i used hot water (soapy) run patches thru got it all out i thought it should have been dry !! i went to fire it and i have to add powder under the nipple to get it to fire ... is it because when i rod it it .... it blocks the way thru to the nipple?? i have black powder solvent,,,,,breech plug grease,,,,,all-natural muxxleoading lube,,, i use pyrodex (select hodgdon )
2007-12-13 10:21:48 · 6 answers · asked by gwapps007 1 in Sports ➔ Outdoor Recreation ➔ Hunting
I agree with CIH, next time you clean the rifle, take the nipple out. And use boiling water for a final rinse.
Then, before you load the rifle at the range, pop a couple or three caps to make sure the flashhole is clear and dry.
I also suggest you ditch the Pyrodex and try either Elephant Brand FFg Blackpowder, or Swiss brand FFg blackpowder. It smells better, and is no harder to clean than that stinking Pyrodex.
Doc
2007-12-13 16:18:26 · answer #1 · answered by Doc Hudson 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Did you remove the nipple when you cleaned it? If not, you could have some damp gunk built up in the nipple drum. Take out the nipple and the plug in the side of the nipple drum and wash it out with hot soapy water. Use a breach plug scraper to remove any gunk from the face ot the breach plug. Then rinse with boiling water that you pour through the muzzle. Allow it to drain completely and spray a generoud amount of WD40 into the bore. Run several patches through the bore to finish drying it out. Use a fine copper wire to clean out the nipple and rinse it and then spray it with WD40 and wipe it off. Better yet would be to simply replace the nipple. If they have had the hammer snapped on them without a cap in place, the nipple can become damaged and that can be a source of trouble. Run a pipe cleaner through the clean out hole in the nipple drum to be sure that you have it completely clean. Reassemble your gun and run another dry patch through the bore to makesure that there is no oil left in it. Load your gun and it ought to go bang for you.
Oh, since you are using a black powder substitute, that could be part of the problem. The substitutes work quite well with the in-line muzzleloaders but the traditional styles like yours sometimes have trouble igniting the substitute powders. The substitutes have a higher ignition temp. than regualr black powder. They USUALLY work fine but there are times when they can be a bit cantankerous. They are completely useless in a flintlock, though. Switch to regular ffG or fffG black powder and you should have no more problems.
If you try all of this and are still having problems, you may need to take it to a gunsmith to have him remove the breach plug take a look at it.
Do you belong to the NRA and NMLRA (National Muzzleloading Rifle Assoc.). If not, do yourself a favor and join today. Both organizations need and want you as a member.
2007-12-13 21:35:29 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
If you used natural lube or something like it, make sure you wipe as much as you can out of the barrel before loading it. Remove the nipple and make sure the flash hole is clear and use a nipple pick to be sure the fire will reach the powder. If the flash hole is clear and the powder is good, you shouldn't have any problem getting the gun to fire. Black powder guns must be kept extremely clean to function properly. Also, you might try a new nipple like a hot-shot to get a little more fire to the powder. Have fun shooting and always wear ear and eye protection when shooting.
2007-12-13 18:39:12 · answer #3 · answered by geobert24 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I've been shooting black powder guns for almost 40yrs. All I ever use to clean them is hot soapy water and a tight patch. I pull the nipple and stick the breech end of the barrel in a pail of hot soapy water and push and pull a tight patch back and forth through the barrel. It gets a kind of pump action going pulling water up through the nipple and pushing it back out again. After the barrel is clean, I pour boiling water into the bore and let it leak out the nipple hole. This heats the barrel up and it dries in just a few minutes. I run a couple of lightly lubed patches down the bore and shes done.
2007-12-13 18:53:21 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
You should also use a nipple brush to insert through and clean that area out of fouling as well. Make sure you use a good oil/lubricant after cleaning it to prevent the barrel from rusting inside. I recomend the last thing you do, after cleaning it is run a patch soaked in Breakfree clip in a few times. When it dries, breakfree leaves a dry protectant on the metal to protect it without causing the fresh loaded powder to get wet.
2007-12-13 19:17:00 · answer #5 · answered by randy 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
After cleaning, make sure the bore, is completely dry & the nipple, is dry & clear
2007-12-13 19:14:14 · answer #6 · answered by Roger W 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