Should spaying and neutering be a law?

Question

Do you think breeders should be regulated - not like USDA regulating - but think 'Puppy Mill' Laws like one proposed in Oklahoma? Think they need to prove they are offering quality products with high quality care? Think their should be spaying/neutering laws for all people that are not reputable/registered breeders or use their dogs for something that requires them to remain unaltered (i.e. show dogs)?

Think spaying and neutering is an owner's decision or right? Still think you are justified in buying a dog from a backyard breeder or puppy mill? Still think your dog wasn't a puppy mill dog?

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I'm just getting sick of everyone on Yahoo Answers being so ignorant as to not have their dog's spayed/neutered, not know that "a dog bleeding from its vagina" means it's in heat. I'm sick of people getting mad when they ask about breeding their two dogs and receive responsible answers. I am just sick of it.

You know in the U.S. we require licenses to drive, licenses to get married, and licenses certifying that we are CPAs or exterminators or whatever.

But anyone can have kids and anyone can breed their dogs.

A right is only a freedom that does not impose on another person's rights. But your right to not spay or neuter (or keeping your unaltered animal inside), you are infringing on my rights.

My tax dollars go to fund animal control where the majority of animals are put to sleep - after being cared for, updated on vaccines, given bordatella and rabies vaccines, etc.

The government already essentially controls everything you do already and again a right is something that doesn't infringe on other's rights - so smoke if you want, but not in a public place and don't spay or neuter, but if your dog gets out and pregnant, we put them all down.

It's just that pet overpopulation is getting really ridiculous. To the poin that PETA (not that they aren't a bunch of disguised terrorists anyways and there's no way in hell I'd ever support them and frankly can't believe I am using them as a source) supports euthanizing and rounding up feral cats and dogs!

I want to clarify that I'm absolutely fine with those champion show and field lines being bred. And I have no issue with show dogs or field trial dogs being unaltered. And I'm glad you know your dogs aren't puppy mill dogs, but you are probably 1 in 100 or more that actually knows where their purebred dog comes from. Even most people that have dogs with papers just come from backyard breeders and don't understand that it's the bloodline that is important and not the paper it is written on.

I am a rescue volunteer for labs and the number one question we get is, do they have papers. Why, because they are already spayed and neutered meaning you will never breed them and you are never going to show them or run them in trials. Last weekend, I had someone tell me they'd never buy an unpapered dog but she couldn't tell me why, just that they are better - this is a person that supports that puppy mill or that backyard breeder, just so they can have papers whether they be AKC or APR or what.

Answer 1

"I'm just getting sick of everyone on Yahoo Answers being so ignorant as to not have their dog's spayed/neutered, not know that "a dog bleeding from its vagina" means it's in heat. I'm sick of people getting mad when they ask about breeding their two dogs and receive responsible answers. I am just sick of it."

Join the club.

I am just happy knowing that I am a responsible pet owner whose friends are responsible pet owners, and when we meet people who aren't it is SO FRUSTRATING! I had a woman in my building with two GSD males that she got at 6 weeks. They weren't socialized, not neutered, not trained and she illegally kept them off leash-- because, and I quote "it's inhumane to treat a dog like that. They are pack animals and we shouldn't enforce those rules on them."

Talk about idiots.

I think that spaying and neutering isn't a right, but a responsibility. I got my dog from a woman who had her ***** impregnated literally days before her spay by a GSD they had visiting (see 2 year old opening the bedroom door while she was locked up) and the owners didn't want to abort the puppies. At the same time, I didn't pay a cent for her, and the owner has the spay surgery tomorrow. As for supporting BYB and puppymills-- I am STRONGLY against it! You are not only asking for poorly bred dogs (you can get mutts or shelter dogs that have better genes), but you are paying a premium for them! Not worth it in my mind.

I would love the gov't to regulate these things, but I doubt they will simply because of the time and cost required.

Answer 2

I am strongly in favor of people speutering their animals, and wish there was some effective way to regulate puppymillers. However, I have to say that I can't support mandatory laws requiring involuntary sterilization. First, only responsible owners would be likely to obey the law. The others would simply ignore it, and you would have an enormous enforcement problem. It would also put unreasonable burdens on those who are trying to be responsible about their animals' reproduction.

