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If, as Christians claim, Yahweh "hates the sin, but loves the sinner", why is the sinner sent to hell for eternity, and not the sin?

What exactly is the "sin" (meaning it must be some "thing" that can be hated, something at least seemingly temporal, or Satan) that is so hated, and why must the "sinner" have to pay the eternal ultimate price for the sin?

Is there anyone here who can construct some semblance of a rational argument for this trite and empty platitude offered by Christians?

2007-12-12 04:19:49 · 25 answers · asked by QED 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The answer too is simple:

1) That person ignored the Lovingness shown by GOD and chose to live his own sinful ways.

2) Doing something against the plan of GOD is Sin. More clarification: How did robbing or murder become a crime? when the court judged it so.

3) You yourself trying to comment - NONE working out? huh!

2007-12-12 04:29:42 · answer #1 · answered by Potter'sClay-Isa 64:8 6 · 1 0

That is the case hate the sin but love the sinner. Christians are not perfect and therefore sin as well but with regards to being sent to hell everyone was a choice to accept Christ and have eternal life or reject him and spend it in hell. Just because Christians are not going to hell doesn't mean that they don't sin.

Sin is when you do something wrong like lying, stealing etc.

2007-12-12 04:33:56 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I know what you mean, personally I do not think anyone deserves to go to hell for all eternity, no matter what they done, I think everyone deserves to simply feel any pain that they have caused to others during their lifetime, but that's just me, I'm sure God will answer all my questions when the time is right.

But I also think hell is not a burning pit like many Christians imagine it, I just think it is just a place with no hope.

I actually talked to a friend about this the other day, and what she said to me that she believes that time is a human construction, in heaven and hell there is no time, so being sent to hell for all eternity or being in heaven for all eternity is probably very different from how we imagine it, because we see everything in terms of time, with a past, present and future.

And whatever primoa says... you can repent from sin all you want, but you will still sin almost every minute that you are alive. I think the key is just being the best person you can be, developing spiritually, and maintaining your relationship with God.

2007-12-12 04:33:47 · answer #3 · answered by . 6 · 0 1

I like apples. But, if those apples are spoiled I can't eat them. Though I love apples I know that spoiled produce isn't healthy. So, is it the apples that I hate if I have to discard them? Sin is like that but, in a much greater way. Where as in the case of sin; it is a decision, and a condition of the heart and mind - not an object.

Sin is the transgression of the law. The wager for sin is death. God's law is based on love. Those who cannot follow this simple commandment will face eternal death. They won't receive eternal life in Hell. There will be no life at all for them. God will not tolerate sin. He will not stand to see His people suffer at the hands of sin. Think about it: would you have perfect peace and happiness in a world full of murderers, rapists, and thieves? It's a simple question, too. Sin will be abolished permanently as well as those who are committed to it.

God's purpose in sending His son and the message of the prophets in the Bible was not so that degenerate men could learn space travel but, to love his fellow man and the world that he now lives on. This is the learning block of those who claim to be intelligent.

Some may not like or comprehend this answer but, It doesn't get much simpler than that

2007-12-12 04:54:04 · answer #4 · answered by F'sho 4 · 0 0

The idea that God hates sin is not originally or exclusively Christian. Your question, however, clearly reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of God's arrangement.

Sin is simply commission of unrighteous acts. Sinners no longer have to pay any price at all for sin, provided that they repent of it and accept Jesus Christ as there Lord and Savior, as provided by God.

It is good that you have been thinking about these things, as your life depends on it.

2007-12-12 04:32:27 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He sent His only begotten Son that whosoever believes on Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

God sent His son to pay for sin because He loves sinners. If you believe and put your trust in Christ your sins will be paid for and you won't go to hell.

This doesn't mean you can sin all you want, for there is no way you'd want to be a slave to sin when you have been freed from the power of sin.

2007-12-12 04:26:33 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I assume you have parents? Have you ever done something really wrong, illegal or otherwise, something that really, really offended your parents? Now ask yourself, did your parents hate you and throw you out of the house, never to be allowed to be a part of the family ever again?

Let’s assume, for the sake of argument, that they didn’t. What does this tell us? They didn’t hate you, just what you did. They “hated the sin” but they didn’t “hate the sinner.”

