Is the story of Jesus dying logical?

Question

We are told "Jesus died for our sins".
If this was the case, and there were such things as "sins", and if Jesus was the "only begotten son of God" why would God invent sins in the first place, if he then had to lose his "only begotten son" to rebalance the sin dilemma.
But, Christ did not die – he only changed from one energy form into another – and then changed back (resurrected) – so he didn't really die at all. That complicates it. Did he TECHNICALLY die so that is OK?

But, (the big one) why is there no record of when he came back where everyone was so joyful that all their sins had been saved? Surely, this would have been cause for the largest global celebration on Earth – but there wasn't any. There is no record of any celebration of this type anywhere on Earth. Why is that?? According to the bible, Jesus was virtually ignored by the multitudes after his resurrection - strange, isn't it?

Religions have not thought this through. It is just not logical

Peacefromken.

Mr Vincent Van Jessup - How can you call another "stupid", when Jesus was about LOVE. I don't recall in the bible where Jesus used words like that to describe any other person.

Answer 1

According to the Bible, Jesus knew he was going to die at the hands of man and realized through his life experiences that we "know not what we do." As a result of this, He said this is it, you are forgiven of your sins as of right now. He was aware that we are not perfect, nor will we ever be, and He loved us just the same.

Where religion has this all screwed up is that this is the result of God not being perfect either. If you read the Old Testament, God is wrathful and vengeful, putting standards on humans that we are incapable of living up to. When Jesus came and was a human living amongst other humans He basically told God he had it wrong and changed everything. God knew something was wrong that He wasn't getting. That's why Jesus was put here to begin with--a part of God to live amongst the humans and figure this out.

As far as any celebration, hardly anyone believed Jesus when he was here, and they certainly weren't going to believe in him after he died. He only showed himself to a few, who were to put out the word of his short return. Those who had faith believed, the rest didn't.

You are right, religions haven't thought this through. They have it all muddled up, didn't listen to hardly a word that Jesus said, and still go by that fear God fire-and-brimstone crap that Jesus had already had enough of. Someday we can only hope that people start to actually read the Bible and Jesus' words instead of letting these cult leaders and ignoramus religious fanatics do it for them.

Answer 2

Before Jesus came in the flesh, we are told that sinners who repented WERE saved by faith in the substitute slayed animal sacrifices outlined by God. And like those of today, they had to stop sinning (that's what repenting means). The actual atonement, however, took place with perfect timing when Jesus became the ultimate sacrifice these animals prefigured. So before Jesus came, the people looked FORWARD to the cross while those after, look BACK to the atonement on the cross. Therefore, in a way, you're right: it is the same for those who repent of their sins. For those who don't, there is no sacrifice or heaven. It really wouldn't have mattered when God would have chosen to send Jesus to earth but being gracious as He is, He gave mankind all the prophecies needed to help man recognize the true Messiah and prove, once again, that God keeps His promises regarding salvation and judgments. He couldn't have made these any clearer.

Answer 3

God didn't make sin. Sin was made through the evil of Satan. God gave Lucifer his own free will and so Lucifer decided to influence God's creation (the human species) with sin and temptation. And at that time there were only a few Christians living within the Jewish community, and they were the only ones who rejoiced since they were the only ones who recognized Jesus. God is mysterious, God's plan is mysterious and we humans cannot understand it for we have limited capabilities and very very limited intelligence. But another question, if we are the chosen people of God, why aren't we created as an intelligent and wise people. Probably God has His own reasons.

Answer 4

I can't answer like a theologian, but have read on the subject. The Christian God didn't invent sin. Sins are actions that cause harm in a universe where there exists good and evil. As for him dieing, the fact that he died isn't the issue as much as that he, as a being that exists outside of time, endured hell so others wouldn't need to. Christians morn for him still because he would still continue to endure it.

For the second paragraph's questoin, at that time the world had already rejected him. I can only remember him appearing to Mary in the garden, and she didn't recognize him at first, and to a small group of people one other time.

Go back through and re-read the stuff, there's a place for it in society. Our founding fathers stated religion was vital even though many were not religious because a society needs a common morality to function. Are Christians hounding you so much that you have to insult them?

Answer 5

Is my dream logical that the curse to a devil was actually a human form so the devil will feel pain and sorrow etc.
But now the curse has been lifted and the devil it self is awaken?
But the voice of god said that the devil will die?

Answer 6

Christians should be made to wear a sign on their foreheads that says: "THOUGHT STOPS HERE!"

There is no logic or reasoning facilities whatsoever inherent in Christianity. Christianity is one of those aberrations and dysfunctions of the human mind for which there is no treatment except atheism. Atheism is the ONLY safe and proven anecdote for religious belief.

Answer 7

I'll leave this for the god-man's lovers to answer. I can predict what they will be. How logical is it to state that Jesus died when he actually did not, since he supposedly resurrected himself a few days later?

Answer 8

Religions have not thought this through. It is just not logical

Paul wrote about you, Did you know that,



For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:
"I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."
Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

Answer 9

If you are really interested in this topic - two great books recommended as MUST READING:

"Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis

"The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel


You read those as companion pieces to the Gospel of John with an open mind and a sincere heart - trust me - you will come to know the truth and it will set you free!

Answer 10

Jesus said only when a mustard seed dies, it can grow into a tree giving more mustard seeds. That is how Christianity has grown. It has become a big tree & marhyas die so that more trees grow & more seeds.Its a chain reaction. He died for our sins, we killed him. He died so that we do not sin no more.