Also, pushing for mandatory spay/neuter laws is one way to work toward getting rid of all dogs, period. Some of the biggest supporters of these kinds of regulations, along with all the BSL that's popping up everywhere, are those groups whose aim is precisely that - to make it impossible for anyone to own any kind of animal. And they are out there -"animals - don't eat them, don't own them, don't use them" you may have heard that one.

Am I in favor of sterilizing pet animals? Absolutely. All my pet dogs and cat are, my show dogs aren't. But the thought of it being mandatory is scary, because I don't who is going to wield that power, and how.

Some sort of licensing for breeders could be a good thing, but the down side to that is that the provisions could be made so restrictive that nobody could meet them, except those that wouldn't bother in the first place. Again, who has the power, how is it used?

And yes, the general level of ignorance about so many very basic things is disheartening. But hopefully they can learn. More distressing are those who simply are looking for confirmation, and get really bent out of shape when someone dares contradict them with an answer that's not what they want to hear.

Answer 3

I believe that an owner has the right Not to spay or nuture their dog. That is their right. However, I do work in a veterinary clinic, and I believe that it should be against the law for a person to breed their dog and sell the pups, when they are not a proffesional breeder. I've seen so many pups come in from unregistered breeders that have to be put to sleep because of a disease that they contracted from the breeders residence. I believe that if an owner has two dogs, male and female, one or the other should be altered, because it is becoming increasingly more dangerous for pups in the world outside of a regulated breeding location. Pups are lost, new owners are destraught, and lawsuits are filed, all because someone didn't know what they were doing when they bred their dog.

Answer 4

The problem is that like ponography which is hard to define "but I know it when I see it" it's hard to leagally define a puppy mill, backyard breeder, or responsible breeder. sohow do you legislate who shold be able to breed and how much?

Then the individul cases, many times a show dog needs to mature (and in some breeds that can be age 3!) before having a chance in the show ring, some sports the training period can measure years before the dog can compeate, then there are the "working" herders, hunters, service dogs some of which never compeate but to be honest if I had to chose one line of dog to KEEP breeding the ones that probuce dogs that save lives, or help people daily at their work would be it over any number of Best in shows!


PS Honey I have two DUAL champian sired dogs on my sofa and the thirds sire is the 1# lifetime winner in history in his sport. The dog I lost to age last month was outta the AKC centinenial show BOB! I dang well KNOW they aint puppy mill progeny

Answer 5

Very good-phrased. : ) In my ideal global, all people who owns a puppy or cat might have a 'shock' seek advice from from Responsible Pet company, who might withdraw a few blood and decode the DNA from that animal. Then DNA assessments might be administered to all different puppies and cats filling the shelters, picked up by way of the pound, or else determined wandering, and spot if those animals might be traced again to these persons. If the individual who at first held the founding animal is a liable individual and will turn out that they well being experiment and paintings and/or exhibit their puppies (no less than exhibit the cats, what paintings does a cat do? : ) ) and are liable for the animals in THEIR care, then the traditional approaches of monitoring - AKC registration, different forms, microchips and tattoos - might be administered and the brand new proprietor might be tracked down and fined (until, of path, it might be verified that they have been actively watching for his or her misplaced puppy). For the BYBs and dog generators, this might imply that each one in their deficient, genetically in poor health animals might be traced again to them they usually might be slapped with a heavy excellent and investigated and with a bit of luck close down, as soon as it's noticeable that just about ALL animals in shelters and rescues are THEIR fault. How can it no longer be, whilst well breeders maintain in contact with their dog/kitten homeowners for the life of that animal? Perhaps there can also be amendments for well breeders - akin to, you probably have evidence of CERT and OFA/PennHip and exhibit and/or paintings your puppies, then of path you're a smart individual and do not require tracking or bills. Everyone else must be, nevertheless, and must be punished for doing it irresponsibly, without a regard to the lives they're growing. I'm beautiful worn out proper now - up too early this morning - so I do not suppose my argument makes so much experience, and I have not but touched on what it might do to well breeders, however I suppose it might be exceptional to have such an institution. Sign me up! EDIT: And that is why I'm no longer a legal professional - I do not make a cohesive argument! lol At the equal time, I are not able to stand executive have an impact on, so possibly it might be a personal institution who oversaw anything of this significance.

