshua the Messiah. He came to turn you away from your sin, not leave you in it.
Acts 5:31 Him hath Yahweh exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israyl, and forgiveness of sins. Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Spirit, whom Yahweh hath given to them that obey him.
Do you understand, believe, and proclaim what the Holy Spirit witnesses to here? Does your "pastor" or "priest"? Your "rabbi"? Your "friends"?
Luk 1:67-68 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Spirit, and prophesied, saying, Blessed be Yahweh of Israyl; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
Does your spirit proclaim the same as these passages; Yahshua came to redeem physical, genetic stock Israyl? Or does your spirit tell you something different? If so, it can be assured, you do not have the Holy Spirit but "another spirit". Consider:
Gen. 17:7,19, 24:60, 35:11, 48:16, Exo. 2:24, 15:13,16, Lev. 26:42, Num. 24:2,5, Deut. 7:6, 14:2, 32:8,9, 2 Sam. 7:23,24, Psalms 135:4, Isa. 41:8, 43:21, 44:1,2, 45:4, 17, 25, Jer. 31:1,3,31,33, Amos 3:1,2, Matt. 1:21, 10:5,6, 15:24, 19:28, Luke 1:32,33,68-72, 24:21, Acts 5:31, 13:23, 26:6,7, Rom. 9:4,5, 10:1, 11:2,5, 1 Cor. 10:1, Gal. 6:16, Heb. 8:10, James 1:1, 1 Pet. 1:1,2, Rev. 21:9,12
You should look these up. Many other references could have been made. Yet some will still lie and claim Yahweh has forgotten his people, spiritualizing away the promises. His bride has not been replaced with some spiritualized abomination, "christianity", claiming signs and wonders, 2 Thess. 2.
Awake Israyl! Forsake the sin in your lives, even that rampant in your "church". Come out of those synagogues of Satan! Return to the true worship of Yahweh where perhaps only two or three may be gathered in a home! Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith Yahweh. Get on your knees today and ask Yahweh to forgive you, ask Him to wash you in the blood of the Lamb, Yahshua. Acknowledge the House of Israyl to be the chosen people and ask Him to give you better understanding on that subject, to find your place in his service, even if you are not of physical Israyl. Crumbs from the Masters table can be a blessing. He hears the sincere heart. Be willing to forsake all for Him, and actually mean it. Yahshua is soon to return, and in his parable of the virgins, only five of the virgins get in. Don't expect many! Consider:
Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new covenant, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first covenant, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Yahshua came to redeem Israyl for transgressing the first covenant. Do you think this means we can continue to break that covenant? Do you think we can continue to break the 10 commandments, like breaking His lunar sabbath? Do you think this means we can continue to eat meat deemed unclean, such as pork? Paul taught that the law was not made for righteous people, but the unrighteous, 1 Tim.1:8-10. If used lawfully, it will show you right from wrong, but it is only through the Lamb of Yahweh you can be cleansed. That does not mean to forsake the law of Yahweh, but use it as it was intended. Just where are you going to draw the line? At His law or your own? Turn to Yahweh completely, whole-heartedly, for the promise is unto you Israylites, and to your children, and to all Israylites that are afar off, even as many as Yahweh our Father shall call, Acts 2:39, 3:25-26.

PAUL'S THRON IN THE FLESH:
Have you ever thought about this passage:
2Tim 3:5 Having a form of Yahweh-likeness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
The social-club so called "believers" simply refuse to listen to the Scripture, or cannot hear it at all. Actually, because of unbelief manifesting in their unwillingness or claimed inability to obey the word, hear the word, or receive the truth, many promote a lie in regards to Paul's "thorn in the flesh". From the heart of many of these religious individuals you find a denial of the healing power of Yahweh, as well as a different glad tidings, "another Messiah", being proclaimed. You specifically are told to "turn away" from these people, groups, or assemblies, not stay in them attempting to convert them, change their minds, nor "just get along".
Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
Notice some "divisions and offences" are in proper order, as long as they are not "contrary to the doctrine" being taught by the Law, Prophets, and Apostles. Is your "doctrine" "contrary" to the Law, Prophets, and Apostles? Does your "doctrine" favor those, lift up those, glorify those individuals that the Scripture says are "contrary to all men"? The root of intent some of these self-proclaimed teachers, or "false teachers", have is an attempt to hide facts concerning the Glad Tidings of the Kingdom you need to know, thus causing "divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine" of the Law, Prophets, and Apostles. The "doctrine" one would have learned from Paul is far different from that taught today in the mainstream "church" world. You will find things "contrary" to the truth of the Scripture in most assemblies, yet people are ignorant, don't care, indolent, or love to have the lies instead, and thus no one attempts to "mark them" as false. Elements can be brought to light within this subject, Paul's "thorn in the flesh", which once again reveals the warfare that has been raging since the beginning. You will soon see why it is kept hid from most. It goes "contrary" to political correctness to say the least. Paul would not be welcome in the pulpits of most assemblies today. Actually, he likely wouldn't want to be there either. "Avoid them", "have no fellowship" with them, "turn away" from them, are but a few directives in regards to those whom teach "contrary" to the true Glad Tidings. Paul tells us those teaching "contrary" to the true "doctrine" of the Glad Tidings of the Kingdom are "accursed", Gal.1:8. When you know what Paul is saying, the same "thorn in the flesh" may then hinder you, and you too can glory in those "infirmities". Read carefully:
2Cor. 12:1-10 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of Yahweh. I knew a man in Messiah above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: Yahweh knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: Yahweh knoweth;) How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities. For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but [now] I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me [to be], or [that] he heareth of me. And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. For this thing I besought the Master thrice, that it might depart from me. And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Messiah may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Messiah's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
This passage is taken out of context so often, misused by almost all, because so few understand what Paul is talking about. Opponents of divine healing use the "thorn in the flesh" and the "messenger of Satan" to falsely teach Yahweh wants a true believer to remain ill! They actually say Paul was suffering from an incurable disease of some type, whether that be eye problems or some other such malady, because Paul says to have besought the Master three times for this "thorn", or "infirmity", to be removed and it was not at that time. They thus claim Paul stayed sick and that we can remain sick, "to the glory of Yahweh"! Absolute lies! Blind leading the blind! No such thing is meant if you but study your Scripture! Never does Yahweh tell us we should be sick to His glory. Never does it speak of a disease that Yahweh cannot heal, whether it be in you or Paul. The "holy seed" remnant's healing was accomplished before the world was, but was manifest to be so in the life, death, burial, resurrection, and ascension of Yahshua the Messiah. This is the reason for divine healing manifesting before Yahshua's ascension and after, it was accomplished before the world was here. Never does it say, nor teach, Paul had an incurable disease!
Paul traveled during his ministry time, nearly 30 years, around much of the southern European and Middle Eastern world. His travels also took him into the British Isles and Spain. He was persecuted, beaten, stoned, and nearly drowned during this time. He also wrote approximately two-thirds of the verses of what is commonly called the New Covenant. These unfaithful, which you are told to "turn away" from, would tell you that he was a weak, sickly man who was constantly ill and in physical difficulty. Some teach he had a sickness called ophthalmia, an inflamation of the eye, on the basis of a Galatians passage where some claim they would have plucked out their eyes for Paul. Their claim is said of them to be based on the fact Paul was blinded on the Damascus road. This, according to them, resulted in a supposed permanent injury.
