How about this for once Americans win plaintiffs named in the lawsuit didn't have standing to challenge law?

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U.S. District Judge James Payne on Wednesday dismissed a lawsuit challenging a new state law dealing with illegal immigration.

The National Coalition of Latino Clergy had filed a federal lawsuit against Gov. Brad Henry and Oklahoma Attorney General Drew Edmondson, seeking to overturn House Bill 1804, which became law on Nov. 1.

The suit alleges that the law is unconstitutional and violates rights to due process for undocumented immigrants, who are listed as "John Doe" or "Jane Doe" in the list of plaintiffs.Payne initially dismissed the suit in October because the plaintiffs could not show that the law had damaged them before it took effect.This time the judge granted the state's motion to dismiss because the plaintiffs named in the lawsuit didn't have standing to challenge the law."The court is again confronted with plaintiffs bringing a broad array of constitutional and statutory challenges to a similarly broad array of state statutes," Payne stated in the conclusion of an order filed Thursday. "Again, some plaintiffs ignore the need to describe the injuries actually caused by the challenged statutes, while the illegal alien plaintiffs complain of grievances that could best be remedied by simply compliance with federal law. Both categories of plaintiffs must be dismissed for lack of standing, either on constitutional or prudential grounds."http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=071213_1__USDis24770
Wow... The judge says that if illegal aliens had just followed federal law, they would not have a grievance in the first place. This man might just be the most intelligent person in government. I hope Judge Payne makes it to Supreme Court someday!

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I'm giving this judge a standing ovation!

Answer 2

I applaud this judge and hope more will follow and stand up to support the laws already on the books while extending the rights to the state and local governments to determine and act upon this situation of illegals. The Feds do not do their jobs, even though the law is plainly spelled out for them to follow.

As an employer, it is ILLEGAL for me to determine if an employee is legal or illegal. We are required to fill out the I-9 form, which is then used to support we have done our jobs of checking legal status and INS is now the judge. On one hand, American people think we business owners all are out to hire illegals. Without the control and ability to determine if one is actually Illegal, we cannot fire this employee even if he admits to being illegal. Only the Fed. Govt can determine that. We look at their fake SS cards, green cards, watch them claim 9 dependants @ 20 yrs old and know when looking at them, there is a good chance they are illegal, but we cannot prove it and it is not our place, according to the Fed. Govt. These employees complain about the minimal amount taken out of their checks in the form of SS, because they have claimed so many dependents, they pay little or no state or federal income tax, have no drivers licenses, no insurance and on and on. I call this crap. The states need to join together and create legislation that can be utilized by state/local governments and companies. More over, the people need to join together and stand up to our own government and say "ENOUGH"! DO WHAT WE SAY!

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When I was in debt collections I noticed there was a rule of business that is very hard in stone. The same rule applies in variant form here. You can't collect from real deadbeats of life, it's just too much effort for too little reward. You can only collect from the honest, even the occasionally honesty. The real deadbeats are NEVER honest. The Fed Reserve is a deadbeat. The deadbeat of all deadbeats. Not just in money, but in honor and honesty. Bloomberg won a verdict. Debt collectors win plenty of verdicts, but most are meaningless. Deadbeats are deadbeats. I doubt if Bloomberg will be able to collect. One shark I worked with -- not for long, not for long -- was a fan of something called the "body attachment" or "body warrant". The account rep walked him away from the idea, the shark already had too much bad press. But that's the thing Bloomberg might need to request on these sleazoids of the Fed.

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This Judge rocks. Supreme Court h*ll, President.

To back up Catman: When Ida Castro was head of the EEOC she put into effect the policy that any employer who didn't hire an illegal could be fined and sued for Racial Discrimination by the EEOC on behalf of the illegal if they couldn't prove they had enough of their particular race employed there already.

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It's like a bank robber suing the bank because he tripped and broke his leg when he fell on a customer he told to get on the floor as he was robbing the bank. One for the side of those of us that want our immigration laws enforced

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Its actually kind of sad that a judge upholding the law is deemed newsworthy... this should be the rule, not the exception. But, good for him for doing it.

Answer 7

I agree whole-heartedly,this guy could be useful on the Supreme Court. I guess sometimes the good guys do win!!

YTP

Answer 8

Finial someone with some common since

Answer 9

Great post...thanks for sharing.
I am happy with this decision.

What the judge has said is that any perceived suffering is a result of illegal activity.

Answer 10

We need more people like him in positions of power.