If science has yet to prove our existance, what makes you so sure it will?

Question

There was a time before (or lack there of because time essentially didnt exist) but we all know there was a big bang, no matter how far you go back to the concept of energy, the concept of matter, the concept of everything as you know...there was a beginning to all this. It has not existed forever, anything in this universe lives by the laws of it and by all researchable accounts, no matter of infinities exist (until the greatest astrophysicist says otherwise I will believe him over some person on yahoo answers) and the big bang was the beginning of all existance...as "WE" know it.

So, you think the more we find out about science the more we find God obsolete. But God doesnt live by the same laws of this universe. You use your science as if God lives by the same standard of our universal reality?Just because this universe cant be infinitedoesntmeanGod cant. God isnt of this universenor does itfollow its same standards. Life has no meaning without a superior being,d u not agree?

Answer 1

I'm afraid science hasn't even proved this Big Bang theory. They think that's what happened but even more then that no one can say where did all these elements came from or what cause this Big Bang to happen since their was movement because their was gravity and the temperature in space is freezing.

Answer 2

"Life has no meaning without a superior being,d u not agree?"

No, I don't agree. First, who said life had to have a meaning? Who said or proved that a superior being added meaning in the first place? Seriously, think about it a bit, where do you get the concept of a meaning from?

As we look at science and God, it is clear that science is not in the business of dealing with any god as there is no direct, repeatable evidence of any gods. So, in order to determine the existence of a god, we need to look at things the god(s) were recorded as doing, and determine if there is any evidence that they happened. This is why the big bang and evolution are significant as they show that the creation story is apparently wrong. Similarly, the flood, exodus, sun stopping etc all have no evidence to support them.

Answer 3

Because Science has a great track record of discovery verses all the mythic belief systems mankind has had in the past.

The fact that you goto the bathroom indoors, have a heated/cooled house are typing to people all over the world from your living room or workplace, and know why your feet are firmly planted on the ground, are all results of scientific discovery.

If you want to rely on a personal flavor of God, or a book written and adjusted for thousands of years, that is fine, but you cannot deny that science has a better track record of providing tangible goodness to mankind verses the feelings promoted by religion.

If you do, then you are just ignoring facts for faith again.

When was the last time, someone studying the bible discovered something that provided a tangible benefit to mankind during this life? It doesn't really happen.

What happens is that people read their scripture, come up with new ways to interpret it and then fight amongst themselves over context and proper translation, they don't use it to invent things that help us.

Religion is just not very useful or beneficial, unless that its claims of an afterlife are supportable and reliable. They cannot be proven, so we might as well use faith to believe that walking backwards all day makes Neptune happy which will eventually lead to humans having the ability to breath underwater. Its a nice belief, but without any supportable evidense, isn't worth walking backwards for......

Answer 4

If God doesn't live by the laws of this universe then He cannot be a part of objective (physical) reality and cannot be said to actually exist. If God doesn't obey the physical laws humanity has already proved apply to the entire known universe, what laws does He obey? I suggest He obeys no physical laws, because He doesn't actually exist -- except in the conscious awareness of those who believe in Him. Like it or not, that means God is the ficticious creation of a human mind that imagines its own subjective mental experiences are the basis of reality. This ancient unsubstantiated philosophy was invented by Aristotle and is called Solipsism. This worldview dominated human thinking for two thousand years and it caused all of Western Civilization -- including the Abrahamic religions -- to be based on a false premise.

The factual truth of the matter, discovered by Galileo and systematized by Isaac Newton, is that only the physical realm is objectively real and can be said to actually exist. The subjective mental experiences created by our minds are entirely the product of the neurological structures of our own living brains.

What's the harm in admitting that our superstitious ancestors got it wrong and that humanity has discovered a much better explanation of the workings of reality? Oh yeah, the utterly false and superstitious belief that our mental processes can magically continue without a living brain to create them. Believe your unsubstantiated superstitions if you must, but this atheist takes great comfort in knowing that I'm not going to have to spend eternity either roasting in Hell or groveling before an imaginary Tyrant.

Answer 5

How do you know a god does not live by the same laws of the universe? You have never seen a god or even have any evidence a god exists. Therefore, it is impossible for you to know that a god operates under a different set of laws. You are just making that stuff up.

Answer 6

The world once said God could not exist because the Universe had no beginning..Then science discovered the Big Bang. Now science is finding that our universe is much more complex than we could imagine. We have found more dimensions and perhaps more universes...perhaps an infinite number of universes. I do not find God obsolete, I find Him AWESOME!

Answer 7

The key point is that we have adequate evidence that we exist, and so does the universe; there is no evidence whatever that any sort of god exists, and it is provably useless to believe in such a thing. And the notion that a superior being (or the existence thereof) has something to do with the meaning of life is simply a non sequitur.

Answer 8

I keep telling you that the 1st law of thermodynamics prevents matter or energy miraculously being created. It was always there.

I find it very arrogant that you claim to know the mind of God, informing us in complete knowledge that he exists outside the rules of our universe. If you know this then this God bloke can't be that special.

So once again in big letter. UNIVERSE = NO BEGINNING AND NO END. NO NEED FOR A GOD. IF THERE IS NO INFINITY THEN GID CANNOT BE INFINITE.

Answer 9

"Just because this universe cant be infinitedoesntmeanGod cant."

Legendary. "You know, I really can't explain anything at all about how the universe has come into existence, so let's just say that there's this all-powerful god thing, see, and it transcends all our laws and has the ability to give us eternal life. And again, you can't contradict him, because you're not smart enough to understand it, period. So don't even try".

You Christians make me laugh. No, I do not agree and would suggest you see a therapist if you believe that to be the case.

Answer 10

Your argument basically runs like this: We don't know what happened before the big bang, so lets just assume there's this big huge person who's pulling the strings. He doesn't have to give proof because the lack of that would really be too hard for me to explain, but I'm sure he's there and so should you...