What was this "thorn in the flesh"? It was a "messenger of Satan". Paul says so himself! Who blinded Paul on the Damascus road? The Master Yahshua the Messiah! Now if that resulted in Paul being permanently blinded, or suffering something as a result of that encounter, and this is the "thorn in the flesh" Paul speaks of, you would have to conclude Yahshua the Messiah is the "messenger of Satan"! Absolute foolishness! Who would be behind such a doctrine which so many ignorantly teach today? Paul, after his Damascus road encounter, has "scales" on his eyes until he meets with Ananias, a faithful disciple living in Damascus, who through the power of the Spirit of Yahweh completely heals Paul. Paul is not saying the Messiah's encounter was an encounter with a "messenger of Satan"! But the pagan, blinded, filthy, cretin christian will in essence tell you so, right from the pulpit at times. We are expected to believe this supposed puss-eyed man was traveling all over much of the then known world healing the sick, opening the eyes of the blind, raising the dead, casting out demons, and yet could not be healed himself? The question is asked again, and the answer is the same. What was this "thorn in the flesh"? It was a "messenger of Satan"!
If anyone knew what the "thorn" was, Paul did. He tells us plainly, yet many refuse to hear it! Let's clear up who it was NOT! It was not Yahweh, Yahshua, nor the archangel Michael. It was not a physical sickness from his encounter with Yahshua on the Damascus road. It was a "messenger of Satan"! It was not a punishment nor a chastisement from Yahweh to keep Paul humble nor from growing arrogant regarding his knowledge level or revelations. Arrogance plagues many in the religious ranks. "We are the only organization with the truth", is one sign that you can find in many assemblies, or their participants, today. This was not a problem for Paul at all.
The word "messenger" is from the same word that is used for "angel" in the Greek New Covenant writings. From Strong's Concordance we find this for the Greek word translated here as "messenger": "aggelos ang'-el-os From aggeloV aggello (probably derived from G71; compare G34; to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an "angel"; by implication a pastor: - angel, messenger."
By implication a pastor, i.e. a Pastor of Satan! False teachers bringing tidings of the Adversary! We find this manifesting in most today.
In Thayer's Lexicon we find: a messenger, envoy, one who is sent . . .
[Be careful using Strong's exclusively, for he was apparently a Rosicrucian and may have inserted or altered meanings to fit his personal and probable deviant intents. Some say his bloodline goes back to "children of the Devil" as well]
In Paul's day the Synagogue of Satan was headed up by a particular group of messengers of Satan. Yahweh had revealed to the risen Messiah Yahshua information which he passed on to true believers through the writings of John in Revelation 2:9 and again in 3:9 regarding these "children of the Devil". Too bad so few take heed to the warning.
In the passage, 2 Cor. 12:8, where it teaches in most translations "that it might depart from me", it may be of interest that a few translations have it, "that he might depart from me". An important point when considering this issue. Thus, in modern terms, the phrase Paul uses "thorn in the flesh" is no different than one saying of another that is giving them difficulty, "You are a pain in my neck". It has nothing to do with a literal thorn from a bush, nor a physical sickness Yahweh would not heal. The "thorn" here is symbolic.
Usually when considering symbolic writings, or statements, rules of interpretation are laid down which dictate the meaning of certain words. The symbols do not change throughout the Scripture. Whatever "thorns" are symbolic of in one book, it will be symbolic of in the others. In other words, we have the word "thorn" used here by Paul to describe the "messenger of Satan". This term may be defined by the older writings of the Prophets and the law. If you look this up you will find the "thorn" in Paul's flesh was by far not some incurable disease he languished with the rest of his life. As we will see from his own statements that could not be the case. But as to "thorns", what does the Scripture tell us they are? There is no room for opinion or guesses. Remember, before reading this passage, THOSE THAT HATE THE TRUTH CALL THE TRUTH HATRED!
Num 33:55-56 But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them [shall be] pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell. Moreover it shall come to pass, [that] I shall do unto you, as I thought to do unto them.
