The question of Christmas Trees and its relationship with Jeremiah 10:2-5, 2Thus says the LORD,
"Do not learn the way of the nations,
And do not be terrified by the signs of the heavens
Although the nations are terrified by them;
3For the customs of the peoples are delusion;
Because it is wood cut from the forest,
The work of the hands of a craftsman with a cutting tool.
4"They decorate it with silver and with gold;
They fasten it with nails and with hammers
So that it will not totter.
5"Like a scarecrow in a cucumber field are they,
And they cannot speak;
They must be carried,
Because they cannot walk!
Do not fear them,
For they can do no harm,
Nor can they do any good."
Anyone who can comment why this is a Christmas Tree please do so. Are our Christmas Trees hand-crafted, are they carried? Do we fasten gold and silver with nails?
2007-12-11
11:45:55
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Edited--wow, what a response and so quick. Thanks everyone for your kind replies. I'm really asking the Jehovah's Witnesses why this piece of hand-crafted wood had gold and silver fastened with nails and needed to be carried can possibly be anything at all similar to a Christmas Tree? Please read the context of the four verses and don't block out any of the critical words. Thankyou.
2007-12-11
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Jeremiah is talking about IDOLS here. Idol worship has been a problem throughout the ages and that is why God made a specific law against it in the big 10(#2) . Now concerning Christmas trees. I am a fundie so hold on to your socks you liberal Christians out there because I find no fault with having a Christmas tree as long as you do not worship it as an idol. I agree that Christmas is not what it should be since all these "pagan rites" have crept in, and to some the Christmas tree represents this pagan, commercial, idol worshiping nonsense. But to those of us who know that the tree is nothing more than a traditional decoration akin to hanging lights on your front porch, it does not represent any pagan practice. We are celebrating the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ . If we keep Christ in the center of our love, then the tree, the lights, the gifts and all the other nonsense pale into insignificance. Merry Christmas!!!
2007-12-11 11:58:20
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answered by Anonymous
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I really don't think Jeremiah was talking about Christmas trees :-)
The way I read it, he was warning against the making of false idols or graven images "like a scarecrow in a cucumber field" that "cannot speak" and "must be carried" because they "cannot walk".
If you want a Christmas tree, go get a tree and put it up and don't worry about it.
2007-12-11 11:53:42
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answered by ? 7
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Marxist Thelemite? That's more contradictory than a Neo-Nazi Satanist [and I've known one before]. Lol. Karl Marx's philosophy doesn't really mesh well with Thelema, I'm curious how you rationalize it. After all, Marx was famous for saying that "religion is the opiate of the masses"; from my understanding of Thelema it is very individualistic and all about following your own Will whereas Marxism is all about the good of the community and state. If you advocate a Marxist utopia wouldn't you imposing your Will on others, others who may not share your ideals? And to answer your question the bible of course doesn't mention any of those things. All the traditional decorations such as budding boughs, flowers, decorated eggs and the Rabbit motif all hail from Northern European religious practices. Christians adopted them in order to convert more people.
2016-04-08 21:41:25
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answered by Jane 4
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Like many Christian celebrations the idea of the “Christmas tree” actually spawns from a certain pagan ritual where they would cut down a tree and bring it into their home and decorate it or shape it into one of their gods. Legend has it that in Germany St. Boniface (675-755), who converted the German people to Christianity, was said to have found some pagans worshiping an oak tree and in anger he cut down the tree and to his amazement on the inside he found a young fir tree growing. This was taken as a Christianization of this ancient pagan idea that the evergreen tree represents a celebration of new life and from there on the fir tree was given a Christian symbolism at Christmas time.
Taken from the website:
http://www.professorshouse.com/family/holidays/where-did-christmas-tree-come-from.aspx
2007-12-11 11:56:30
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answered by luteachris 4
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God was saying not to do what the heathens do. Christmas trees ARE what the heathens do, as are MANY other "religious" acts. The bible doesn't mention Christmas trees because Christmas is NOT biblical!!! I'd say these verses of Jeremiah are just what they were meant to be... PROPHETIC!!!
That being said, put up a tree if you want, and use it as a tool to spread the Gospel!
2007-12-11 11:52:34
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answered by Halfadan 4
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This is not a Christmas tree that is described here, it is an idol. Now if you worship your Christmas tree, then it becomes an idol too, personally I don't worship a tree, and I couldn't ever afford to decorate any tree with real silver and gold.
2007-12-11 11:53:14
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answered by Thrice Blessed 6
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Christmas is definitely a pagan holiday parents are lying to there children about a fat guy in a suite turning there children into idol worshippers at a young age.. my eyes have been open and I will not get another Christmas tree and I'm slowly but surely making my family understand my beliefs that we need not celebrate Christmas anymore
2013-12-24 00:24:12
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answered by Rachel Harvey 1
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I don't think that refers to Christmas trees. The word "Christmas" did not exist yet. It may be referring to fertility cults, which included wooden and hand-made idols. Another answerer also noted that it refers to idolatry. The "customs" of the people engaged in that practice were indeed delusional, for they believed they would be blessed if they performed truly disgusting, abhorrent acts, including child sacrifice.
2007-12-11 11:54:07
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answered by Cookie777 6
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2015-01-24 10:43:39
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answered by Anonymous
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The subject is idol worship. Do you worship a Christmas tree? If not, don't worry about it.
2007-12-11 11:51:07
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answered by David G 6
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