All I know about Messianic Jews is that other Jewish congregations don't accept them as Jewish, since believing in Jesus goes against the basic tenets of Judaism.
2007-12-13 09:54:11
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answered by princess_iris 3
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Messianic Judaism is not Judaism as others have said.
But, many of the people who have converted to Judiasm at our shul went through that step. If messianic Judaism is a camp in your journey, then you will have to stop there and learn whatever it is that you are supposed to learn there.
There are fundamental differences between Judaism and christianity that go far beyond the christian belief in the person they worship. It has to do with accepting responsibility for our own actions. As Jews we understand there is a way Hashem wants us to live our life. Doing the mitzvot IS the way to establish our connection with Hashem. This concept is basic to Judaism. Christianity teaches an exemption from following the Torah.
But don't be afraid to visit a few shuls before you make your decision. Talk to the rabbi frankly about where you are and the rabbi may be able to help you.
May you be blessed in your spiritual journey,
Gershon
2007-12-13 21:58:41
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answered by Gershon b 5
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Having actually been a messianic jewish minister at one time, I can say that I have some expertise in this area.
Those who state that messianic jews are christian are correct. There are a few words/phrases that are said in Hebrew, but you'd easily catch on, as most of them are very close to full gospel churches.
You might want to take a look at the following site if this is something you and your husband are interested in:
http://messianic.com
2007-12-13 10:14:51
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answered by Kallan 7
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there are some REALLY good answers on this, explaining in extreme depth of why these people are not jewish.
I can't think of anything that hsasn't already been said.
the bottom line summary of highlights to reinforce...
1) nobody can be jewish and belive in jesus. period.
2) there are ABSOLUTELY no legitimately Jewish groups that consider those groups to be Jewish. far from "Grafted in"
honestly these people are an offense against God in their betrayal, offensive against the Jewish people, and any Christians who are proud to be christian, should be offended about it... why? because basically these people are christian, but are so ashamed of having converted to christianity that they do not even accept the name and call themselves christian publically.
Christians, if you talked to someone who claimed to be the same variety fo christian as you were, and then explained that while they are still christian, they do not believe that Jesus was the messiah and/or God's son, or even actually existed.
imagine someone asserting tha thtye are the same religion as you, but their beliefs are something absolutely contrary to the most fundamental belief of your religion.
some will likely say "well these beliefs in this case are not contrary to that!" ... which is the entire focus of the deception of "messianic Judaism" ... they *ARE* absolutely contrary.
edit: lol, for not having anything to say that wasn't said sure found alot to ramble about didn't I? heh.
2007-12-13 18:44:03
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answered by Anonymous
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'messianic jews' are Christians: this is a basic fact. They have the same beliefs as all other Christians, but they dress the theology up to try and make it appeal to 'real' Jews. Groups like 'jews for jesus' began PURELY as an attempt to convert Jews.
If you are interested in real Judaism, that is one thing, and there is nothing to stop you learning about it, visiting a synagogue, and so on. But please appreciate that 'messianic jews' are not recognised by ANYONE in the worldwide Jewish community. They distort what Judaism is all about.
A person cannot be both Jewish and Christian - any more than they can be both Muslim and Catholic, or Hindu and Protestant. Christianity and Judaism are really, really different.
If you don't quite believe me, you are welcome to come and post the same question in the Israel forum, in Travel.
A website that will clarify what I have said, and answer many of your questions, is http://www.jewsforjudaism.org
EDIT
I am saddened by some of the answers that continue to support 'messianic judaism'. It shows no respect for those of us who actually are of the Jewish faith. How would you guys feel if WE went around distorting what YOU believe in???
Indeed, the very term, 'messianic judaism' only shows how LITTLE these people understand Judaism. For Judaism is intrinsically messianic; the Tanakh/'old' testament is full of advice and guidance on how to recognise the real messiah. We believe that the real messiah will appear. We just don't believe it was Jesus, and we have excellent reasons for this belief.
'messianic jews' help nobody. They are not Jewish, and they should be open and proud to be Christian. Or, if they really prefer Judaism, then at least have the integrity to research the faith properly and if necessary, consider conversion.