One point of noted interest which few true Israylites want to admit today, and Chazar, Edomite so-called "jews" is not meant by this word "Israylites", is Yahweh's intended purpose in the entire Kingdom manifestation. His intention was to drive out or kill all the non-Israylites, "as I thought to do unto them". This will be the ultimate fulfillment when the Kingdom becomes world-wide, as is prophesied to occur "tomorrow", as far as prophetic timing is concerned. Praise Yahweh for always preserving a remnant. But if the "inhabitants of the land" are to be driven out of the land, and the Kingdom is world-wide, where are they going to be driven to? The Moon? Mars? The Dominion Mandate, and Yahweh's intent, is again presenting itself, if one could but see.
But as to our immediate issue, Paul's "thorn in the flesh" is plainly identified here as well. It was mongrel "inhabitants of the land", or their descendants, not put to death or driven out as they were supposed to have been. That is the "messenger of Satan". Numerous times House of Judah had been punished for among other things mixing with the people of the land. Judah himself had produced three children from a mixed marriage which plagued Israyl. It was only by Yahwistic intervention and the actions of Tamar that Judah had any pure offspring, Zarah and Pharez. Only one of the mixed children, Shelah, survived, and this mongrel, or his descendants, caused many problems for Israyl, being part of the "mixed multitude" that came out of Egypt with Israyl. Yet others, such as those mixing during the days of Jeremyah which he vocally condemns to their face, as well as mixing taking place after the Babylonian captivity, which produced many troubles for Ezra and Nehemyah, Ezra 9:2-3, 10:3, all were nothing but trouble, i.e. "thorns". But as it greatly effected Yahshua and Paul, the Edomites, which had been foolishly forcibly converted to Judaism rather than put to death during the Maccabean period, had taken over the religious ruling counsels and puppet government posts in their day.
Jos 23:11-13 Take good heed therefore unto yourselves, that ye love Yahweh your Mighty One. Else if ye do in any wise go back, and cleave unto the remnant of these nations, [even] these that remain among you, and shall make marriages with them, and go in unto them, and they to you: Know for a certainty that Yahweh your Mighty One will no more drive out [any of] these nations from before you; but they shall be snares and traps unto you, and scourges in your sides, and thorns in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which Yahweh your Mighty One hath given you.
A major sin here is attributed to be mixing with non-Israyl, whether that is in their religions or the genetic stock. The result would be "THORNS IN YOUR EYES". Take note, lack of attention to the genetic issue of the Scripture is a manifestation that many DO NOT LOVE YAHWEH! They may praise Him with their lips, but their heart is far from Him.
Jdg 2:2-3 And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land [like leagues or agreements for marriage]; ye shall throw down their altars [how many churches would be left standing today?]: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this? Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they [THE INHABITANTS THEMSELVES] shall be as thorns in your sides, and their mighty ones shall be a snare unto you. See also Psalms 58, especially verse 9.
As predicted, the mongrel people of the land and their pagan religion has polluted some of what used to be true Israyl. We see what "thorns" are symbolic of according to the word of Yahweh. Paul understood this fact.
If we will let it, the letter from Paul will tell us exactly what these mongrel abominations actually fear, and rightly so. They may fight it till their dying day, but none-the-less, they will all die. You may fight beside them with a politically correct SOPHISTRY religious spirit, but you too will pay. The Dominion Mandate belongs to a particular people. This has been known since before the sin in the garden, the beast of the field taking the virginity of Eve, as Paul tells us in 2 Cor. 11, and producing Cain. It will manifest.
Ask the question of this section of Paul's writings, 2 Cor. 12:1-10: Why oppose Paul? Paul tells you, though it is misinterpreted by the polluted pagan christianity ranks. He says: "And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations...". If it had not been for these "thorns", these adversarial attackers, the glad tidings of the kingdom and even greater revelations of truth would have been brought forth and spread abroad to even a larger area, for which Paul would have been exalted. The end result is that he was at war then as we are today with those that oppose the truth. The Dominion Mandate, or Glad Tidings of the Kingdom, is that truth they hate, for they know what it means for them . . . eternal death!
