Was Jesus made by God? That's what the bible says...?

Question

Hebrews 1:1-4

God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.


So, why do a lot of people say Jesus *IS* God when this says God made Jesus?

That is the KJV....

Why should I trust a later translation? It's probably done by some fundie Christian who has an agenda...."Hebrews 1:4 says Jesus was made? NO! That can't be!" *change word*

Answer 1

Silly Christians. The trinity is for squares.


According to the trinity there are three equal, eternal beings called "God" Therefore, there is one God.

The logic doesn't follow for me either, but since Jesus is eternal, and God is eternal, then they must be the same God.

Answer 2

Thats a stretch and you know it. I sincerly hope you are not basing your doctrine on a interpretation of a translation of a text that has been pieced together from several differant sources.

I suppose this means nothing to you.

John1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He (The Word just in case your not keeping up) was with God in the beginning. Through him (The Word in case your still not catching it) all things were made; without him (The Word) nothing was made that has been made. In him (The Word) was life, and that life was the light of men. The light (The light is still The Word just in case you got lost, please try and keep up) shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John.(The Baptist I'm assuming you might know that but then again you believe God (The Father) created Yahshua) He came as a witness to testify concerning that light (The Word again), so that through him (The Word) all men might believe. He (John the Baptist) himself was not the light (the Word); he (John the Baptist) came only as a witness to the light (The Word). The true light (the Word) that gives light to every man was coming into the world

He (The Word) was in the world, and though the world was made through him (The Word), the world did not recognize him (The Word). He (The Word) came to that which was his (The Word) own, but his (The Word) own did not receive him(The Word. Yet to all who received him (The Word), to those who believed in his (The Word) name, he (The Word) gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.

The Word became flesh and made his (The Word in the flesh in case you missed it) dwelling among us. We have seen his (The Word) glory, the glory of the One and Only, who (Who refering to The Word) came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

And to sum it up The Word is God and came in the Flesh to live amoung us.

Time and space does not permit all the places that your insane idea is shown to be utter nonsense but its really very simple as opening up your bible and reading it instead of believing what you Minister tells you.

Repent! The Kingdom of God is at hand!

Answer 3

Yes as the first creation of God according to Colossians 1:15-17, Revelation 3:14 and Micah 5:2.

Answer 4

Jack,

We Christians say HE is GOD because if you remember in John 1:1, where it explains that in the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with GOD. Further in the scriptures John1:14 it explains that "The Word became Flesh", and The word was JESUS CHRIST.

The Word Made Flesh

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 ¶ There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. Mt. 3.1 · Mk. 1.4 · Lk. 3.1, 2

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 ¶ That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 ¶ And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Now, JESUS is also GOD The Son in the trinity. GOD The Father, GOD The Son & GOD The Holy Spirit. Basically, Jesus was GOD that became flesh so that you and I along with all mankind could be saved through HIS Resurrection, which was for the remission of sins, and to defeat Sin, Sickness and the secondeath, also known as eternal damnation. Eternal separation from GOD, spent in hell fire.

In Rev. 1:12-18 it explains the Deity of CHRIST.

12 ¶ And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;

13 and in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, Dan. 7.13 clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. Dan. 10.5

14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, Dan. 7.9 as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

15 and his feet like unto fine brass, Dan. 10.6 as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. Ezek. 1.24

16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

17 ¶ And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: Is. 44.6 ; 48.12 · Rev. 2.8 ; 22.13

18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

JESUS is GOD the Son

Answer 5

As a creation of God, Yeshua IS NOT God.

Stop following Catholic fables people. There is ONE GOD. Yeshua is NOT God.

You are worshipping the created thing in place of the Creator. Just like Paul said you would!

Answer 6

The first chapter of John says that in the beginning was the WORD (another name for Christ) and the WORD was with God and the WORD was God. Christ was one-third of the Holy Trininty, all three have always existed.

Answer 7

Arianism
A heresy which arose in the fourth century, and denied the Divinity of Jesus Christ.

DOCTRINE
First among the doctrinal disputes which troubled Christians after Constantine had recognized the Church in A.D. 313, and the parent of many more during some three centuries, Arianism occupies a large place in ecclesiastical history. It is not a modern form of unbelief, and therefore will appear strange in modern eyes. But we shall better grasp its meaning if we term it an Eastern attempt to rationalize the creed by stripping it of mystery so far as the relation of Christ to God was concerned. In the New Testament and in Church teaching Jesus of Nazareth appears as the Son of God. This name He took to Himself (Matthew 11:27; John 10:36), while the Fourth Gospel declares Him to be the Word (Logos), Who in the beginning was with God and was God, by Whom all things were made.

A similar doctrine is laid down by St. Paul, in his undoubtedly genuine Epistles to the Ephesians, Colossians, and Philippians. It is reiterated in the Letters of Ignatius, and accounts for Pliny's observation that Christians in their assemblies chanted a hymn to Christ as God. But the question how the Son was related to the Father (Himself acknowledged on all hands to be the one Supreme Deity), gave rise, between the years A.D. 60 and 200, to a number of Theosophic systems, called generally Gnosticism, and having for their authors Basilides, Valentinus, Tatian, and other Greek speculators. Though all of these visited Rome, they had no following in the West, which remained free from controversies of an abstract nature, and was faithful to the creed of its baptism. Intellectual centres were chiefly Alexandria and Antioch, Egyptian or Syrian, and speculation was carried on in Greek.

The Roman Church held steadfastly by tradition. Under these circumstances, when Gnostic schools had passed away with their "conjugations" of Divine powers, and "emanations" from the Supreme unknowable God (the "Deep" and the "Silence") all speculation was thrown into the form of an inquiry touching the "likeness" of the Son to His Father and "sameness" of His Essence.

Catholics had always maintained that Christ was truly the Son, and truly God. They worshipped Him with divine honours; they would never consent to separate Him, in idea or reality, from the Father, Whose Word, Reason, Mind, He was, and in Whose Heart He abode from eternity. But the technical terms of doctrine were not fully defined; and even in Greek words like essence (ousia), substance (hypostasis), nature (physis), person (hyposopon) bore a variety of meanings drawn from the pre-Christian sects of philosophers, which could not but entail misunderstandings until they were cleared up. The adaptation of a vocabulary employed by Plato and Aristotle to Christian truth was a matter of time; it could not be done in a day; and when accomplished for the Greek it had to be undertaken for the Latin, which did not lend itself readily to necessary yet subtle distinctions

SATAN WILL ALWAYS REVITALIZE OLD HERESIES.

Answer 8

Jesus is and was God in flesh. God came from above to save those below

Answer 9

Jesus is God in the flesh. God being the almighty came upon the earth in human form as Jesus. Remember though that God is omnipresent and can be everywhere, thus he is Jesus.

Are you a Jehovah witness, they are usually the ones who question this.

Answer 10

1Jo 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one.