2007-12-13 09:54:42
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answered by Anonymous
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This is NOT Judaism! Messianic Judaism is a Christian movement that began in the 1970s combining a mixture of Jewish ritual and Christianity. There are a vast and growing numbers of these groups, and they differ in how much Jewish ritual is mixed with conventional Christian belief. One end of the spectrum is represented by Jews For Jesus, who simply target Jews for conversion to Christianity using imitations of Jewish ritual solely as a ruse for attracting the potential Jewish converts. On the other end are those who don't stress the divinity of Jesus, but present him as the "Messiah." They incorporate distorted Jewish ritual on an ongoing basis.
2007-12-13 09:57:14
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answered by Anonymous
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Many people, Christians and some Jews as well, erroneously believe that just as one can be Black and Christian, just as one can be Oriental and Christian, one can also be Jewish and Christian. It is not true. The Jews are not a race. There is no genetic code passed from either mother or father to the child that makes that child a Jew. Even if all, or some, of the genetic code in a child could be proved to be of Jewish Origin, that would not make the child a Jew. Jewish law determines who is a Jew, and Jewish law is quite clear. If a person's mother is a Jew, and that person has not converted to another faith, then that person will be considered fully Jewish, so long as that person wishes to identify solely as a Jew. Although one cannot convert to become a member of a race, for example one cannot convert to become an Oriental or an African-American, one who converts to Judaism does, indeed, become fully a Jew. Similarly, if one converts from Judaism to another faith, one is no longer a Jew.
2007-12-13 09:57:41
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answered by kismet 7
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Grafted in???? Anyone who believes in a man-made god cannot possibly be a Jew. The belief that God would become human is the ultimate heresy!
From "Judaism for Everyone" by Rabbi Shmuley Boteach:
…Jews felt that, in Christianity, their core teachings had been perverted and abused. They read some of the New Testament’s insidious attacks against them and wondered how a book claiming divine authorship can be so blatantly anti-Semitic. Although Christianity stemmed from Jewish origin, it took the concept of the Jewish God and associated it with a man; took the concept of sacrifice and associated it with a human sacrifice. Christianity took their cherished Torah and said that it had been superseded by a new testament. And finally, it took the concept of the chosen nation itself, claimed that the Jews had been abandoned by God, and called themselves the new Israel. Jews reacted with outrage. The Jews withdrew from mainstream Christian society. Christians’ burning Jews at the stake as heretics would do little to make them draw closer.
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2007-12-13 15:03:45
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answered by Hatikvah 7
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Messianic "Judaism" was begun by a Baptist minister. It is a Xian sect that uses Jewish symbols and words to try to fool Jews into converting to Xianity--there is nothing Jewish about them!! Countless chief rabbis have spoken on the subject denouncing them as such. I second what everyone else said.
2007-12-13 15:24:15
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answered by LadySuri 7
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Mom was a Jew and dad was Christian. If I am a Jew, as the son of a Jew, as a Christian I guess I would be a messianic Jewish Christian myself!
The messianic Jewish group is literally an alliance of Hebrew Christians who believe in Jesus!
But messianic Jews retain their Jewish identity (something I do not want to do).
When "MJAA" was founded in the summer of 1979 there were initially thirty-three congregations.
Daniel Juster was the first president, but several persons were involved in bringing the alliance into existence.
Messianic Jewes attribute the founding of Messianic Judaism to their Messiah, Yeshua, or Jesus of Nazareth.
A messianic Jewish Christian believes that the Bible, consisting of the Tanach, or the Old Covenant Scriptures, and the B'rit Chadasha, or the New Covenant Scriptures, is the inspired and authoritative Word of God.
They believe in one God as declared in the Sh'ma (Deuteronomy 6:4), who is Echad, or a compound unity and eternally existent in three forms: God, the Father, God, the Son, and God, the Holy Spirit.
They believe in Yeshua, or Jesus, as the Messiah, in coordination with His deity, His virgin birth, His sinless life, His atoning death, His bodily resurrection, His ascension, and His future return in power and glory.
I could say "WE" believe these things; but I have never been a practicing Jew.
I was an unbeliever for a time, but my faith wanderings always were various Christian churches.
My best friend was a Jew, and he almost convinced me to go into his synagogue. I walked up to it, but chickened out.
I've been in conservative Jewish family members' homes, but never in a synagogue (so I do not see myself as Jewish, although Hitler would!).
I see myself as JUST a Christian! But we have a family friend in "Jews for Jesus" which seems messianic Jewish to me.
2007-12-13 17:40:15
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answered by Anonymous
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