We are told these Adversary's, these "thorns" in his flesh, these mongrels, did "buffet" Paul. To be buffeted is to be continually hit on, or opposed. In other words, he was being persecuted wherever he was going. So, let's look at who Luke says in Acts was buffeting Paul or causing opposition to see if we can find any more specific details to this "thorn" he refers to.
Act 13:48-50 And when the People heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of Yahweh: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. And the word of Yahweh was published throughout all the region. But the Jews stirred up the devout and honourable women, and the chief men of the city, and raised persecution against Paul and Barnabas, and expelled them out of their coasts.
The "jews" are the ones which caused Paul so much trouble according to the above passage. Why do so many tell you it was just Romans? Because they have been duped by the children of the Devil? In the same passage it could be understood that this would mean these "jews" were not ordained to receive the truth of the message. The following passage tells you just that:
1Pet 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, [even to them] which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
How is it they, or perhaps you, were "appointed" to be "disobedient" and stumble at the word, rejecting the true Messiah? They were mongrels. They, being mongrels, and thus of their father the Devil, as Yahshua said, do not have the genetic ability to receive the truth. Yahshua did not come to redeem them at all. They are the result of miscegenation. Lower than "dogs", for "dogs" can at least eat of the crumbs which fall from the table where the bread for the children remains today. The Glad Tidings of Scripture is automatically condemnatory to them, as has been the case for all opposition forces established against the true Dominion Mandate to Adam and his chosen seed line, Gen.1:28. That is why the book is to Adam's line only, Gen. 5:1. Cain and his mongrel crowd and army of beasts of the field; the Hamitic line after Noah's day, which produces the tower of Babel, and in process opposes the Shem line which held the Dominion Mandate; the Egyptian, Assyrian, Babylonian, Medo-Persian, Grecian, and Roman opposition, with failed attempts of establishment of world-wide dominion; and lastly the Dragon, Beast and False Prophet spirits which have attempted the same false dominion in the world, and which will yet make one final effort; all attempts have failed and will continue to do so, for the Dominion Mandate belongs to one lineage down to Jacob and then splits to the remnant of the twelve sons of Jacob/Israyl. The "final solution" will be carried out soon enough.
Luk 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before me.
The day is coming right on time when the righteous will rule, as was intended since the garden of Eden. All opposition will be dealt with on a permanent basis, as prophesied by Yahshua.
But again, who was buffeting Paul; who was it continually attacking him, which he refers to as a "messenger of Satan"? Was it Rome's soldiers chasing him around?
Act 14:2 But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the People, and made their minds evil affected against the brethren.
They do the same today. When the true Glad Tidings of the Kingdom are proclaimed, the "jews" and the lies they and others have vomited out are eaten up by the ones the message is to and then their minds turn against, or are "evil affected against", the truth of the Kingdom, the Dominion Mandate of House of Israyl. They, cretin zionists and ignorant religious supposed 'do-gooders', would rather cast the pearl to the swine, and give that which is kodesh to the dogs, many times under the pretense of missionary activity, rather than the children to whom it was meant, labeling those promoting the truth as "anti-semitic", "racist", "hate monger", "Nazi", etc. Perhaps everyone needs to be brainwashed in the government schools to join up with the one world, multi-racial, multi-cultrual, mind-set like Babylon had in mind in the days of Nimrod? Ignorant zombies! The Bread for the Children is not meant for Dogs! Yahshua said so.
Act 14:19-20 And there came thither [certain] Jews from Antioch and Iconium, who persuaded the people, and, having stoned Paul, drew [him] out of the city, supposing he had been dead. Howbeit, as the disciples stood round about him, he rose up, and came into the city: and the next day he departed with Barnabas to Derbe.
These mongrels opposed Paul at nearly ever place he went, buffeting him in his ministry and corrupting the minds of others. He was stoned and thought to have been dead. This is likely when the event he mentions happened to "a man", being Paul himself, in the 1 Cor.12 passage quoted earlier, hearing "unspeakable" things.