Answer 6

Dogs and cats should be sprayed and nutered as a law. It should be because of over population. All animals should have the same sort of rights. Why is it fair that deer are shot when dogs have some sort of devine rights? Nope, enfore a law if there is a population problem (which there is will all the dogs in shelters). Therefore, there should be some sort of certifaction. Although, it will make the price of a puppy go up there will be less problems in the long run. (not that I like the idea of lack of competion either though but, it's better).

Answer 7

Abbyful, Ragapple, and drb have summed it up very well...

I will fight AGAINST such laws as long as I live.

The Hsus and peta are very successful at pulling at the country's heartstrings when it comes to this issue. And they should be: they have millions of dollars to invest in lobbying. But NOT for the reasons they spew.

Do some research on the animal rights movement in America......learn what their primary objective is: TO ELIMINATE PET OWNERSHIP AND BREEDING. Then examine the draconian laws that have been passed around this country ***pertaining to mandatory s/n and BSL*** and ask yourself have the laws succeeded in doing what they were *apparently* supposed to do?? No, they haven't.

Mandatory speuter laws are a step in THAT direction....they theorize that if enough restrictions are placed on pet owners and breeders that we will somehow give up our pets or our pursuits of breeding and/or showing. They WANT to make it more expensive and restrictive....it's all part of obtaining their ultimate goal.((****important note: THEY MAKE NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN ETHICAL AND UNETHICAL BREEDERS**** They believe ALL breeders are the devil incarnate.))

What do you think BSL is really about? It's another way of deliberately exterminating dogs breed by breed. When the powers that be of a certain city succumb to public outcry of a perceived vicious breed, they are left wringing their hands, and in steps the calvary! Peta or Hsus! And another piece of BSL is adopted. (If anyone would like proof of hsus involvement in bsl, email me privately)

As far as statistics go, what "they" fail to mention in their figures is that NOT all dogs that are pts in this country were ever adoptable in the first place.
1.Those numbers DO NOT take into account dogs that were brought to a shelter/humane society to be pts rather than going to a vet. (usually it's cheaper or free)
2. Those numbers DO NOT take into account the number of SICK dogs that had to be pts, therefore unadoptable.
3. Those numbers DO NOT take into account the number of temperamentally unstable dogs ...
When you take those things into account, it drastically reduces their statistics....but they don't want that...it's not as effective....

Wake up!!!! Responsible breeders ARE NOT the cause of the perceived "overpopulation" problem.....but gov't imposed sanctions cooked up by the ARs isn't the solution ....

Continued EDUCATION, low cost spay/neuter clinics, ARE working.

Answer 8

I think each pet owner should care enough about there pet to get it fixed if it is not going to be used to try and better the breed or a show dog and if it is a mixed breed they should get them fixed by 4 months and care enough about all the dogs being put to sleep every day to do it own there own

Answer 9

I understand where you are coming from, but I do not believe in spaying my female dogs. I have had my males neutered, but I will never spay a female unless it was a cure for something. None of my females have had illnesses from not being spayed, and none have ever gotten preg. There is a lot of reasons why I won't spay a female, but I'm not going to go into it. In the case of shelter dogs I understand the need. Also, I have signed a contract with the breeder to never spay one of my girls. Also, we should be more worried about what we feed our dogs, and what the gov. can do about that. More so, then worring about what nature gave them, and we should be worried about whose buying dogs.

Answer 10

Yes, i know in a county (i think) in california it is a law to spay and neuter pit bulls. But the real problem are puppymills and just regular people letting their dogs mate and have litters. they need to put up TV commercials about the importance of fixing the pet, and show the actual healthy puppies and dogs that are about to be euthanized in shelters because of overpopulation