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God expelled Lucifer from heaven because he wanted to be God and Lucifer became Satan. Does this mean that God forbidded Lucifer to go back?

And when the angels came to see God, Satan went with them. I have a bunch of questions with this chapter:

1. Why does he want to go to heaven in the first place? why does he want to see god? If someone's too proud of themselves they wouldn't go back to the place where they got rejected. So this scene doesn't make sense.
2. Isn't it nonsense that Evil can enter heaven? Satan went with the angels to see god. Isn't heaven the place where only holy angels and holy men can enter?

Now, God asked Satan: "Have u seen John, the most righteous, blameless man on earth? Don't lay a hand on him". This one arises many more questions that i can't get over with:

3. Why did God talk to Satan? He was not supposed to be in heaven, he was expelled, and now he's in heaven talking to God. It doesn't make any sense.

2007-12-12 07:25:17 · 8 answers · asked by sunny 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

4. Why did God mention John in the first place? As Satan might have never even known who John was, and wouldn't harm him. But now, when God mentioned John, it gave Satan the idea. (If u say: God is more powerful than Satan and believes that by warning Satan not to harm John, Satan will be scared of God and not do so. Then read on)
5. God accepts Satan's challenge (to take away John's good things to see if he will still have faith in God). Now, why does God have to prove to Satan that John will? He's powerful enough to not prove to anybody. Plus Satan is evil and not worth proving anything to. So, this chapter makes no sense
6. God creates things, so he knows how to fix things. So he could just say something, like brainwash Lucifer and make him pure again. He could prevent Satan to come bring evil things on earth.

2007-12-12 07:36:34 · update #1

8 answers

I think you got the story wrong. This is how it actually goes:
God created this perfect angel called Micheal. He started talking behind God's back to the other angels, Micheal rebelled against God. Rebellion is sin. So God kicked him out of heaven, with 1/3 of the other angels. Micheal today is known as Satan or the devil. He brought sin into this world.

If your asking why God didn't just destroy Micheal then I have your answer. If he did then the other angels would just follow him because they would be scared, that if they did something wrong, then God would destroy them. But he let us choose. He is loving, He wants people to really, truly believe in Him because of love. Not a threat.

2007-12-12 15:37:04 · answer #1 · answered by Jade 2 · 1 0

Satan became ruler and judge of the earth when Adam sinned.
He had right to cast judgment before God in Heaven, until he crucified Jesus who was innocent. Jesus then became the Righteous judge and ruler. Upon Taking over Jesus postponed all judgments until the end . That is why we live in grace on the earth now. This also closed the door to heaven to the accuser Satan. That is why Satan is trapped on earth now. He has no authority.

2007-12-12 07:36:56 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Satan was expelled from heaven and you can see in Revelation 12:7.

That was written Year 98 C.E and that would happen in the future of the apostle John.

So tha happened after the first century.....

the book of Job was written 1600 years before Revelation, Satan was yet in heaven when both books were written.

2007-12-12 07:30:05 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

some creations are only stupid that way. Why do people speed down the line, weaving out and in of site visitors whilst they understand that at any 2nd they'd cream into yet another automobile or a wall and waste themselves and/or others. it relatively is a possibility they're prepared to take that they are going to win and pa out unscathed. devil needed to be God. he became the main tasty attitude in heaven. His splendor grew to grow to be vane and he became prepared to take a possibility of overpowering God. He gambled and lost.

2016-12-10 21:02:27 · answer #4 · answered by ferranti 4 · 0 0

At one time Satan(Lucifer) was one of GOD's favorite angels until he tried to become god himself, then he and his angels (demons) was cast out of heaven.
Isaiah 14:12-23, Revelation 12:7-9, Ezekiel 28:15

2007-12-12 13:55:55 · answer #5 · answered by Francine M 4 · 1 1

Why did he go? Maybe he just had to talk things over with the old man.

2007-12-12 07:33:57 · answer #6 · answered by magix151 7 · 0 2

It was Job bible thumbper. Please fell free to read it for yourself in Job

2007-12-12 07:31:07 · answer #7 · answered by Old guy 5 · 0 1

it's the bible. nothing is supposed to make any sense.

2007-12-12 07:29:43 · answer #8 · answered by Juan Espera De Dios No Mas 4 · 1 3

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