For eg. Jesus as an Avatar of Lord Vishnu or Jesus as an Avatar of Allah or Jesus as an Avatar of the Father who sent the Son ?
Perhaps there are a lot of similarities that Jesus was Satvic in Nature and also Lord Vishnu is also considered the Lord of Satva Guna, the Satvic Quality.
See some similarities over here with the concept of Avatar / Descendence of Yesu / The Jesus Christ.
http://yeshusamaj.org/
2007-12-11 22:54:34 · 13 answers · asked by jayakrishnamenon 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Sathya Sai Baba once said that Jesus actually Realised His Self while He was in the Cross and then only He could say that Me, My Father and Holy Spirit are One and the Same.
Could the life of Jesus a story of Asendance like that of ancient sages in India rather than that of descendance like an Avatar.
Till the time of Crucification He could not proclaim that All are One and the Same. So don't you think its a beautiful story of step by step Ascendence to Self Realisation rather than the Descendence like an Avatar ?
What are your thoughts ?
Is there any Scriptural writing confirming Ascendence or Descendence
2007-12-11 23:05:55 · update #1
Ascendance like that of Buddha perhaps ..
2007-12-11 23:08:42 · update #2
i like your idea of jesus ascending, growing - he is not perfectly detached when he gets angry at the moneylenders - he is not perfectly realised when he is in agony about the prospect of going on the cross - he is not perfectly free from need of love when he is irritated at the disciples for falling asleep - he is not perfect when he needs to pray for support from god - he is not perfect when he does not understand the perfect love purpose of people having eyes and ears and not seeing and hearing - the cross symbolises the perfect balance point between worlds, between higher and lower, right and left - to come into the world he has to come into some degree of ignorance - he has to have some bias - to know what humanity experiences, he has to be imperfectly aware, and to grow in understanding of the essential spirit of life - he is still bound by the guna of sattva - without perfect detachment, indifference between so-called good and so-called evil, there is no freedom to experience the pure quality of being [= all energies], quite free from doing - teachers are bound by their love of teaching - they are graduate students going over their learning, rounding off their knowledge, moving to the last step, perfect detachment, enabling perfect experience of infinite energy [love, perfection] everywhere, in everything, 'good' and 'bad'. it is through his imperfection that we relate to him, love him and know him - this is an example of seeming bad being ultimately good - the eternal way of the world [god, life, love] is to make good and evil and bring [the perfect, 'higher', absolute, complete] good out of evil [out of the conflict and play of good and evil] [imo]
2007-12-12 06:38:09 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
Y'shua (Jesus) IS G-d, not some avatar or some other crazy thing.
Yochanan (John) 1:1-3 says
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with G-d, and the Word was G-d. The Same was in the beginning with G-d. All things were made through Him. Without Him was not anything made that has been made
Yochanan (John) 1:14 says
The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw His glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.
As for calling Y'shua (Jesus) 'yeshu' or 'yesu' it's insulting! 'yeshu' means 'yemach shemo vezichro' meaning: May his name and memory be obliterated", a term used for those guilty of enticing Jews to idolatry. The acronym was specifically used to discredit Y'shua ha Mashiach (Jesus Christ) in the Talmud.
2007-12-11 23:24:16 · answer #2 · answered by Messianic Jewish Shmuely 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Bhavishya Puran, a sacred scripture of India does mention that a religious leader by the name of Khrist will be born on this earth, but does not relate him to be an incarnation of God Vishnu.I never came across any literature that claims as such.The entire population of the world belong to one of the three qualities,i.e.satvic,rajasic or tamasic..Suppose,1% of them have satvic nature, it appears far fetched to equate them on par with God Vishnu. It will tantamount a blaspheme in my opinion.
2007-12-12 15:55:37 · answer #3 · answered by yogeshwargarg 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
There is also no scripture that says that I am not an avatar of God .Neither is there one that tells that you are not one also.
I challenge any one to show me any scripture that tells like that .So you are as much an Avatar as I and Jesus Christ also!Thre are millions of people who are truely humble and satvic and do not have the the arrogance of claiming to be to be the sole son of God and others as lambs .Unknown are those who were really satvic .Blessed are those that died unknown.!
2007-12-12 05:14:53 · answer #4 · answered by Infinity 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Lord Jesus was an incarnation of Lord Vishnu,lord Christ spoke of the oneness that Vedanta supports
2007-12-13 03:19:44 · answer #5 · answered by gasp 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Most probably, there is no writing with the status of 'scripture' on this! There are theories, though. One is reminded of the anecdote wherein Mahatma Gandhi said "i would be a deserving 'Mahatma' only if i am able to say 'Ram' in my last moments!" (he said that to Tagore, i think, in a certain context!). Every life is a story of evolution, maturing, gradual ascendance from birth to the last few moments! And, every death is, perhaps, 'samadhi'!
2007-12-12 22:32:01 · answer #6 · answered by swanjarvi 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Avatar is a Hindu word & it does not apply to him.
"Before Abraham was, I am" is enough to say that Jesus is more than a avatar.
Crucification of Jesus was not to fulfill his personal karma but it is for the whole world's karma.
2007-12-12 22:44:18 · answer #7 · answered by Muthu S 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
having so much of following and such a faith in him there is no reason he shouldnt be considered as avtar,,he is for sure an avtar,,some one may believe it or not,,thst doesnt make a difference fact remains so many are influenced by his preachuings and doings,,that amply prove that he was the greatest avtar to be on earth
2007-12-12 22:06:30 · answer #8 · answered by Inder 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Good question and one I have contemplated before. Jesus said he is the son of God, but calls us all children of God, meaning we have the capability to be like him and God. What Christians believe is that Jesus is the Messiah and was born as God, not having to ascend to this state like the rest of us. Christians also believe that you do not have to fully achieve that full oneness with God in this life in order to reach Nirvana, because in Christian belief we have but one life to get it right (tall order Huh?). Jesus, as the Messiah, has become the path for us lowly sinners who are, but with few exceptions, destine to fail in becoming God like. His message is to always try to be as him, loving others as yourself, but also forgive yourself and those who do misstep. Christianity is a belief system of compassion, if you follow Jesus's teachings.
2007-12-12 04:08:48 · answer #9 · answered by DMG 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
JESUS CANNOT BE GOD...AS HE IS BORN A NORMAL HUMAN BEING...JESUS IS SON OF GOD..GOD DOESNT NEED TO GO THROUGH SAME PROCESS AS HUMAN BEINGS TO COME IN TO THIS WORLD..GOD TO MY BELEIF HAS TO BE SOMEONE UNIQUE WHO HAS CREATED THE WHOLE UNIVERSE...YES JESUS IS A PROPHET OR A MESSENEGR FROM GOD...BUT NOT GOD...I HOPE YOU UNDERSTOOD VERY WELL...MESSEAGE IS VERY CLEAR..ITS JUST HOW YOU TAKE IT...IF YOU TRY AND UNDERSTAND THE UNIVERSE YOU WOULDNT THINK ITS S MANS CREATION...YOU KNOW WAT MY FREIND...A HUMAN BEING CANNOT CREATE A SMALL SIMPLE VAIN OF YOUR BODY..OR A APRT OF SKIN...HOW CAN JESUS BE A GOD...?
2007-12-12 03:53:31 · answer #10 · answered by FAZEEL H 1 · 2⤊ 0⤋