Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
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Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Does this scripture take away from Matthew 28:19?
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Does this deny the Father and Holy Ghost or does this fulfill what Jesus was saying?
2007-12-12 06:01:00 · 11 answers · asked by Old Hickory 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Chris do you care to explain yourself?
How am I taking these out of context I listed them and asked someone to explain. Anyone who has ever been around church especially penticostals has heard these questions.
Anything other than what the scripture says is out of context. Do you not agree that Mark 16:16 says "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved"?
Do you use whiteout in this part of your Bible?
2007-12-12 06:21:53 · update #1
James 2:20
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
James 2:18
Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
2007-12-12 06:26:55 · update #2
Sister Sandy I have heard many people over the years act as if we are taking away from the Father if we follow Acts 2:38. It does seem over the months that people really do feel we are falling short if we do what Peter said. Yes Peter did have this revelation of who Jesus is.
Satan hates the name of Jesus Christ. Notice when people say Xmas or Xians. They hate anything and everything that has to do with Jesus Christ. The Great Whore has taught "others" not to use the name of Jesus. This was the ony name given whereby we must be saved.
Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.(see Mark 16:16)
2007-12-12 08:43:26 · update #3
No, Acts 2:38 does not deny the Father and Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38 just tells who the Name is in Matthew 28:19 to be baptized in....baptizing them in the NAME of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost... the NAME is Jesus. Do all things in word and deed, do all in the NAME of Jesus Christ? I believe baptism is a necessary part of salvation. Jesus got baptized, if it was good enough for him it is good enough for me.
2007-12-12 06:31:24 · answer #1 · answered by Caleb's Mom 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
So if I follow you correctly brother George... you are asking us if being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and being baptized in the NAME ( not names) of the Father , Son and Holy Spirit is contradicting? Does it carry the same weight?
What of the Father and Spirit?
I believe our brother Peter was very clear, so was brother Matthew and Mark.
There is only ONE Baptism.
Eph 4:5
" One Lord, one faith, one baptism"
Interesting that they use the " Lord " in this verse huh:)
TO be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ is the same as being baptized in the Name of the Father, Son and HOly Spirit. The reason I say this and the reason I believe Peter knew that IN CHRIST dwells all the Fullness of the Godhead Bodily.
This Jesus Christ is called the Eternal Father and Mighty God.
This Lord is the Spirit as we see in Corinthians.
IN Him, not some.. but ALL, the Fulness was pleased to dwell. ( Col 1:19)
" For in Him all the Fullness was pleased to dwell.
Col 2:9
For in Him dwells ALL the Fullness of the Godhead Bodily.
These verses are very powerful brother and they show the Power of the Lord's name.
Philippians 2:10 shows us
That in the Name of Jesus every knee should bow of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth.
This is no light thing. Praise the Lord.. Being baptized into the Name of Jesus is to be placed into God. We are transferred into the Kingdom of the Son of God's love ( Col 1:13)
All that God has done and attained and carried out was done in the Son. People saw a mere man, a carpenter's son... but God saw ALL OF FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD in this man. Even satan saw it. Its no wonder no demon would confess that Jesus is the Son of Man. To admit that a man would defeat them is just too much. If this One man Christ Jesus defeated them.. then it means that All the believers in the One New Man would defeat them too. ha!
So brother as far as the weight of the Lord Jesus' name in baptism and the Name of the Father Son and Holy SPirit.. there is no difference. When we have Jesus we have both the Father and the Spirit. He embodies the Fullness of the Godhead.
Great.. thought provoking and well put post brother George
In Christ
sandy
2007-12-12 06:50:51 · answer #2 · answered by Broken Alabaster Flask 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Geography class???? What on earth (no pun intended) does baptism have to do with geography? Well, there are four baptisms described in Scripture. Israel's going through the Red (Reed?) Sea was one. There is also baptism by water, baptism by the Holy Spirit, and a baptism of fire. The one that Christians should be interested in is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and it is not dependent upon water baptism. Paul wrote: There is one faith; one baptism. .
