The Catholic Church does not encourage followers to disobey the Bible:
The Elders of the Church are Called "Fathers" and the Faithful "Children"
Matt. 23:9 - Jesus says, "call no man father." But Protestants use this verse in an attempt to prove that it is wrong for Catholics to call priests "father." This is an example of "eisegesis" (imposing one's views upon a passage) as opposed to "exegesis" (drawing out the meaning of the passage from its context). In this verse, Jesus was discouraging His followers from elevating the scribes and Pharisees to the titles of “fathers” and “rabbis” because they were hypocrites. Jesus warns us not to elevate anyone to the level of our heavenly Father.
Matt. 23:8 – in this teaching, Jesus also says not to call anyone teacher or rabbi as well. But don’t Protestants call their teachers “teacher?” What about this commandment of Jesus? When Protestants say “call no man father,” they must also argue that we cannot call any man teacher either.
Judges 17:10; 18:19 - priesthood and fatherhood have always been identified together. Fatherhood literally means "communicating one's nature," and just as biological fathers communicate their nature to their children, so do spiritual fathers communicate the nature of God to us, their children, through (hopefully) teaching and example.
Eph. 3:14-15 - every family in heaven and on earth is named from the "Father." We are fathers in the Father.
Acts 7:2; 22:1,1 John 2:13 - elders of the Church are called "fathers." Therefore, we should ask the question, "Why don't Protestants call their pastors "father?"
1 Cor. 4:15 - Paul writes, "I became your father in Christ Jesus."
1 Cor. 4:17 - Paul calls Bishop Timothy a beloved and faithful "child" in the Lord.
2 Cor. 12:14 - Paul describes his role as parent over his "children" the Corinthians.
Phil. 2:22 - Paul calls Timothy's service to him as a son serves a "father."
1 Thess. 2:11- Paul compares the Church elders' ministry to the people like a father with his children.
1 Tim. 1:2,18; 2 Tim. 1:2-3 - Paul calls Timothy his true "child" in the faith and his son.
Titus 1:4 - Paul calls Titus his true "child" in a common faith. Priests are our spiritual fathers in the family of God.
Philemon 10 - Paul says he has become the "father" of Onesimus.
Heb. 12:7,9 - emphasizes our earthly "fathers." But these are not just biological but also spiritual (the priests of the Church).
1 Peter 5:13 - Peter refers to himself as father by calling Mark his "son."
1 John 2:1,13,14 - John calls the elders of the Church "fathers."
1 John 2:1,18,28; 3:18; 5:21; 3 John 4 - John calls members of the Church "children."
1 Macc. 2:65 - Mattathias the priest tells his sons that Simeon will be their "father."
The Lord, Mary, the Apostles and Others Refer to Spiritual Leaders as "Fathers"
Matt. 3:9; Luke 3:8 - Jesus refers to Abraham as our "father."
Mark 11:10 - the people cried out blessed is the kingdom of our "father" David that is coming!
Luke 1:32 - God's angel says Jesus will be great and be given the throne of his "father" David.
Luke 1:55 - Mary says that He spoke to our "fathers," to Abraham and to his posterity for ever.
Luke 1:73 - Zechariah says the oath which he swore to our "father" Abraham.
Luke 16:24,30 - Jesus, in His parable about the rich man, says our "father" Abraham.
John 4:12 - the Samaritan woman asks Jesus if He is greater than our "father" Jacob.
John 7:22 - Jesus refers to the "fathers" who gave the Jews the practice of circumcision.
John 8:56 - Jesus tells the Jews your "Father" Abraham rejoiced that he was to see my day.
Acts 3:13,25; 5:30 - Peter teaches that the God of our "fathers" glorified His servant Jesus and raised Him to life.
Acts 4:25 - Peter and John pray to God and refer to our "father" David.
Acts 7:11-12, 15,19,38,44-45,51-52 - Stephen refers to our "fathers" in the faith.
Acts 7:32 - Stephen calls God the God of our "fathers."
Acts 13:17,32,36; 24:14; 26:6; 28:17,25 - Paul also refers to the God of our "fathers" in the faith.
Acts 22:3 - Paul says he was educated according to the strict law of our "fathers."
Acts 22:14 - Ananias says the God of our "fathers."
