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2007-12-12 09:11:49 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Dan M, you are incorrectly using the term Apocrypha, but i agree with your post

2007-12-12 09:19:14 · update #1

Cheerful Charles, did you find any more or less books in a Catholic NT?

2007-12-12 09:20:20 · update #2

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I am sure that all properly educated Protestants know that Catholics use the same New Testament canon of 27 books.

The difference in the Old Testaments actually goes back to the time before and during Christ’s life. At this time, there was no official Jewish canon of scripture.

The Jews in Egypt translated their choices of the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek in the second century before Christ. This translation of 46 books, called the Septuagint, had wide use in the Roman world because most Jews lived far from Palestine in Greek cities. Many of these Jews spoke only Greek.

The early Christian Church was born into this world. The Church, with its bilingual Jews and more and more Greek-speaking Gentiles, used the books of the Septuagint as its Bible. Remember the early Christians were just writing the documents what would become the New Testament.

After the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, with increasing persecution from the Romans and competition from the fledgling Christian Church, the Jewish leaders came together and declared its official canon of Scripture, eliminating seven books from the Septuagint.

The books removed were Tobit, Judith, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees, Wisdom (of Solomon), Sirach, and Baruch. Parts of existing books were also removed including Psalm 151 (from Psalms), parts of the Book of Esther, Susanna (from Daniel as chapter 13), and Bel and the Dragon (from Daniel as chapter 14).

The Christian Church did not follow suit but kept all the books in the Septuagint. 46 + 27 = 73 Books total.

1500 years later, Protestants decided to keep the Catholic New Testament but change its Old Testament from the Catholic canon to the Jewish canon.

The books that were removed supported such things as
+ Prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45)
+ Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7)
+ Intercession of saints in heaven (2 Maccabees 15:14)
+ Intercession of angels (Tobit 12:12-15)

The books they dropped are sometimes called the Apocrypha.

Here is a Catholic Bible website: http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/

With love in Christ.

2007-12-12 17:21:18 · answer #1 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 3 0

LOL..I think it is very "easy" for anyone who criticizes others regarding their religious beliefs to go on what they have been taught, regardless of whether they really looked into it themselves.

The Catholics do use the same New Testament as everyone else. I would say it is more of a language interpretation thing, over a wholy different NT.
Some Bible versions have more texts that are considered apocrypha - not accepted as Inspired, but accepted by the fact that they are historically correct and were used in the past by the church (in the past I mean like 1500 years ago or more).
Each Bible version is a translation from something else. Some translations are clearly very biased translations based upon that times interpretations of sexuality, government, etc. Some translations are scholarly and work only to give the reader the most current and accurate wording based on what they uncovered regarding language, etc.

2007-12-12 09:35:39 · answer #2 · answered by SisterSue 6 · 3 0

Here is Chris's passage from which he deduces that the teachings of Christ's only Church is "a false gospel of works that leads to eternal hell":

Catholic St Paul writes in Galatians 1: "I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!"

Now this "different gospel" cannot be the gospel that Jesus preached and entrusted to the safekeeping of Peter and the 12 Apostles.

Martin Luther, the founder of Chris's protestant heresy, refutes Chris's interpretation: "St. Paul wrote this epistle because, after his departure from the Galatian churches, Jewish-Christian fanatics moved in, who perverted Paul's Gospel of man's free justification by faith in Christ Jesus."

Truth: Paul is writing about Judaizers who would require new Christians to give up pork, observe fastidious Sabbath restrictions, and get circumcized (ouch). He was NOT writing about Peter, James, John, and other Catholic Christians who rejected the Judaizers at the Jerusalem Council (see Acts 15 for details).

How do we know all this? From the Catholic Bible, which Protestants have adopted, but some don't read, preferring their Chick comics.

Cheers,
Bruce

2007-12-12 16:05:26 · answer #3 · answered by Bruce 7 · 2 0

no longer fullyyt authentic. they at the instant are not heretics in the technical experience because of the fact they do no longer disavow their non secular dogma nor their revealed certainty. they are able to basically be heretics in the event that they have been baptized Catholic and left the Catholic Church for a Protestant denomination, or no denomination, or atheism (because of the fact the Roman Catholic Church recognizes the validity of the sacraments in the Orthodox Church, individual who leaves the Roman Catholic Church for the Orthodox church isn't a heretic yet extremely a schismatic). Luther certainly replaced right into a heretic, yet Lutherans at the instant are not heretics. they are Protestants.

2016-10-11 03:55:42 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I don't understand because there are differences between the Jerusalem Bible and (say) KJV
I found recently second hand a copy of the Douay Bible which I beleive was teh accepted Roman Catholic version before th Jerusalem Bible

2007-12-12 09:18:52 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

They often don't. They also don't realize that there are more quotes from "those extra Catholic books" in the New Testament than from any other area of the Old Testament.

Hmmmm, if they were good enough for Jesus and the apostles to quote I think they are good enough for me.

2007-12-13 12:53:36 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

You think they can read ? I sincerely believe that you must be either joking " mistaken " or simply as high as a kite !

The real question you should have asked is " Do they realize that the new testament they use was originally written by the Roman Catholic Church " ? It doesn't look like it at all does it ?

2007-12-12 09:19:18 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4 2

Catholics use a Bible that is translated from the Minority Text, which is riddled with errors and contradictions. Modern Bible versions almost all come from that same corrupt text. I use the King James Bible, which comes from the Majority Text. That text is error-free (other than the odd typo - the errors in the Minority Text are doctrinal errors and outright blasphemy), so I can be assured that my Bible and the Catholic Bible are vastly different. Study it out, friend.

2007-12-12 09:23:24 · answer #8 · answered by Blue Eyed Christian 7 · 0 4

i assume they are targeting the use of the apocrypha in catholicism. even if a person doesn't believe the apocrypha is "holy", what's the harm in reading more texts that support the Bibilical way of life? still full of good teachings.

2007-12-12 09:16:36 · answer #9 · answered by Dan M 4 · 4 1

The difference is that Protestants believe that the Glory Of Christ is that He arose from the dead (the empty cross) He took our sin and overcame death and the grave. Catholics portray a helpless child dependent on its mother Whom they worship (idolatry, a sin) ,or a Dead Jesus on the cross. that needs us to finish this act of salvation for Him ,as His work was incomplete.
They do not accept His suffering as a complete work ,somehow they have to suffer also to complete it.
Basically ,they undermine the Divine Nature of his Deity and completeness of His work. Making a mockery of His sacrifice. Making themselves to be God ,to think they could perform these works.
Purgatory is also a lie ,and many "catholics" act like the devil believing this lie that they can be prayed out of their judgment.
The spanish inquisition and murdering of native americans can be traced to these false doctrines.

2007-12-12 09:26:55 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

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