Act 17:5-8 But the Jews [mongrels] which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people. And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto the rulers of the city, crying, These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also; Whom Jason hath received: and these all do contrary to the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is another king, [one] Jesus. And they troubled the people and the rulers of the city, when they heard these things.
Too many are afraid to speak out concerning what the Scriptures are saying. Fear of these "jews", and government, is still in the air.
Act 17:12-14 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few. But when the Jews of Thessalonica had knowledge that the word of Yahweh was preached of Paul at Berea, [These Bereans were those that searched the Scriptures rather than listen to their highly educated preachers or fancy eloquently written books] they came thither also, and stirred up the people. And then immediately the brethren sent away Paul to go as it were to the sea: but Silas and Timotheus abode there still.
Act 18:11-13 And he continued [there] a year and six months, teaching the word of Yahweh among them. And when Gallio was the deputy of Achaia, the Jews made insurrection with one accord against Paul, and brought him to the judgment seat, Saying, This [fellow] persuadeth men to worship Yahweh contrary to the law.
The cretin STILL is being persuaded by the mongrel 'jew' that Paul was trying to turn people against obeying the laws of Yahweh, being too ignorant to understand the difference in the Laws of Yahweh, reiterated at Mt. Sinai, and the laws added later in Moab because of transgression to the laws of Yahweh reiterated at Mt. Sinai, of which Paul and Moses makes a clear distinction regarding. I can hear it now, "da dude thats beez sayzin dis musen beez a anti-semite.", not realizing I am but referencing passages in the Scriptures. The only thing he was taught to say properly in school was the phrase "anti-semite" it would seem. Too bad he doesn't know what a Semite is, and who today they are manifest in, for it certainly, according to even "jewish" literature, is not what is commonly called "jews", at least for by far the most part. A Semite is a descendent of Shem. Israylites are Shemites. To be an anti-semite is to be against Shemitic lineage people. When it comes to the lineage of Shem that is through Jacob/Israyl and his pure descendants, you would have a hard time finding one more pro-shemitic than I. When it comes to those claiming to be of pure stock, and yet are not, the table is very much turned, not to mention those that call themselves "jews" yet within their own literature wholeheartedly agree they are not from Shem according to some, nor Abraham according to others, nor Jacob/Israyl according to most, but merely adopted a religion called "judaism", and are actually from other genetic lines, or mixed, and are not of the promised lineage, Rom.9:3-5. That is according to "jews"! It does not mean everyone calling themselves "jews" is mixed either however. The Bereans were part of true Israyl and identified more accurately as Yahudah.
Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Yahudah, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
On your knees BOY! Anyone seen my sword? These mongrel children of the Devil, as Yahshua calls them, were buffeting Paul, while they claimed to be of Yahudah. They were not truly of Israyl. This was Paul's "thorn in the flesh". But let's look further.
Act 19:13-15 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Master Yahshua, saying, We adjure you by Yahshua whom Paul preacheth. And there were seven sons of [one] Sceva, a Jew, [and] chief of the priests, which did so. And the evil spirit answered and said, Yahshua I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
"vagabond Jews" is a rather strange phrase, unless you know what is being pointed at with such terms!
Gen 4:12-13 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. And Cain said unto Yahweh, My punishment [is] greater than I can bear.
This mongrel Cain, adversarial "seed" Gen. 3:15, from a beast of the field and Eve 2Cor.11, being punished, is the "vagabond" type for all time. Yahshua also made a link between these "vagabond jews" and "Cain" in Matt. 23:35. We also see a connection between the "vagabond jews" and the "wicked" in this passage:
Psa 109:10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek [their bread] also out of their desolate places.
But those buffeting Paul are further identified:
Act 20:3 And [there] abode three months. And when the Jews laid wait for him, as he was about to sail into Syria, he purposed to return through Macedonia.
Act 20:19 Serving Yahweh with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews: ---- Remember this word "temptations".