Sin, by definition, is not a specific act per se. Rather, it is a nature, an attitude, if you will. Biblically speaking, it is the predisposition to do sinful acts, or to act in a sinful way. Consider the following:

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

sinned

Sin, Summary: The literal meanings of the Heb. and Greek disclose the true nature of sin in its manifold manifestations. Sin is transgression, an overstepping of the law, the divine boundary between good and evil (Psalms 51:1; Luke 15:29), iniquity, an act inherently wrong, whether expressly forbidden or not; error, a departure from right ; (Psalms 51:9; Romans 3:23), missing the mark, a failure to meet the divine standard; trespass, the intrusion of self-will into the sphere of divine authority (Ephesians 2:1), lawlessness, or spiritual anarchy (1 Timothy 1:9), unbelief, or an insult to the divine veracity (John 16:9).
Sin originated with Satan (Isaiah 14:12-14), entered the world through Adam (Romans 5:12), was, and is, universal, Christ alone excepted ; (Romans 3:23; 1 Peter 2:22), incurs the penalties of spiritual and physical death ; (Genesis 2:17; 3:19; Ezekiel 18:4,20; Romans 6:23) and has no remedy but in the sacrificial death of Christ ; (Hebrews 9:26; Acts 4:12) availed of by faith (Acts 13:38,39). Sin may be summarized as threefold: An act, the violation of, or want of obedience to the revealed will of God; a state, absence of righteousness; a nature, enmity toward God.

As you can see from the notes above, sin makes us enemies of God. As long as we indulge in it, we remain so. However, there is a further problem in that it defines us as to who we are, meaning that, even though we might try to deny that part of our nature and try to do good, we can’t escape it any more than we can escape our skin or hair color. It isn’t necessarily the acts, but rather the predisposition to sin that we have to deal with. I may not want to sin, but I have inherited the predisposition to do so, whether I want it or not. And as long as that condition exists, I must be considered an enemy of God, and can only look forward to spending eternity in everlasting hell.

The wisdom of God is that He recognizes this condition, and has made a way for us to avoid that certain eternal torment through the redemptive work of Christ. Jesus paid the price for me for my predisposition to sin, and now I need not face that option for my eternal future. However, it’s a different story with Satan; he can’t avoid eternal torment because he is ultimately the real guilty party in all this. He not only suffers for what he did, but also for what he got all of us to do as well. In my book, that’s a pretty righteous judgement.

2007-12-12 08:11:51 · answer #7 · answered by bruce d 2 · 0 0

See I can answer however, it is obviousl that you are already "biased" against it, so whats the point ?
You really don't want to know, just to argue about it.

I don't or wont argue with People who have closed their minds already, it's like putting perfume on a hog.

But..I case you are really interested, Try this link concerning original sin.

Original sin is known in two senses: the Fall of Adam as the "original" sin and the hereditary fallen nature and moral corruption that is passed down from Adam to his descendents. It is called "original" in that Adam, the first man, is the one who sinned and thus caused sin to enter the world. Even though Eve is the one who sinned first, because Adam is the Federal Head (representative of mankind), his fall included or represented all of humanity. Therefore, some hold that original sin includes the falling of all humanity. Some see original sin as Adam's fallen nature is passed to his descendents. "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned," (Rom. 5:12).
Original sin is not a physical corruption, but a moral and spiritual corruption. It could be compared to the Reformed Doctrine of Total Depravity which states that sin has touched all parts of what a person is: heart, mind, soul, will, thoughts, desires, etc.
There has been much debate over the nature of the sin of Adam and how it effected mankind. Pelagius taught that Adam's sin influenced the human race only as a bad example and that all people are born in the same state as Adam was before his fall. Augustine taught that men inherit natural corruption from Adam.1
At the return of Christ and the resurrection of all Christians, the sin nature will be done away with.

2007-12-12 04:26:18 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

There is no eternal burning in hell. Read from your bible Ecclesiastes 9:5 and Psalms 146:4. Would it make sense for God to punish us for the rest of eternity for sins that we commited during a life span of 70 or 80 years at best? The bible says that Yahweh or Jehovah is a just God.
God loves all us. But He gave us free will and expects us to obey Him. If we decide to sin instead, our punishment is everlasting desctruction - or quite simply - death. "The wages for sin is death".

2007-12-12 04:33:16 · answer #9 · answered by gatsgrl 3 · 0 0

Cliches are platitudes, as you say. Don't think that it is a systematic theology, it is a quippy one liner.

The idea is that God doesn't WANT you to do what you are doing which is sinning (beating your wife let's say). But because you are CHOOSING to beat your wife, you have to be punished. You chose to do it. HE loves you and is going to be upset at having to punish you, but he loves her too and has to punish you because you CHOSE your action and were warned not to.

Most people think of sin, as something I do that I shouldn't and it really is a victimless crime. Odd, but that is what they think. In reality 90% of the "sins" outlined in the bible were like Murder, Rape, Theft, so on and so on. Sorcery, (which more accuratly can be translated drug use). So why you are "sinning" you are most likely hurting others in a terrible way. God loves us all.

BTW, let's not talk about eternal punishments. There is no agreement there and none of us will have that job.

2007-12-12 04:27:52 · answer #10 · answered by TK421 5 · 1 0

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