Mountian bikes : Are Hard-tails really lighter that full sus..?

Question

I have been reading various answers to a question about the two types. So 'M R' is saying that there really is a difference in weight then ? Can anyone specifiy ? I bought a double this summer ( stumpjumper fsr expert and it moves well as I was a sprinter before and wanted to continue to punish & push my legs so to speak. Did I choose the right type then ? i actually was thinking of a Ibis Mojo SX : Ideal for speed , or just posing on the trail ??? And finally, I did not see any mention of '' ENDURO '' bikes What exactly is this type of bike ?
Many regards

Answer 1

Comparing similar quality bikes, a hardtail will be lighter, since it has less components than a full suspension bike.

Bike weight is not the most important consideration on a bike, within reason. A full suspension will be more versatile than a hardtail since it can take more variety of terrain. Probably where a HT will do better than a FS is on paved roads or for dirt jumps where the rams and landings are smooth. For other type of terrain, a well designed FS bike will provide better traction and that stuff about pedal efficiency it's not that on spot now with better designs and better shocks. More and more FS are used at world cup races for XC, which is the 'easiest' courses in the difficulty of terrain (but not for the lungs and legs, because they're usually long and fast).

I don't think that the Mojo is a special bike for speed (not that it's slow), but the review's Ive seen are pretty good. But also the Stumpjumper is a very good bike, congratulations.

About type of bicycles, there are several categories:

XC or cross-country, which is like the marathon type in the cycling world. It's long distances, going fast, not so technical terrain, no jumps or drops. Bikes are pretty light and designed to go fast, on suspension, they usually have like 3" or 4" of front and rear travel.

Freeride, which is sort of the stunt-stuff, which involves jumps, drops, ladders, etc.. Bikes are a lot tougher than XC, designed to take more abuse than XC bikes, weight is not a big deal. Usually the bikes have around 6" to 8" of suspension travel. Other than dirt jumps, most of the FR bikes are full suspension.

Between XC and FR there is another category wich some manufacturers refers as "all mountain", trail bikes, enduro. These are bikes that are designed to go both up and down the mountain, take a certain amount of stress, not as much as a FR bike, but considerable more than XC bikes.

The lines on this ridings are not black and white.

Answer 2

You don't have to second guess your purchase. Your FS Expert is a nice bike for sure. But, of course, a hard-tail will be lighter for any given setup; no rear shock, all the bearing and links are replaced by simple welds. Duals are usually made to take a lot of punishment so the frame and fork are usually heavier too. For any riding, it's best to buy what you need. I ride and raced XC on moderately difficult (aren't most?) trails, they don't have any drops of note or are so rough a surface as to make dual needed. Lots of riders buy dual for bling instead of optimal use. While you can use dual anywhere, even street, I don't like 'em personally because they feel mushy and slow in comparison. Rear suspension does reduce pedaling efficiency too.

That being said, there are reasons to use a dual. Any larger drops, jumping, DH etc. it's needed. Some riders simply like a more comfortable ride. Some just think they are cool. You can witness the cool factor by all the kids that ride Wal Mart duals around your neighborhood. Many think the bike is what makes the rider when, if fact, the bike is a tool to optimize the rider's ability.

When it comes down to what bike to get - the answer is get what you want. I can only say what I would do, thinking of best tool for the job. But really, it's all about riding what YOU want. Our lives are full of non-optimal purchases.

One cool site to check is weight weenies. Look at the listing of lightest bikes. While these are mostly over-the-top, it does exemplify the weight differential between the two...
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/articles.php?category=htbikes

One final thing, I tend to answer questions from my perspective, which is speed and efficiency. If this isn't what your priorities are my answer won't be best for you. The important thing is to ride...

Answer 3

respectable finished suspension motorcycles fee so lots extra funds than an equivalent high quality hardtail. It expenditures funds to make and deploy each and all the areas in contact in rear suspension, so no remember if it fairly is bought on an identical value as a motorbike without rear suspension, each thing else on the motorbike is inferior in high quality. each moving area on a motorbike is concern to positioned on, so rear suspension motorcycles require extra maintenance. whilst issues positioned on out, substitute areas could have become not uncomplicated to discover, so which you would be able to desire to finally finally end up with a motorbike that isn't be able to be fixed after some years. A hardtail physique has none of those drawbacks considering there are not any moving areas on the rear of the physique. That stated, rear suspension motorcycles are fairly good on fairly tough terrain, so in case you experience confusing trails each and all the time, rear suspension could properly be an benefit. in simple terms observe that respectable high quality twin suspension motorcycles will fee in a tactics extra advantageous than $one thousand

Answer 4

not necessarily. the overall weight of a mtb really depends on the components comprising it. high-end parts are generally lighter than low-end ones but of course are a lot more expensive as well.

Answer 5

yep hardtails are much lighter

they have less compolents and less complicated frames

Answer 6

yes hard tails are lighter

Answer 7

i have no idea what u are talking about, nor do i no anything about bikes...sorry