A Question for Catholics?

Question

I am curious how familiar Catholics are with Queen Semiramis, wife of Nimrod (who attempted to build the Tower of Babel).

"Now, we have a woman in history who's forming a religion that is the opposite, the counterpart, the shadow of the true religion of God.

Now, what do we know about Nimrod's wife's religion? Well, she shrewdly conceived this religion based on the promises of Genesis 3:15. And here's what she did. She claimed that she gave birth to a son whom she said was miraculously conceived. In other words he was not the son of Nimrod. She had an "immaculate" conception. She had a virgin birth.

She also claimed that she was a part of the religious system; and so all the symbols of her religion, all the icons of her religion showed a mother and a child, the Madonna and child.

So, there was a woman--her--who was the center of her religion and the child she gives birth to (she claims) as a virgin.

She also claimed that her son was indeed the savior and redeemer of the world.

Now, you're seeing some parallels here already, aren't you? Here's the real thing though. Semiramis wanted worship from people around her so she called herself the Queen of Heaven. And as the Queen of Heaven, she proposed that certain things could happen that related to her that could not happen if you didn't relate to her.

So, for example, she believed that there was to be a purging period after death in which you could purge your sin and still be saved even if you died in your sin. A purging process!

She believed that if you followed the sacraments of her religion, you did all the things her religion told you to do, you did the stuff of her religion, following the sacraments would bring you salvation. Do the sacraments, you get salvation.

In fact, she had a whole order of priests of her religion who would put water on their people. They called it holy water. And when they would put the holy water on the believers of Semiramis' religion, those people would be cleansed of their sin.

It doesn't stop there. She said, "I need a counterpart to these priests." So, Semiramis (this is all part of history), Semiramis established a whole order of virgins who wore long robes and were dedicated specifically to the work of Semiramis."
http://www.backtothebible.org/index.php/Back-to-the-Bible-Radio-Program/Ecclesiastical-Babylon.html

JUST LOOKING FOR COMMENTARY FROM CATHOLIC BELIEVERS.....THANKS.

For those of you commenting on them, I have NEVER read anything called Chick Tracts or any book by anyone named Hyslop.

TO Cynical....I am a Christian and am NOT attempting to debunk what I believe.

I find it infinitely interesting that not ONE person has responded with what I asked for....commentary from catholic believers about the parallels between this "religion" and their own beliefs.

Answer 1

Aha, been reading Alexander Hislop's book..havent we?
The Two Babylons

Answer 2

This is Old Testament stuff and has nothing to do with the Catholic faith. The Catholics claim to be commissioned by Jesus when he told Peter, the first Pope, "you are the rock upon I build my church". These events happened hundreds if not thousands of years apart. When Constantine ordered the council of Nicaes in 325, there was big debate as to keep the Old Testament, or old Jewish part as a canonized portion of the new Christian Bible. This council also invented the Trinity in order to get around the 1st Commandment. So I would say that most Catholics look at this story like they do for most of the Old Testament as a history of the generations leading to Jesus. The meat of their faith is based on the New Testament from Jesus' birth on.

Answer 3

Do yourself and us a favor and don't believe everything you read, especially if it's the Chick tracks and Hyslop's book. None of what you're relatimg has any historical, factual, or Biblical basis. Nimrod is only mentioned a couple of times in Genesis, and there is no Scripture that says he was involved in the building of what was later called the Tower of Babel. And while Semiramis may be a historical figure, she is not even mentioned in the Bible -- much less as Nimrod's wife.

Alexander Hyslop hated Catholicism and concocted a batch of lies and blended them the occasional historical name to give his fiction verisimilitude. The people who crank out the Chick tracks are no better: they lie, exaggerate, and twist the truth to serve their Catholic-bashing agenda.

Next time, you might want to talk to Catholics and find out the real facts about what we believe versus the fables and out-and-out lies that are told about us.

Answer 4

You can also find similiarities between Osirius and Dyosenius in Egyptian mythology with the story of Jesus. A virgin birth, child conceived with the power of God with future to be savior. Sound familiar? But it doesn't debunk Christianity. Your trying to make Christianity seem false, I don't know what your religion is but that is the premise of your question. A virgin birth is the central part of Christianity, if you are saying Catholics are wrong to believe that since is part of mythology then you are insulting the whole Christian community. You're saying this belief system was based on lies of a woman, you're calling the mother of Jesus a liar. I don't think you want to do that.

Answer 5

In contempt for God and all decency Nimrod married his own mother, Semiramis. After his untimely death, his mother-wife, Semiramis, taught the lie that her husband-son was a spirit god. She claimed a full-grown evergreen tree sprang overnight from a dead tree stump, which symbolized the springing forth to new life of the dead Nimrod. She taught that on the anniversary of his birth, which was December 25, Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts upon it. The historian, Professor Hislop, says: “Now the Yule Log is the dead stock of Nimrod, deified as the sun-god, but cut down by his enemies; the Christmas-tree is Nimrod redivivus—the slain god come to life again.”—The Two Babylons, pages 97, 98.

Genesis 3:15 parts:

I - God
you -serpent - Satan
serpent's seed - Satan's followers
woman - Jerusalem above, God's wifelike organization of spirit creatures
he - Jesus
her seed - faithful followers of God and Jesus including the annointed and great crowd

bruise him (Jesus) in the heel - temporary (Satan is temporary, his damage is limited, his time is short)
bruise you (Satan) in the head - permanent (Jesus will destroy Satan and all the wicked)

Answer 6

Sounds like someone's been reading Chick tracts. I'm sorry, but that stuff is rubbish, and is obviously narrow-minded and biased.

How would you like it if people kept trying to undermine you and your beliefs while simultaneously ridiculing you for them--while at the same time showing that they had absolutely no clue what you believed and didn't care to learn?

Answer 7

I follow a personal rule never to worship anyone named "Nimrod."

Also against the 10 commandments.

A Catholic

Answer 8

Where did you get this from? I never heard of her. It sounds fictional to me. If you truly want to know what Catholics believe, read the Catholic catechism.

Answer 9

i would like the three minutes of my life back that I wasted reading this question

Answer 10

But the Christian faith did the same thing. I don't understand your hypocrisy.