For those who say people choose to be gay?

Question

I have but one question, how does said person turn off their heterosexual feelings? Personally, if a woman stood in front of me naked, nothing would happen, but if a man did, it would. How exactly does someone turn off and on these attractions and bodily functions?

And don't use the nurture argument, it won't work, my family was a very traditionally Conservative Lutheran family.

This question is for those who say it is a CHOICE.

Answer 1

I honestly don't think it's a personal choice for ALL. I know some people are born feeling the way they feel. But, I also have a family member who was straight for many many years, no "signs" of being gay or anything (I hate using the word signs, but I lack a better word.) Then she was raped, and shortly after she decided to be gay. I don't think her feelings for the opposite sex ever "turned off." But, I do think that she decided to be gay because she had such a traumatic experience that she is actually repulsed by the idea of being with a man again.

In most cases, I believe that most gay people are born that way. I also believe that there are some people who choose to be gay, but I really don't think their feelings ever really go away. They may be doused for a time, or they may really not be into anymore. I think it would take something very traumatic like what happened to my family member, or worse, for it to REALLY make all feelings go away.

Answer 2

I don't think it's a choice, but I'll answer anyway. I'm special like that. :]

I don't think you can "turn off" such feelings. And I don't think any amount of counselling or "nurture" can "fix" the "problem," or so they claim it is.

What I don't get, is why would someone CHOOSE to be gay? I don't know about where you live, but where I live, anyone that's "not straight" is ridiculed on a daily basis. They're tormented and they suffer for their own natural feelings.

Hell, I have a friend that was attacked, and stabbed in a couple places, for being bisexual. She lives a couple states away from me, hence proving that this isn't the only place that gays haven't quite been fully accepted yet.

No one would "choose" to be gay, if they really COULD make a choice, and choose to feel nothing for members of the same sex. It just doesn't work like that, case closed.

In some cases, you can choose not to act on it. For instance, I have a friend that's bisexual, but chooses only to date men for the time being. He has reasons for this, which I understand and fully support.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: I will love whoever the fxck I want, whyever the fxck I want, whenever the fxck I want, and I'll show that love however the fxck I want. To anyone that doesn't like that, fxck you.

I will love whoever I wish. As a friend put it, "I don't give two sh!ts what's in pants. I don't care about bodies or sexual organs, I care what's in the heart. Because that's what matters." He didn't "choose" to feel that way, either. He just does. He's indifferent to sex, because he cares about the heart -- something gays are willing to accept, but homophobics apparently can't. And quite frankly, it's pathetic.

Answer 3

You said:
< And don't use the nurture argument, it won't work, my family was a very traditionally Conservative Lutheran family >

That doesn't mean squat. There are always reasons kept secret in our lives that make us who we are. Influences that affect our emotions and the decisions we make. If you are biologically male, then technically you should behave as such. If 90-something percent of males and females are attracted to the gender that best suits their body design, then you must look for other causes that contradict that. It's more than physical which is what you are describing. Relationship is not strictly sexually based. I don't know you or your history enough to observe a cause for what you experience. I don't even know that I can believe you because many people do not tell the complete truth just so they can make a point. I do know what the Apostle Paul said. Homosexuality was prevalent in Roman culture in his time and he made reference to it.

Whether something happens to you when you see certain people naked or not does not sway my opinion. I would not expect that going to church or muttering what would be meaningless words of repentance for you, to change you all at once. I do know that sincere repentance would give you a whole new perspective. Sincere being the key word. A Christian walk is a constant battle of what we call fleshly desires vs the spiritual. The CHOICE comes when you sincerely repent of sin in your life then you allow the transformation of God and His Word to work in your life.

That's the only CHOICE.

Answer 4

Hi Vik-Estoy

I think you might be asking the wrong question. The question you should be asking is "What is human?" Are we simply the product of genes and environment, machines driven by feelings, or are we free agents?

Most people today would say we are machines that cannot help but follow our feelings, whatever they might be. But I think we are free agents - we can make choices - for better or worse.

The man-as-machine philosophy is a relatively new, but pervasive, belief. It is subtly promoted, with the best of intentions, by education, media, entertainment, and psychology. It is intended to eliminate the feelings of guilt associated with violating traditional taboos. It does not work as intended.

It does, however, produce a feeling of helplessness for many people. The I-can't-help-it-I-was-made-this-way syndrome. I can't help beating my wife, I was made this way. I can't help doing drugs, I was made this way. I can't help stealing, I was made this way. There is an appearance of truth to these claims because we are each tempted in our own unique way.

But it can be an excuse to give up, to surrender you life to something less than human, the uncontrolled, unexamined life of the brute. Socrates said, "The unexamined life is not worth living." What he meant is we should look at ourselves and the world and how we make our way in this world, evaluating our actions and our purpose, so that we may live a good life - he would call it a "virtuous life."

Unless the man-as-machine people are correct, we are always making choices. Sometimes they are hard choices, sometimes they are easy choices, and sometimes we just choose not to choose - to just go with the flow. But if we are free agents then our life is one long sequence of choices and how we respond to those choices, the decisions we make, will determine whether we live as brutes or humans.