Act 21:27 And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him,
Act 22:22-24 And they gave him audience unto this word, and [then] lifted up their voices, and said, Away with such a [fellow] from the earth: for it is not fit that he should live. And as they cried out, and cast off [their] clothes, and threw dust into the air, The chief captain commanded him to be brought into the castle, and bade that he should be examined by scourging; that he might know wherefore they cried so against him.
They wanted him dead! Why was that? Go back and read in your Scripture what they "gave audience" to hear, until a particular word was spoken. The Kingdom had been taken from them and given to a "nation" bringing forth the fruit thereof. Not a "church", an "ekklesia", a "mamzer" "mongrel" "multi-cultural", "multi-racial" abomination, but a "nation". That nation was "House of Israyl" whom had become "not a people" for a period of time, but would now be "my people" once again. As the "jews" in this passage stopped listening at this point in the message, so too do cretin christians today. All they can think of in their corrupted minds is, "the jews are the chosen people", while they have no idea as to what they really are saying. It is quite a shock to many to find that the first place the erroneous term "jews" is mentioned in the KJV, 2Kings16:5-6, THEY ARE AT WAR WITH HOUSE OF ISRAYL! In that case it is referring to "Yahudites", actual genetic stock Israylites of the House of Judah. The later so-called "jews", or "inhabitants of Jerusalem", "inhabitants of the land", the mongrels, hated Yahshua for teaching these facts regarding the true House of Israyl being the Dominion Mandate recipients in the Glad Tidings of the Kingdom, they hated Paul for it, they will hate you for it. Paul leaves no doubt as to who the "gentiles" he is speaking of is, the House of Israyl, Rom.9:24-26. This is the "uncircumcision", the "gentiles", the "aliens", the "other sheep", the "other husbandmen", the "nation" that is given the Dominion Mandate, the Kingdom. Physical, pure genetic stock House of Israyl, the remnant.
Act 23:12-15 And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul. And they were more than forty which had made this conspiracy. And they came to the chief priests and elders, and said, We have bound ourselves under a great curse, that we will eat nothing until we have slain Paul. Now therefore ye with the council signify to the chief captain that he bring him down unto you to morrow, as though ye would enquire something more perfectly concerning him: and we, or ever he come near, are ready to kill him.
Yahshua said they were of their father the Devil and they come to STEAL, KILL, and DESTROY. He taught the mongrel was responsible for ALL the righteous blood shed, from Abel's onward. Too bad many refuse to heed his warning about the "jews" and other mongrels plaguing true Israyl today. This was known by Yahshua because he knew what they were, "inhabitants of the land" and "inhabitants of Jerusalem" or their descendants which had not been driven out or killed off as was supposed to have happened. Paul said something about these children of Satan as well, and yet we are told by the ignorant to support these "little Devils" in the middle east and around the world by the hirelings in the pulpit today.
1Thes 2:14-15 For ye, brethren, became followers of the Assemblies In Yahweh which in Judaea are in Messiah Yahshua: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they [have] of the Jews: Who both killed the Master Yahshua, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not Yahweh, and are contrary to all men:
These "thorns" are "contrary to all men", and religious cretins hold a "doctrine" "contrary" to the Apostles and Prophets which you are told to "avoid", Rom.16:17. Would this passage get a standing ovation in your assembly, or an angry response toward the one proclaiming it? Who "killed the Master Yahshua"? Romans? "Thorns"! So-called "jews"!
Isa 5:6-7 And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it. For the vineyard of Yahweh of hosts [is] the house of Israyl, [see our tract Parable of the Wicked Husbandmen] and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry.
