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Not the Bible. I mean history books or records of some kind. I'm just curious. Thanks.

2007-12-11 08:13:19 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

(((ddking37)))) What a nice thing to say. Thank you. Although I'll bet there are many who would dispute it. lol

2007-12-11 08:42:03 · update #1

Betafishy...Isn't it apparent that I excluded the Bible because I am already well aware that Jesus is in the Bible. I was asking for other places where he may have been recorded.

2007-12-11 08:47:41 · update #2

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No uncontested ones as far as I know.

2007-12-11 08:16:53 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 8 1

There's a second reference to Jesus in Josephus' writings, besides the one that disputed. You also have Tacitus, Suetonius, and Pliny the Younger. A couple writings from a little later would be Origen and Julius Africanus.
There is some debate - which is probably obvious from some of the answers you've gotten. Here's a couple of links to some pretty good articles dealing with the references I mentioned (plus a few others if I recall) - as well as the arguments against the validity of the sources. They also do a decent job explaining why He was basically ignored by most of the historians of His day:
http://www.tektonics.org/jesusexist/jesusexisthub.html
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/jesusref.html

2007-12-11 08:41:14 · answer #2 · answered by Marji 4 · 2 0

How is the Bible not historic previous? we've greater unique manuscripts of the hot Testiment than we do of the Iliad, and all of the historic activities listed contained in the Bible are in keeping with different information we've of historic previous. If that's not sufficient, then enable's inspect different data (i did not cite the passages right here through fact they are long and that i don't prefer to repeat them yet once you particularly prefer to be responsive to this, study "Case for Christ"): a million. The Qu'ran mentions Jesus (even however you will not settle for that as historic previous, however this faith calls out explicitly that Jesus became not God even however he existed). 2. Josephus, in "The Antiquities", surprisingly the section talked approximately as "Testimonium Flavianum". This became finished around ninety 3 advert 3. Tacitus, a well-known century Roman historian. i don't have the call of his literature, yet have passages from it. 4. Pliny the greater youthful, a governor in northwest Turkey, in his correspondance with Emperor Trajan. This became probable around early one hundred's advert. 5. Thallus, who in fifty two advert wrote approximately an eclipse that occured around the time of the crucifiction, corroborating the day of darkness contained in the Bible. that still is hinted with the help of Plegon, a Greek author, and Tertullian. 6. Jewish classic literature mentions Jesus, yet in basic terms sparingly, as a healer and miracle-worker. bear in ideas that not all of those are titled as they are letters and such that have been preserved or recovered. i'm not a historian, yet this could be a respectable quantity of data for being a guy or woman who became not a politcal parent and lived 2000 years in the past.

2016-10-01 09:23:24 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

The only contemporary history that anyone claims to mention Jesus are the works of Flavius Josephus....and those entries are widely considered to be forgeries....even as early as the fourth century when the early church father Eusebius noticed that the 'jesus passage' was not in older manuscripts of josephus, but only in later ones. Even he, Eusebius, who had every reason to perpetuate the fraud, called it straight. ie, the passage in Josephus referring to Jesus is a forgery and there are no extant or otherwise known contemporary histories that record the events outside the Gospels.

2007-12-11 08:18:56 · answer #4 · answered by mzJakes 7 · 3 0

Your question happens to be one of the major sticking points with the christian religion. Outside the bible there is no historical proof of the existence of jesus. Christian will deny this & quote a laundry list of forgery's & vague references. But the answer is none.

2007-12-11 09:06:30 · answer #5 · answered by Orestes 4 · 1 1

none of his real contemporaries.
the talmud talks about "that man" but probably in tracts that were written after the time and so it's not sure if they meant a real figure or the one who was becoming famous in folklore etc.
many history books were changed and reducted to include him, as the winner dictates history.

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dont forget josephus wrote 40 years later

2007-12-11 10:02:44 · answer #6 · answered by joe the man 7 · 1 1

Tacitus, and Josephus. It is true that part of the material in Josephus that played him up as savior of the world, was added later. The part that can be accurately attributed to Josephus just talks of Jesus as a man.

2007-12-11 08:24:21 · answer #7 · answered by ? 6 · 1 2

The historians Josephus (Antiquities) and Tacitus (Annals) mentioned Jesus.

2007-12-11 08:18:10 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The only one I know of is what was recorded by Josephus.

2007-12-11 10:30:33 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Yes, the Roman historian Josephus.

2007-12-11 08:16:50 · answer #10 · answered by Larry62 5 · 0 3

I don't know of any historical references to Jesus that were written at the time he was supposed to have lived...

2007-12-11 08:18:24 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

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