Rom. 4:1 - Paul calls Abraham our "forefather."
Rom. 4:16-17 - Paul says that Abraham is the "father" of us all and the "father" of many nations.
Rom. 9:10 - Paul calls Isaac, a spiritual leader, our "forefather."
1 Cor. 10:1 - Paul says that our "fathers" were all under the cloud, referring to the Old Testament spiritual leaders.
Gal. 1:14 - Paul says that he was zealous for the tradition of his "fathers."
2 Tim. 1:3 - Paul thanks God whom he serves with a clear conscience as did his "fathers" in faith.
Heb. 1:1 - the author says God spoke of old to our "fathers."
Heb. 3:9 - the Holy Spirit says that your "fathers" put me to the test.
Heb. 8:9 - God says not like the covenant that I made with their "fathers."
James 2:21 - James says was not our "father" Abraham justified by works when he offered his son Isaac?
1 Peter 1:18 - Peter says you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your "fathers."
2 Peter 3:4 - Peter says ever since the "fathers" fell asleep, all things have continued as they were from the beginning.
Other Examples Where Jesus Uses the Word "Father" When Teaching
Matt. 15:4-5; 19:19 - Jesus uses "father" when He teaches God's commandment to "Honor your father and your mother."
Mark 7:10-12; Luke 18:20 - these are more examples of Jesus using "father" when teaching about honoring our fathers and mothers.
Eph. 6:2,4 - Paul also teaches to honor your "father" and mother, and says "fathers," do not provoke your children.
Matt. 10:21; 35,37; Mark 13:12 - Jesus says "father" will deliver up his child in the last days.
Matt. 19:5; Mark 10:7,19 - Jesus says a man shall leave his "father" and mother and be joined to his wife. See also Eph. 5:31.
Matt. 19:29; Mark 10:29-30 - Jesus says whoever has left mother or "father" for His sake shall receive a hundredfold.
Matt. 21:31 - Jesus uses "father" when he teaches about the parable of the two sons and asks, "who did the will of his "father?"
Luke 6:23,26 - Jesus speaks about reward and punishment with reference to what their "fathers" did to the prophets.
Luke 11:11 - Jesus says what "father" among you will give his child a serpent when he asks for a fish.
Luke 11:47-48 - Jesus tells the lawyers they are witnesses to the deeds of their "fathers."
Luke 14:26 - Jesus says we must leave our "fathers" and mothers and come to him, or we cannot be His disciple.
Luke 15:12,17-18,20-22,27-29 - Jesus repeatedly uses "father" when teaching about the prodigal son.
Luke 16:27 - Jesus uses "father" when teaching about the rich man in purgatory.
John 6:49,58 - Jesus says your "fathers" ate the manna in the wilderness and died.
2007-12-13 04:14:33
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answered by Daver 7
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<> It does. There is no such thing as a Catholic parish that does not encourage the independent reading and study of the Bible. My parish even holds a weekly evening Bible study. <> Your cousins are wrong. They were indeed encouraged to establish a persona relationship with God AND study Scripture - but they, evidently, chose not to heed this good advice. And look what happened, surprise, surpise - they lost touch with the Church and eventually drummed out. Still, many do undertake independent study of their Church, and you don't see many of them leaving the Church. However, those who become spiritually sloth, as your cousins did, well, it should come as no surprise they left the Church. <> It's possible, however unlikely, that you had the bad luck of some poor teachers. It's more likely that you, like your cousins, simply overlooked or ignored every mention of the idea of independent Bible study. I can still remember when I was in religious instruction classes. Teachers and priests were ALWAYS recommending regular Bible reading. Did any of the students actually do this? No, of course not, and neither did I at the time. For the record, I do now indeed read and study the Bible whenever I get a chance. <<. . .Knowledge is power.>> Not quite. It's possible to educate one's self right into a world of imbicility. Knowledge is a good thing, but it only requires the brain. If it is Salvation you seek, you must open your heart to God in addition to your brain.
2016-05-23 06:44:09
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answered by ? 3
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In Matthew 23:1-12, when Jesus tells us to call no man "father" or "teacher" He is using figurative language to emphasize that all legitimate authority and truth ultimately come from God. We are not to take these passages literally.
