many others examining the same set of natural laws do not see god. Why do you or do you not see god in nature?
2007-12-13 13:09:50 · 31 answers · asked by Gawdless Heathen 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I would need to know which definition of god is being used in order to answer this question thoroughly and accurately. The great philosopher Baruch Spinoza used a definition of god that quite literally could be translated as the natural universe and the laws of physics that govern this incomprehensibly grand and vast universe. This definition of god is nothing like the personal god in which the christians, muslims, jews, etc, believe in. These gods are obviously man made, shallow, self-serving, and ludicrous to the rational mind. The so called holy books of these vile religions are pathetic on many levels. Spinoza’s god is the god in which Einstein claimed to believe in. It’s almost criminal when I see a person like ‘karate’ claim, “Einstein himself was convinced that there must be a God.” Einstein claimed to believe in Spinoza’s god; not any supernatural personal god that concerns itself with the affairs of humans. He was constantly badgered by hypocritical fundamentalist christians to admit to his lack of belief or atheism. In his time it was even more difficult to admit to atheism due to undesirable social ramifications. He did say, “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” However, his definition of religion was much like his definition of god. Einstein’s religion was simply a great appreciation of the universe and the laws of physics. It had nothing at all to do with prayer or worship of a single deity. My beliefs are much like those of Einstein. My appreciation for the grand nature of this universe and my ability to comprehend it are mind boggling. I wonder just how much more someone as intelligent and knowledgeable as Einstein was able to appreciate the same thing we all are being exposed to in this life. I think to believe in a personal god such as the god of Abraham trivializes this whole experience of life and it is based on fear. Fear is a negative emotion and its association with these disgusting religions makes me want to have nothing to do with any of them. If the universe consists of everything, then any god would have to be part of it; not separate from it, and the most logical way for me to look at it is exactly how Spinoza did.
2007-12-13 15:16:31 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
You couldn't possibly believe that a house just came up on its own; because logic dictates that it must have been built by someone. As science says, "Nothing could happen without a cause." Hence, nothing could be built without a builder; nothing could appear without a Creator. Hebrews 3:4 - "For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God." Now, looking a the natural world, "that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse" (Romans 1:19-20). Yet, "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God" (Psalms 14:1).
2016-05-23 11:24:20 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It comes from your basis of understanding your natural world around you. If your basis is a christian background you see what god has provided. Otherwise, you see what nature has provided. As a Pagan you see what god/goddess has provided as well as the elementals that care for nature. As I went from christian to Pagan I developed a bigger heart for nature and it became a spiritual communion. As an Atheist I still see it as a spiritual communion. Even as a christian I had a spiritual connection to nature though not as strong as I do now. Everything is energy and we can communicate with these energies and take care of each other. God never communed with me as nature does. Tells me something on the validity of both respectively.
2007-12-13 16:09:04 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
I am not scientist and people can call me stupid or whatever, but to me there is just too much complexity and order in nature for it to have happened without a designer. I know that people will say where did God come from? I don't know the answer to that, but it just seems more logical to me that a supernatural being has always existed rather than matter has always existed. Matter certainly cannot create itself, so logically it must have had a creator. Just the fact that anything exists at all to me is mind boggling and then when you consider the complexity of everything in the universe, to me it points to intelligent design, so I see God in everything.
2007-12-13 14:06:34 · answer #4 · answered by going postal 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
I see both the Goddess and the God and their inherent connections everything- each of us and everything else in nature included; because it's right there.
I don't see how I would be unable to see something that is so much a part of myself that it's as natural as breathing.
Blessed be.
2007-12-13 16:47:27 · answer #5 · answered by Vermillion 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Because some religions believe that the God and Goddess are everywhere, including in the nature They created. I believe that everything has its own magickal properties and vibrations. Have you ever made a crystal radio? It will run on the power of a crystal from the Earth.
2007-12-13 13:14:13 · answer #6 · answered by wiccanhpp 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
The debate is eternal and I don't feel like going into it at the moment, except to say that, "Atheist Machine" is wrong. Many scientists DO believe in God. Einstein himself was convinced that there must be a God.
Science may not prove God, but it certainly does not eliminate him and for some, it confirms.
2007-12-13 13:16:00 · answer #7 · answered by karate 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
I see a lot of really simple laws of nature working to create complex things.
2007-12-13 15:28:53 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
I see both the God and Godess in Nature all the time. I believe All Natural things have their own spirit
2007-12-13 13:14:10 · answer #9 · answered by Lord Lothian 3 · 4⤊ 1⤋
nature is sexy
sex is the closest thing i have to a god
therefore nature is the closest thing i have to a god =P
Seriously though, its like the tale of the blind men and the elephant. Each one touches different parts of the elephant and by doing so gets a different idea of what an elephant is. In order to get the best grip on reality, we must touch as much of the 'elephant' as possible :)
(translation: keep exploring!)
2007-12-13 13:13:26 · answer #10 · answered by It's a lamp! 4 · 5⤊ 1⤋