2016-05-23 05:59:17 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
No it doe not detract but supports the same. Repent, accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, take the word of God and baptize in the name of the Father........Do you recall when Jesus went to John and asked to be baptized (it was to fulfill prophecy) Matt. 28:19 just instructs us what do to. Is it part of salvation? No it is a testament to men so they can see that the believer has turn his or her life from the world and will try to be as Christlike as possible; the man on the cross did not get baptized still Jesus told him you will be in Heaven today---he believed; read what he said to the other criminal.
2007-12-12 06:17:07 · answer #4 · answered by Lifeline 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Baptism isnt neccesary to become a Christian. Getting saved in an inward descision, but Baptism shows the world that you are unashamed of the descision youve made, and simply represents what has been done: Youve been washed by Jesus, and now are made new and clean. Baptism represents this. If you are truley saved, it is something you would want to do.
Also re read the verse: The that beleives and is baptized shall be saved. But in the verse right after he says, but he doesnt believe will be damned. (didnt mention baptism the second time)
anyways, again it represents what has been done.
and the gift of the Holy Ghost is another/separate experience.
2007-12-12 06:10:13 · answer #5 · answered by kellythetrainer 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Christians always interpreted the Bible literally when it declares, "Baptism . . . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body, but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (1 Pet. 3:21; cf. Acts 2:38, 22:16, Rom. 6:3–4, Col. 2:11–12), and they have always interpreted that as WATER BAPTISM. Thus the early Church Fathers wrote in the Nicene Creed (A.D. 381), "We believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins."
And the Catechism of the Catholic Church states: "The Lord himself affirms that baptism is necessary for salvation [John 3:5]. . . . Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament [Mark 16:16]" (CCC 1257).
The Christian belief that water baptism is necessary for salvation is so unshakable that even the Protestant Martin Luther affirmed the necessity of baptism. He wrote: "Baptism is no human plaything but is instituted by God himself. Moreover, it is solemnly and strictly commanded that we must be baptized or we shall not be saved. We are not to regard it as an indifferent matter, then, like putting on a new red coat. It is of the greatest importance that we regard baptism as excellent, glorious, and exalted" (Large Catechism 4:6).
Still, even though the necessity of water baptism is a normative, there are exceptions to water baptism. It is possible to be saved through "baptism of blood," martyrdom for Christ, or through "baptism of desire", that is, an explicit or even implicit desire for baptism. This applies to, say, the Good Thief on the cross. Thus the Catechism of the Catholic Church also states: "Those who die for the faith, those who are catechumens, and all those who, without knowing of the Church but acting under the inspiration of grace, seek God sincerely and strive to fulfill his will, are saved even if they have not been baptized" (CCC 1281; the salvation of unbaptized infants is also possible under this system; cf. CCC 1260–1, 1283).
I suggest you read the first seven links on this page:
http://www.catholic.com/library/sacraments.asp
2007-12-12 06:03:31 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
I believe its Peter saying the significance of Jesus in the baptism. When you get baptized through Jesus, the Holy Spirit enters as a gift from God. But you are supposed to be baptized in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit. This passage in acts doesn't say to only be baptized in the name of Jesus, it says to be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remissions of sins.
2007-12-12 06:08:10 · answer #7 · answered by Mashu 4 · 1⤊ 3⤋
The Gospel is very simple, and baptism is not required for salvation. The only way to be saved is to believe that Jesus, who is God, died for our sins on the cross and rose again (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). You're taking those verses out of context.
2007-12-12 06:07:23 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
no i don't believe it denies the God but rather fulfills what Jesus said in Matt. 28:19
2007-12-12 06:08:16 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
It is an outward sign of what is already happening inside the person.. THE BIBLE DOESNT ever go against God..
2007-12-12 06:05:32 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