Throughout the Bible men are called fathers and teachers. Both Catholics and Protestants call earthly men fathers and teachers. St. Stephen and St. Paul call the Jewish religious leaders "fathers" (Acts 7:2 and 22:1). St. Paul calls the Corinthians "my beloved children...for I became your father in Christ Jesus through the Gospel" (1 Cor 4:14-15; also see 1 Thess 2:11, 1 Tim 1:2, and Tit 1:4). St Paul became their spiritual father because he cooperated with God in giving them spiritual life, just as a biological father cooperates with God in giving physical life. Catholics call their priests "father" because, like St. Paul, priests cooperate with God in giving spiritual life to their flock by preaching the Gospel and administering the sacraments.
God bless,
Stanbo
2007-12-12 09:11:10
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answered by Stanbo 5
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then JEsus Christ Himself was disobeying the words of God when He called Lazarus father and other areas throughout the bible. consider your elders fathers and entreat the younger a brothers..... honour they FATHER and mother. does this mean only God if so then the only Mother would be Mary. if not then we are told scripturally that the biological sperm donor was nothing more then that.l
GROW UP AND REALIZE THERE IS A father AND OUR ETERNAL FATHER. (not shouting just trying to emphasize the difference).
2007-12-12 09:09:54
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answered by Marysia 7
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Biblical questions are very interesting. First, what exactly is the Bible saying? What is your question specifically? It's unclear.
For Biblical references please refer to your closest spiritual adivsor.
When it comes to the "Father" mentioned in Matthew it does not mean your dad! It means God. Do not call anyone, or anything else, your God. This goes hand-in-hand with the Catholic Church's teachings. "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me."
2007-12-12 09:18:14
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answered by Anonymous
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We were talking about that last night. If Jesus says it believe and obey it.
If you want to obey someone and you won’t obey Jesus, and then listen to Mary. In the book of John, she said to do everything Jesus tells you to do.
Listen to Mary as she speaks in the Bible (the only places we really have her recorded words with our Lord)
Read the Book of Acts and do what Mary did (pray to Jesus)
2007-12-12 09:13:08
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answered by Anonymous
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Matthew 23:6-9 reads, "They love places of honor at banquets, seats of honor in synagogues, greetings in marketplaces, and the salutation 'Rabbi.' As for you, do not be called 'Rabbi.' You have but one teacher, and you are all brothers. Call no one on earth your father; you have but one Father in heaven."
Are we also not to call anyone "teacher" or "doctor" which is how "rabbi' would translate? I think not.
This is call for humility for those in leadership roles. Not to be taken literally.
We are not to deny our male parent and cut the Commandment to honor our father and mother in half.
Some leaders in any church may fall into the same folly of a lack of humility as the pharisees of Jesus' day.
The Apostle Paul writes:
I am writing you this not to shame you, but to admonish you as my beloved children. Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet you do not have many fathers, for I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel. (1 Corinthians 4:14-15)
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As you know, we treated each one of you as a father treats his children, exhorting and encouraging you and insisting that you conduct yourselves as worthy of the God who calls you into his kingdom and glory. (1 Thessalonians 2:11-12)
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I urge you on behalf of my child Onesimus, whose father I have become in my imprisonment, who was once useless to you but is now useful to (both) you and me. (Philemon 10-11)
And finally, Peter calls himself the "father" of Mark:
The chosen one at Babylon sends you greeting, as does Mark, my son. (1 Peter 5:13)
With love in Christ.
2007-12-12 17:28:52
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answered by imacatholic2 7
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So...Children of male parents are not to call those parents their father?
Objecting to Catholics' use of the word as a title is just as ridiculous.
2007-12-12 09:05:11
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answered by Chantal G 6
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You better stop calling your father your father its not biblical you know you should believe in imps instead Martin Luther Did
2007-12-12 09:04:58
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answered by King James 33 1/3% 4
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The Gospel of Matthew exists in many denominations.
2007-12-12 09:08:15
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answered by timberline06450 3
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the catholic church does not call for us to disobey, if you but knew the meaning of that phrase, if you were not so damn brainwashed and opened your eyes, you would see.
2007-12-12 09:12:04
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answered by Adam of the wired 7
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