Dave

Answer 5

think of roughly it. how lots of people who say "human beings choose to be gay" are particularly gay themselves... like under a million%. and for all all of us understand that a million% could have jut been bisexual the completed time and not knew it. or they could only be lieing. the two way like ninety 9.9% of the individuals who say "you choose to be gay" are in certainty straight away. so how in heck are they meant to appreciate if a gay guy or woman chooses to be gay or no longer? the respond is, they do no longer understand. they only have faith what they like to have faith. substitute Naim, it somewhat is great which you will choose to no longer be gay, yet after all if it grew to become into such an consumer-friendly determination so which you will circulate from liking the same intercourse to liking the alternative intercourse you have been possibly by no ability gay to start with. i might say you're bisexual or your between the numerous trolls on right here who declare to be an ex gay. in case you probably did in certainty substitute from gay to heterosexual kudos to you. you probably did what hundreds of homosexuals ought to no longer after attending months at ex gay camps. im particular the yankee Physiological association might prefer to appreciate which you discovered a thank you to alter your sexual orientation seeing as their expert scientific care instructions by no ability worked out... "thus far, there has been no scientifically sufficient study to teach that scientific care aimed in direction of changing sexual orientation (additionally standard as reparative or conversion scientific care) is risk-free or valuable" even even you particularly did substitute, do no longer assume that all of us else can. sexual orientation is lots greater complicated than you think of.

Answer 6

To some extent, the issue is muddled.

Some say that "gay" is the internally originated desires and whatnot. This, generally, cannot be changed. You'll be attracted to what you're attracted to. (If you're Bi, which Kinsey says most humans are to some extent, then you can learn or be nurtured to ignore part of that attraction, though.)

Others, who wish to frame it as a choice for whatever purpose, choose to define "gay" as being entirely rooted in action. If you are attracted to males, but marry a woman then you're not gay. In this use of words, it's a choice. But it's not intellectually honest, as you're ignoring the harm such a choice would entail when declaring it to be a frivolous choice. It's also a fudging of definition, ignoring the existance of people who fall into the area of unchangable desire.

Answer 7

Homosexuality is a clear disorder....It has scientifically proven to be a malfunction in the human body, especially the body-mind connection. The behaviour itself is gross and many such as you try your best to make all sorts of justifications.

Lets say that down the line humans start wishing to have sex with animals (some sickos already do)...will you say that is natural and their decision. Incest is also decision, shall we accept that as well.

There are two aspects to this: The first aspect is men who have sexual feelings for the same sex. This is a disorder and can be corrected in a number of ways.

The second aspect is men who act on these instincts, which they do because they have lost a sense of discrimination between good-bad, negative-positive. Moreover they wish to live a life characterised by the absence of light, goodness, virtue, righteousness, health, nature, positivity, normality etc etc etc.

However, I personally do NOT hate Gays, although I do find it sinful and disghusting. The reason for that is because according to my religion we are living in an era called "kali yuga" where such despicable types of behaviour will indubitably take place. However, when the era changes to "satya yug" (the era of truth), all the filth that has accumulated in the world will be destroyed.

Answer 8

It is not a choice.

Still, one must distinguish between the moral issues of desire and actual acts. Desire is not sinful, only consentful (one is full aware of what they are doing) actions are.

However, just because someone has a strong desire to do something does not make the action morally correct. Studies show that some people are more genetically prone to be alcoholic, but that does not give them a right or excuse to be an alocoholic and such a notion directly goes against free will. Programs like 12 steps would not exist, if people could do nothing about their desires.

The genetic basis of homosexuality has not yet been established. It may or may not exist. Nurture may play a role in developing homosexuality, so it would be imprudent to completely rule it out as a cause. I believe there is most likely a genetic and nuruturing aspect to it.

Homosexual actions are sinful because, in christianity, any sexual act outside of the sanctified union of marriage is sinful. It would be equally sinful for heterosexuals to have sex outside of marriage. Homosexuality also goes against the intedend and principal design of the sexual act and the gender roles respective to the male and female. The sexual act is sacred in christianity because it is intended to bring about a new human life and God participates in the act by the creation of a new and immortal soul. In christianity sex is a unity of two persons literally becoming one (a baby) not just a unity of body parts. Each person offers themselves completely in the act, including the gift of their individual fertility.

Establishing all of that, homosexuals are person's called to unity with Christ as all people are and should never be ostracized, hated, disrespected, etc. by any christians, anywhere at any time. Their incilination is no fault of their own and they should be treated with the upmost compassion and christian charity. The catechism of the catholic church as this to say:

"2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection."

Answer 9

I agree with you on this. I hate it when straight people try to act like they know everything about homosexuals when they know nothing. Saying its a choice, ignore it, your doing it for attention, that its disgusting, or use the old testament to say you'll burn in hell. Whether or not its genetic or just the way you are raised-- it doesn't matter, its not a choice! This is what makes me dislike religion so much, it tells people its okay to be ignorant. Then they use the "i had a gay friend" to make it their opinion seem alright.

And for the ignore it thing, try ignoring the opposite sex for a month. Don't look, touch or think about them. You'll go sexually insane.

Answer 10

...First, are you a true born-again believer in Jesus Christ? If not, you have more problems that you thought. Your deepest need is salvation in Jesus Christ - nothing is more important that this. You must have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ for Him to help you.
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...If you have trusted in Christ as Savior, God calls us to change as His word directs and become more like Jesus, which includes repenting of known sin. In Scripture we are told that to engage in homosexual behavior is a sin - but sin can be forgiven and we must go on and change.
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...Homosexuality (aka vile affections, going after strange flesh) is a life-dominating sin. It will take prayer, Bible study, being careful of the places one goes and having the right kind of acquaintances, perhaps even help from a Christian counselor. There are ministries to help homosexuals change and embrace the heterosexual lifestyle.
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...There are real success stories, where people have overcome these urges and lifestyle, and are now happily married in heterosexual marriages. This is denied by secular counselors who are atheists and agnostic, who disbelieve the Scriptures - they frankly find it quite embarrasing that their methods don't work.
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...A side note: Homosexuality used to be considered deviant behavior by the secular psychiatric community, but they could not (and still cannot) cure it, so they chose to accept it as normal, since they couldn't cure it.
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...P.S. Only a fool lives by his feelings - if this were the way to live, none of us would rise in the morning and go to work, because most people don't "feel like it".