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I applied for a job with them. I'm really into volunteering. I'm a scout leader, volunteer at the local animal shelter, active member of the community and applied for a job with the Salvation Army. They called me in for an interview and all was going well until... they asked me about a personal experience with God. I told them I'm not religious and they almost immediately told me I will not be concidered for the job.

What's the deal?? Can they really do that?

By the way, I'm not talking about being one of those people who rings a bell and collects change, I'm talking about a real office job within the organization.

2007-12-13 02:59:36 · 32 answers · asked by Dr. E. Bunny A.K.A. Andy. 7 in Society & Culture Community Service

I'm more than qualified and my experience in this field I was applying for is more than any of the other candidates.

2007-12-13 03:00:30 · update #1

32 answers

Go consult with an Atty but then do not call yourself very charitable. The organization is clearly based on a religious foundation. Right, wrong? but who do you think will pay for your lawsuit in the end, right, those who could have been help if the funds were not used to fight your allegations.

2007-12-13 03:05:16 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

Not sure if this is applicable to you, since you were not hired at all, but you can always try. (Try the link)

Honestly though, if you're going to start a war with them, its not likely to land you a job in the future, with them, if that's what you want. I would try with another organization and forget them, especially if you do go ahead and file. Considering that you know how they feel now, do you really think you would have enjoyed working for them? Its best to get these sorts of things worked out early in the work relationship, otherwise you'll be miserable while working there.

2007-12-13 03:05:43 · answer #2 · answered by stcpcpm1mom 3 · 1 0

Call an employment attorney, or better check with a few of them. You may run into the "men in blue' thing. Just like nobody wants to think a cop would lie, they don't want to think a Salvation Army Officer would do anything wrong. Attorney's may be reluctant to take something like this because they are afraid of what a jury would think when they see the Salvation Army uniform.

Also, be sure to prepare what losses you have incurred due to this. Tort law is based on actual loss for the most part.

2007-12-13 03:05:16 · answer #3 · answered by lifecoachmike 3 · 0 2

Hi Dr. E. Please do not take the opinions of legal lay persons as fact.

I did some checking, & the fact is that the Salvation Army IS breaking the law, by discriminating on a religious basis.

Normally a religious organization can chose to hire only people of a certain religious persuasion.

However, the Salvation Army is NOT exempt from US Discrimination Law, because they take GOVERNMENT MONEY in order to operate!!!!!!!

As the current right-wing administration has been in power for MUCH too long, more & more of this nonsense has been given the "nod", even though it is against the law.

As a result, when the government is theoretically supposed to UPHOLD the law, this one is actually condoning its circumvention......(War in Iraq, anyone?)

You do have a case, if you're of a mind to pursue it. Below, I have pasted a link that is extremely pertinent to your specific question.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hamilton/20010802.html

Good Luck!

David

2007-12-14 09:33:08 · answer #4 · answered by David L 2 · 1 2

Salvation Army started with Religious roots.

If you applied to an Anglican Church as a staff member and you told them you are athiest...uhmmm yeah I would hire you. (not a chance)

Why press charges. Get over it and move on. You are pressing charges against an institution that is there to help the less fortunate and you want to just stir up some SH!T.

Drop it and apply somewhere else.

2007-12-13 03:04:17 · answer #5 · answered by ? 6 · 6 1

It is a non-profit organization, so you cannot press charges. It is an organization where believers in God get together and do good, if you're not religious, you don't meet the criteria.

Legally, you don't have a leg to stand on. Morally, if you are really the good, altruistic person you make yourself out to be, you will respect their decision, and would not want to take any actions that would cause any sort of harm to a charitable organization. If you sued them, you'd lose, but it would cost them money, money that otherwise would have bought christmas presents for little kids... what does that say about you?

2007-12-13 03:02:51 · answer #6 · answered by czekoskwigel 5 · 10 1

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2016-10-11 05:06:48 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

You cannot "press charges." There is no crime here. What you are impliedly claiming is discrimination based on religion, or a lack there of, which would be a civil rights claim. You don't have recourse under any criminal statute unless your state has made this a crime, which I am sure they have not. You will never get any attorney to bring this case in civil or criminal court.

i am not saying that they did not discrminate against you, and they are probably not exempt from any anti-discrimination laws b/c they get federal money. what your problem, and the reason i would turn this case down as an attorney is b/c you will never prove your case. they are not required to give you a reason for not hiring you. where is your evidence? how could i even lay a foundation for the question? i would get sued for suing them. it is not a question of law, it is a question of fact. you don't have any facts on your side.

2007-12-13 03:19:25 · answer #8 · answered by the hump 3 · 4 1

If you think you have a grievance, hire an attorney.

But the bottom line is some jobs have basic requirements that you must meet. Some of them religion or faith based. For example before you can be a priest in a protestant denomination you must belong to that denomination.

The Salvation Army is a Christian based services organization, and as such can place that kind of a requirement on new hires.

cheers.

2007-12-13 03:06:16 · answer #9 · answered by Perplexed 5 · 4 2

My understanding of the employment protection laws, or what's left of them - is that not only can't do that, they can't even ask that question legally.

For a volunteer position, it would be different, on those I believe they can screen any way they want to. Paid jobs are covered under the Fair Employment Act.

To press it, you will have to either file a complaint with the local Labor Board (who may then sue them for you) or you will have to hire a lawyer.

To all those people claiming a Christian organization can refuse to hire non Christians.... if Burger King was bought out by the Said family (royal family of Saudi Arabia) ((which is not entirely impossible by the way)) and they refused to hire your kid becasue he wasn't muslim you'd be spitting nails all the way to the lawyer's office. Fair employment is fair employment, you can't be turned down because your'e gay, black, white, fat, old, jewish or anything else. For reinforcement look up the case last year where Hooters in Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina got sued (and lost ) because they wouldn't hire women who weren't "babes".
Now, thanks to that suit, any woman who needs a job can go into a Hooters and apply, they don't have to look like a supermodel to work there.

2007-12-13 03:04:58 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 4

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