"Thorns" is what did come up! Mixed breeds! By the time of Yahshua, the Edomite was running the puppet government and the religious services for the most part. Why? Because the mongrels or "inhabitants of the land" had not been driven out or killed off completely! Same stupid sins going on today in the "appointed place", "wilderness" and "isles of the sea" preserved for Israyl from the beginning. What is the solution, the "final solution"? The only solution ever proposed by Yahweh. Not, "let's all just get along"; not throwing money at it; not laws attempting to force messengers of Yahweh to hold their tongue. Will the "final solution" happen? Yes! It is promised! When? After the remnant, being Israylite people, have been taken to the woodshed so much it leaves few alive and that remnant turns to Yahweh in full repentance through the Messiah Yahshua. Not before. The mongrel in the land will continue to oppose the message. If you were to check into the bloodline of those that oppose the Glad Tidings of the Kingdom, the Dominion Mandate extended forth through the blood atonement of Yahshua, you will likely find some pollution in their genetic stock. Yahshua said they "cannot" hear. Somewhere down the line their ancestors probably married something that was out of Scriptural order and ended that line of true Israylites. They are but "children of the Devil". One can know them by "fruits". Salvation is truly out of our hands and by the unmerited favor of Yahweh granted to a remnant before the world was.
Now Paul is said to be sick by some. The word "infirmities" is pointed at attempting to justify their erroneous perspective. The 2Cor.12 passage said Paul gloried in his "infirmities"! It said he would "take pleasure in infirmities". Some would like you to think Paul glorified Yahweh for a sickness and took great pleasure in being sick! They would think to have us believe Paul was telling us his strength was made perfect in being physically sick; that when he was sick he was at his best! Totally absurd since "infirmities" does not always mean a physical sickness.
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
These "infirmities" are not physical sicknesses.
Gal 4:13-14 Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the glad tidings unto you at the first. And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as a messenger of Yahweh, [even] as Messiah Yahshua.
It can be easily seen here that the "infirmity" he is talking about is a "temptation". Now go back to the passage earlier where Paul said the "jews" had been the "temptations", Acts 20:3 & 19. It is the same word used in this passage! The "infirmity" or "temptation" is not a physical sickness. It is the "thorn in the flesh", the "messenger of Satan", the "inhabitants of the land", "inhabitants of Jerusalem", the mongrel children of the Devil. In this case, they were mostly Edomites, children from the mongrel seed line of Esau. Yahweh hated Esau, what about you? Paul gloried in these "infirmities" because Yahweh is given more honor when thwarting the Adversary's plans time and time again. Whenever they would stone, beat, or attempt to murder Paul, he would move on to the next city and spread the truth to more people. They could not keep this man down! The buffeting Paul received from these "thorns" caused the message to be spread far and wide, and Paul was counted worthy to suffer for the cause. So, did the seed of the serpent, these mongrel children of the Devil, these "inhabitants of the land", these "thorns" win? Yahweh delivers in His own good time.
2Ti 3:10-11 But thou hast fully known my doctrine [some people never really know what their preacher believes, many never even care for they are simply attending a social club and that is all they are interested in], manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured [i.e. from the "inhabitants of the land", so-called "jews"]: but out of [them] all Yahweh delivered me.
Paul finally got the victory over ALL of these "temptations" and "infirmities", these "children of the Devil". Those that "deny the power" don't want you to realize Yahweh eventually did deliver Paul from these "thorns". He was soon able to receive ALL that came in unto him, preaching the Kingdom message, not some 'namby-pamby' 'panty waist sermon' like these cowards bore people with today. He received total deliverance, for it says further "NO MAN FORBIDDING HIM" from preaching Messiah, Acts 28:30-31. NO "THORNS" LEFT! Stand your ground, and even the "mountains" will be removed!
Jam 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to Yahweh. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
The victory is a fact already. Don't deny the power in the name of Yahshua! You have been given the power of attorney. The authority has been passed to any true Israylite believer. You can tread on "serpents".
Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Don't expect a crowd! Expect hatred, false accusation, attacks. Just remember it is for your benefit, not your demise. Trust Yahweh!
1Pe 4:12-13 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Messiah's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
He is coming sooner than most think . . . with his reward.

2007-12-14 07:31:51 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 6

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