Does Luke 23:34 also apply to Judas? Is Jesus'atonement insufficent for Judas' sins?

Question

It has been speculated that Judas' damnation, which seems to be possible from the Gospels' text, may not actually stem from his betrayal of Christ, but from the despair which caused him to subsequently commit suicide. This position is not without its problems, but it does avoid the paradox of Judas' predestined act of setting in motion both the salvation of all mankind & his own damnation. Can you unraval the question?

Answer 1

i do believe that if Judas hade repented after betraying Jesus
he would be in heaven. his damnation was taking his own life.

Answer 2

The first part of Luke 23:34 is omitted from certain ancient manuscripts. However, because these words are found in many other authoritative manuscripts, they are included in the New World Translation and numerous other translations. Jesus was evidently speaking about the Roman soldiers who impaled him. They did not know what they were doing, being ignorant of who Jesus really was. Of course, the religious leaders who instigated that execution were far more reprehensible, for they acted knowingly and maliciously. For many of them, no forgiveness was possible.

Certain Jewish religious leaders who opposed Jesus did commit willful, and thus unforgivable, sin. Though they saw God’s holy spirit at work through Jesus as he did good and performed miracles, those clerics ascribed his power to Beelzebub, or Satan the Devil. They sinned with their eyes wide open to the undeniable operation of God’s spirit. Thus, they committed unforgivable sin, for Jesus said: “Whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come.”

The sin of Judas Iscariot also was unforgivable. His betrayal of Jesus was the willful, deliberate culmination of a course of hypocrisy and dishonesty. For instance, when Judas saw Mary anoint Jesus with costly oil, he asked: “Why was it this perfumed oil was not sold for three hundred denarii and given to the poor people?” The apostle John added: “[Judas] said this, though, not because he was concerned about the poor, but because he was a thief and had the money box and used to carry off the monies put in it.” Soon thereafter, Judas betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. True, Judas felt remorse and committed suicide. But he was not forgiven, since his deliberate, persistently selfish course and his treacherous act reflected his sin against the holy spirit. How appropriate that Jesus should call Judas “the son of destruction”

Answer 3

Despite what Judas did, ALL he would have had to do was to ask Jesus to forgive him and Jesus would have.

But Judas never did.

After Judas received his 30 pieces of silver & then led the Roman soldiers to Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane and after Judas kissed Jesus Christ on the cheek, Judas fled.

He never saw Jesus again after the Garden of Gethsemane.

Judas then when back to the Pharisees (i.e., Jewish High Priests & Jewish scribes=legal leaders) who had paid him 30 pieces of silver to betray Jesus and Judas tried to return the money, when they refused he threw it at their feet, and then went and hung himself that same evening.

Judas was dead long before Jesus was nailed to the cross on Calvary.

The priests did not want the "blood money" in their possession, so they used the 30 pieces of silver to purchase a barren field owned by a man who was a potter by profession. It was a lot on the outskirts of town which was used to bury the poor and the unclaimed. It became known as Potter's field.

Answer 4

we dont know for sure if Judas was damned or not. we can, however, speculate. and if i understand your question correctly, then i believe it was NOT Judas's betrayl of Jesus that may have damned him. It was his lack of hope that Jesus could forgive him. Saint Peter committed the same sin (Luke 22:31-34 and Luke 22:54-65). the difference between the two was this- Peter asked for forgiveness and Jesus garnted it. Judas did not. Instead he committed an enormous act of hopelessness.

Answer 5

that is all smoke and mirrors, delusion and delusion. There are 2 biblical money owed as to how Judas died and all the money owed of the Jesus-difficulty are written years after his meant loss of life. All solid thoughts desire a solid guy and a undesirable guy, even with the plain necessity for the undesirable guy. Twisted tale, eh? they should have written it so as that Judas got here out smelling like roses for cementing gods will for a waffling Jesus.

Answer 6

Jesus atonement is sufficient for the sins of the entire world, not only 2000 yrs. ago but infinitely into the future. The problem with Judas was that he did not repent. Jesus offered the gift, Judas did not and could not(after death) accept it. Peter was actually worse, I only know of 2 sins Judas committed, Peter at least 3, but Peter repented.

Answer 7

Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Judas knew what he was doing. His suicide proves this. His despair sprang from his act of betrayal.

Answer 8

Jesus atonement was sufficient for Judas sin. But then Judas didn't confess Jesus Christ His Lord nor believe in Jesus Resurrection. So? He didn't get saved.

He should have waited to see if Jesus would truly raise from the dead. But then, it was prophecied in the OT that Judas would do what he did. So? God knew Judas would do this already.

One has to receive Jesus' Atonement to be saved. Jesus atonement is sufficient for even the worst sin, to torture an innocent one to death (Judas was guilty of this) Jesus said, 'Father, forgive them, they know not what they do.".

Answer 9

Judas knew the truth about Jesus Christ and probably believed that Jesus Christ was who He claimed to be. For that matter, so does satan. Knowledge of the truth and belief in the key points regarding salvation is not what saves a person.

Judas failed to surrender to Christ Jesus, repent of his sin, and fully trust Jesus Christ as His Lord. That is why he is damned.

Answer 10

it is plainley written in the word
and it can be found in Genesis
and it is written
" If you do well will ye not be accepted , but if ye do not well , sin lieth at the door "

Judas could have REPENTED
but the evil He did was even more then he himself could bare
thus killing himself....and not listening nor following what GOD said , and wanting more the money...He as do most people today didnt listen to what Jesus was teaching even him....that HE ( Jesus) died for his sins as well and gave atonement for it........if ONLY HE BELIEVED and REPENTED...same as the thief on the cross.........who deserved his punishment but even in it was delieverd that same day...by the death of Jesus and the Repentence and belief in HIM.........and that very day HE was in Paradise with Christ..........
" to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord"
WHERE HE IS !!!!