I would really like to know. How did God create himself before he created time, and matter, and the spirit, and even the concept of nothingness itself? Anyone have any quotes, or even better, an explanation?
2007-12-12 09:07:14 · 24 answers · asked by Jasumi 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Here is that famous answer again. You just have to have faith. They can not explain it so it is easier to just say, God was always here. Funny how that explanation works for their creator but can not work for the universe itself. They say things like we humans can't understand infinite since we are finite. I don't know about you but I understand perfectly what infinite means.
2007-12-12 09:18:16 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
If you ask how God came into existence, then that isn't God. By definition, God must transcend both space and time and thus be eternal.
If God is part of either space OR time, He couldn't have created it. If God were part and parcel of this MEST universe (MEST = Matter, Energy, Space, Time), then He couldn't have created it.
If you ask WHO created God, then you must ask who created God's creator, and who created THAT one, ad infinitum, ad nauseum, and is just begging the point.
To be God, He must have sufficient cause for His own existence without any prior cause. In fact one of His names means exactly that.
God told Moses "My name is 'I AM THAT I AM' " God is "I AM", or the self-existent one.
The problem here is that you're approaching God's existence the same as you would the existence of ANY thing within this universe, because we understand that every thing that exists must have had a beginning, and our finite minds can not comprehend an infinite Being.
The Bible never talks about God's origins, it simply assumes He IS: "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth", no prelude, no explanation.
I'm sorry if my answer disappoints you, and you may not even LIKE my answer, but like it or not, it IS the answer.
2007-12-12 09:18:14 · answer #2 · answered by no1home2day 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
God is the beginning. Logically, if everything has a beginning, then something or someone (the first cause) must have always existed. Here are the Biblical quotes you were looking for.
(Isaiah 48:12) “Listen to me, O Jacob, and you Israel my called one. I am the same One. I am the first. Moreover, I am the last.
(Revelation 21:6) And he said to me: “They have come to pass! I am the Al′pha and the O·me′ga, the beginning and the end. To anyone thirsting I will give from the fountain of the water of life free.
(Revelation 22:13) I am the Al′pha and the O·me′ga, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.
2007-12-12 09:13:05 · answer #3 · answered by Questions_I_ask 2 · 4⤊ 2⤋
Goethe rightly pointed out that in the beginning was the WORD.
So, there you have!
Bill Gates created Micro soft,
MS created WORD
and Word created GOD and everything that followed.
There you are the true story!
It's all about Computers, Apple, the Sun.
It's all there.
Bow Down to the Great Bill Gates creator of all.
Gates = ways
The way we must follow.
2007-12-12 12:21:05 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋
Thats Just it, God had no Beginning, He exist beyond Human Understanding at least while we are in this form, Even if you mental faculties were increased by One trillion % Your mind would not even be One Trillion of one percent that of God's accept it.
God has existed Eternity past, Eternity Present, Eternity Future,He had no creation, He has always been and always will be, accept it.
And no..I did not cut-n-paste this answer from CARM, this is my own words, But CARM does have an answer to that very Question, here is the link.
http://www.carm.org/questions/God_created.htm
They state in Conclusion that he answer is that by definition He is not created; He is eternal. He is the One who brought time, space, and matter into existence. Since the concept of causality deals with space, time, and matter, and since God is one who brought space, time, and matter into existence, the concept of causality does not apply to God since it is something related to the reality of space, time, and matter. Since God is before space, time, and matter, the issue of causality does not apply to Him.
2007-12-12 09:18:12 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
Thats a pointless question.
Heres what you are going to get:
Christians/other crazy religious folk : "God has always been around.
Atheists: God doesn't exsist.
And other than that most of people answers will follow those guidelines.
2007-12-12 09:19:05 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
If God created Himself, wouldn't there then be 2 Gods?
2007-12-12 09:11:25 · answer #7 · answered by Tommy 5 · 4⤊ 3⤋
God is self-existent. Remember we are speaking in the spiritual realm and not the physical here. God did not have a beginning because He is the same yesterday, today, and forever (Heb. 13:8-9).
2007-12-12 09:11:03 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 3⤋
God always was, He lives in eternity outside of time. Figure that one out.
2007-12-12 09:12:57 · answer #9 · answered by Dave G 3 · 4⤊ 2⤋
Good questions. I find it weird that theists can understand the complexity of a God being created, or always being there, but can barely grasp the definition of a theory.
2007-12-12 09:12:30 · answer #10 · answered by Take it from Toby 7 · 5⤊ 4⤋